FREE Energy... Is it all a scam?

Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:20 pm » by **Mushroom**

future7 wrote:If you are interested in Free Energy, watch my energy Doco's.

http://www.disclose.tv/Future7/?ref=Future7

Theres alot of vids here and it may take me some time to watch them.
Thanks Future7... Much appreciated.

Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:26 pm » by **Mushroom**

Sorry for the thread resurrection.. just a couple of updates.

The Aussie company 'Lutec' turned out to be a scam.. The link I provided earlier in the thread no longer works and when you search on google you just get scam reports.

Lowsix's link http://www.cheniere.org/ is still up and running though.. but it is basic html which hasn't been updated for 12 years.

Soooo.. Is it all a scam?

Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:38 pm » by **Freeman2011**

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Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:49 pm » by **Oreocannon**

But energy does exist, so if you harness solar energy, thats pretty much free, or water falling....or even radio waves, and turn them into energy...no matter how little, then use a magnet motor to amplify 300% then you will get a pretty good energy out of nothing pretty much. Seems a lot better then paying for electricity.

Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:53 pm » by **Freeman2011**

This is an interesting question to look at - because everyone wants 'Free Energy', so that we would not have to pay our electricity and gas bills each month, so that we could be self-sufficient instead of dependent on the big corporations generating/producing the electricity and extracting the gas from the earth who are very likely overcharging us for it so they can make lots of profit. Also because of 'profit' as in 'earning money' to become 'rich' and 'survive' in this reality - the big corporations tend to search for the cheapest, easiest ways to produce and distribute energy, which are not necessarily what is best for the earth.

When you browse the internet on subjects like 'free energy generator', you come across many tutorials and testimony's in youtube-video's and on websites that claim to have found 'the solution' by using for example magnetics. You'll then have to buy the 'manual' with the 'plans' to build this device yourself so that you can enjoy free energy - though together with all of these 'promotions' and 'special offers' and 'inventions', there is also a lot of video's and websites that expose these 'inventions' as scams and hoaxes.

So this leaves one to wonder 'who can I trust in this?' and 'why doesn't anyone in this whole world seem to be sincere, honest and truthful?' - everyone seems to be very willing to misguide, misdirect and mislead others to make money/profit. It seems that even the major corporations that provide the products that we need for our basic living/survival can often not be trusted. And even the people in our governments and major institutes that are supposed to be here to take care of our society, which is us, tend to get exposed as liars and cheaters - and there is an inherent feeling of distrust in almost every one towards each other, because we know that human beings are very capable of lying, cheating and misrepresentation to fulfill their personal desire for power/money (=survival).

So then, what about this notion of 'free energy' as some generator that can produce energy 'out of nothing'/'on itself', as what we're all looking for? Why do we want this so much? - obviously because energy as how it is being presented/produced/distributed at the moment, costs money.
And we accept this as 'normal' because for some reason we seem to believe that the earth requires money to give us it's resources for us to produce and use energy - we seem to have this attitude of believing that it is a 'rule of nature' that we need to pay money to get energy, as what the earth provides for us.

When that is in fact not true - because when you look at this point, than you can see that the ones who are charging money for energy is actually human beings - it is people who built a company that uses the earth's resources to produce energy, who decided to monopolize the earth and to pretend as if it is their property and as if, because they came up with some invention/idea to extract oil, coals or gas from the earth, they now have the 'right' to earn money from this 'invention' or 'company' and to charge every person on this planet who uses this energy/resource - so they can become extremely rich while the rest of humanity will have to become/stay poor because they now have to pay for what the earth actually provides for all of us freely.

It isn't only like this with energy, but with every invention that can make life more comfortable for human beings that people come up with - it is immediately 'patented', individualized, commercialized and capitalized so that a very few can make lots of money/profit from this, and all other people who use this 'invention' to be able to live/survive in this human society/world have to pay for it, they have to work day in and day out just be able to use this tool/product that makes life 'liveable' for us on this planet - when really it should be here for free.

Why? - because Life was given to us for free, we were born here on this planet for free, we may breathe for free, we may think and experience and express ourselves for free. So our expression in this world should also remain for free - that means that if you come up with a 'solution' or an 'invention' that can make life for all beings more pleasant and comfortable, wherein you make use of the resources that the earth provides for us freely, your invention/solution should be of the earth as well because you yourself are of the earth as every other living being that is here.

The whole idea/design of 'making profit' from the earth and from each other as all that is here - is a human invention, wherein the Capitalist System as what we are all living in today is the manifested expression of the greed and desire for power as a personal, selfish, individual experience that disregards all life and that is the seed of abuse in this world.

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:00 pm » by **Oreocannon**

you forget one thing freeman. No one owes you anything. It is your responsibility and choice to build yourself a solar panel etc.
If someone is too lazy to build one, then he should continue to pay the nwo.
Just like we made a choice to not drink aspartame and fluoride, so we can make a choice to read some blueprints and learn some basic tech terms and spend 500$ on solar panel and magnet motor materials.
We have posted more then enough free links and books who dont ask for your money.
Solar panel works doesnt it? Magnet motor works for producing more energy out of little doesnt it? 2+2 = 4
solar penl + magnet motor = a lot of energy out of a tiny solar panel.....for free.

Sure you invest money and time to make it, it will be hard...but its your choice.
If you dont want and you think its too hard.....fine
ill do it.

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:01 pm » by **Oreocannon**

i wasnt trying to poke at you. i was referring to people who want everything done for themselves.
So if you want free energy for free, you gotta make it yourself.

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:08 pm » by **Freeman2011**

Oreocannon wrote:you forget one thing freeman. No one owes you anything. It is your responsibility and choice to build yourself a solar panel etc.
If someone is too lazy to build one, then he should continue to pay the nwo.
Just like we made a choice to not drink aspartame and fluoride, so we can make a choice to read some blueprints and learn some basic tech terms and spend 500$ on solar panel and magnet motor materials.
We have posted more then enough free links and books who dont ask for your money.
Solar panel works doesnt it? Magnet motor works for producing more energy out of little doesnt it? 2+2 = 4
solar penl + magnet motor = a lot of energy out of a tiny solar panel.....for free.

Sure you invest money and time to make it, it will be hard...but its your choice.
If you dont want and you think its too hard.....fine
ill do it.

Hi sorry you have not read it correctly, The point is if money did not exist you could have energy for free if you was willing to help out in some way, Sure there will always be lazy people who would not want to contribute and they are the ones who would need to build it themselves :cheers:

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:12 pm » by **Freeman2011**

Oreocannon wrote:i wasnt trying to poke at you. i was referring to people who want everything done for themselves.
So if you want free energy for free, you gotta make it yourself.

I agree with you 100% there :flop:

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:15 pm » by **Oreocannon**

for real freeman, i think a solar panel plus a magnet motor would be perfect for every household.
the budget would probably be 500$ which is nothing for everyone working as a cleaner.
and the thing would generate a lot of juice for free.