Founding fathers would now be considered terrorists

[Thebluecanary Profile]

For the quotes and the spirit behind the original post:

Otherwise, wakey-wakey folks. If you haven't been hassled by the cops for attending a protest, you are lucky, not the rule. I've been maced, shoved, spit on,threatened. I was once hustled onto a bus with no Miranda warning with about 70 other people and had a number written on my arm with black marker. They gave us no idea where we were being taken, never said we were being arrested, just hustled us on, kept us there for several hours and let us go once the press and the swells were gone. Our crime? Standing on a public sidewalk (my bad, I guess I didn't know it wasn't the designated "free speech zone") holding signs and singing. And then they crowed on the news later about how barely any protesters showed up. I suppose if one of us had had fucking bubbles, we'd have been charged with assault. And this was waaaay before every kid had a cell phone at all, much less with video.

I got out there, back then, and banged my head against that wall trying to make a difference. Now I sit here in my quiet house listening to the birds sing outside and wait for whatever happens to happen, because the majority of my country is so numbed by bread and circuses that they just don't give enough of a shit to raise the numbers it would take to stop this snowballing NWO madness. They know just how bad they can let it get to keep people complacent while still getting their agenda across. They know that fear will make John Q. Public roll over his freedom inch by inch and they are masters of fear. And the bad thing about those great quoted visionaries, they're all DEAD and no one has stepped up to take their place.

[Hackjames Profile]

For the quotes and the spirit behind the original post:

Otherwise, wakey-wakey folks. If you haven't been hassled by the cops for attending a protest, you are lucky, not the rule. I've been maced, shoved, spit on,threatened. I was once hustled onto a bus with no Miranda warning with about 70 other people and had a number written on my arm with black marker. They gave us no idea where we were being taken, never said we were being arrested, just hustled us on, kept us there for several hours and let us go once the press and the swells were gone. Our crime? Standing on a public sidewalk (my bad, I guess I didn't know it wasn't the designated "free speech zone") holding signs and singing. And then they crowed on the news later about how barely any protesters showed up. I suppose if one of us had had fucking bubbles, we'd have been charged with assault. And this was waaaay before every kid had a cell phone at all, much less with video.

I got out there, back then, and banged my head against that wall trying to make a difference. Now I sit here in my quiet house listening to the birds sing outside and wait for whatever happens to happen, because the majority of my country is so numbed by bread and circuses that they just don't give enough of a shit to raise the numbers it would take to stop this snowballing NWO madness. They know just how bad they can let it get to keep people complacent while still getting their agenda across. They know that fear will make John Q. Public roll over his freedom inch by inch and they are masters of fear. And the bad thing about those great quoted visionaries, they're all DEAD and no one has stepped up to take their place.

That's a bit fatalistic. For one thing, there are MANY people you could say have "stepped up" following the deaths of some english men a few hundred years ago. They're good quotes, but they're just words, and furthermore they're just common sense expressed in old english. These men were not gods, which was/is kind of the point.

Regardless, these are not moral people (the ones who are currently running the sideshow), but they're not "the masters of fear", if anything they've managed disinformation and misguided many, but that doesn't equate them to dread-lords or anything. They are generally old, ugly (often inbred) men. If you know who you are and what is right you can accept the bad aspects of life and the potential for negative things to happen while still not being afraid.

[Lapislazuli Profile]

Let me point out to you all one question....I know a person who clearly say's on the forum "In order to save the planet kill George bush"....And he's still around, and he hasn't been question by police.

I've said quite a few anti-government statements on this forum, and not once have I been approached by by police or questioned. I've been in the middle of protests on the streets and disrupting the public, and I haven't brutally attacked by police. Most of the protest was peaceful, and the police kept us safe.

And funnily enough I'm not locked up in a prison and classed as a terrorist because I have done all these things. Heck I can go on the street right now today and call the president a wanker, and I wouldn't be dragged away by police.

Trust me I know how the police work, and I know what tools they use to track down people. They could very easily track me down in a second and put me away for years without anyone knowing. And yet I am still here.

And I see people on here which the government would class as "Terrorists" freely posting on this forum, and also "ATS", "Godlike productions", and youtube. And they aren't in prison.

I'm sorry, but I don't fucking believe that bullshit. If that was real, I would see a fair few people from here locked away, and I would see alot of my friends locked away as well.

I think its time people start thinking with their own brains, have a real good look around them, and start looking at things with their own eye's rather than believe what is right in front of them on a computer screen. Heck its probably best not to trust your own eye's sometimes because the mind can play tricks on you.

What do you think the mind does when you fall asleep???? Where do dreams come from??? That's a different topic all together.

LOL, the majority of people, even cops say: "In order to save the planet kill George bush" and they're all still around and haven't been questioned either.

You speak about forum members and your friends and all others that you await to be arrested. Your words sound almost sad, you seem almost disappointed that they're still around. Is it this fear of your government that made you a slave?
Could this be now the liberation from your fear? You see, your buddies are still here, so don't fear to have a voice too.
Now form both hands to a triangle in front of you, focus it with your third eye, turn to east forming a due guard and say it loud before you: "In order to save the planet kill George bush"
It will set you free!

That wasn't a very good rebuttal. For instance, I didn't notice any "sadness" or "disappointment" when he mentioned his friends and family not being in jail. I'd be curious to know why you got that impression, especially since it seems to have let you to the conclusion that he fears his government and is, in fact, a slave.

On the other hand, just because someone hasn't personally been wrongfully assaulted by police doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, or that it isn't a problem whenever it happens. I don't think that was his point, though I shouldn't speak for him.

Just because someone suggests something that you don't agree with, it doesn't mean that they're automatically an agent of some sinister power, or totally ignorant of the subject. Talk to people and judge them by the reasons they give for their position, not the position itself.

R U gods' mom?