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PostFri Dec 06, 2013 10:52 pm » by Malogg


A.Blackman ~ A HERO OF PURE VALOR NOT A FKN CRIMINAL. . . :bang;

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His crime quoting hamlet while murdering a man in Afghanistan

Do you think this is right? :!: :?: :!:

Many of my friends former Army some now dead from mentally losing the plot from Afghanistan were in the WAR zone where all feelings of hate is only fired up to the hilt within while dealing with the Taliban

A load of m8s served in the Iraq war and northern Ireland some of which have lost their sanity, complete changed characters, if you knew them before their stint for Queen and country you would think they are total different people, really fkn sad to see

Some of the stories Ima heard of so called friendly fire were understandable due to losing it

What MP's and we do not realise is that you lose all self awareness when faced with WAR

Right and wrong is well out the window leaving insanity to take over

FFS ima got a m8 that is called MAD **** because he loses it with a drink and whatever getting flash backs thinking he is still in the tank loading it up to blow f@ckers to bits, the tank he was in was hit by a bazooka they believe he was lucky to escape with his life


Many others Ima know have battered their nearest and dearest due to been f@cked up
Others turned to drink and drugs

RIP the ones that have taken their own lives since

ALEX BLACKMAN JAILED WHILE LEE RIGBY'S KILLERS HAVE EVADED PRISON SENTENCING AS TO DATE

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PostFri Dec 06, 2013 11:28 pm » by Malogg


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WTF was Alex employed to do eh stack shelves ?

FFS this is BOLLOX the judges should be sacked



Royal Marine Sergeant Alexander Blackman jailed for ten years for executing injured Taliban insurgent

Two other comrades, known only as Marine B and Marine C, were acquitted of murder

An experienced Royal Marine filmed executing an injured Taliban insurgent in cold blood has been given a ten year minimum jail sentence.

Sergeant Alexander Blackman, 39, whose name was made public for the first time yesterday following a ruling by judges at the High Court in London, was convicted last month of murdering the Afghan national in Helmand Province in September 2011.

Two other comrades, known only as Marine B and Marine C, were acquitted of murder by the court martial board in Bulford, Wiltshire.

The killing happened five months into an arduous six-month tour of Helmand province in 2011, known as Operation Herrick 14.

Blackman shot the Afghan, who had been seriously injured in an attack by an Apache helicopter, in the chest at close range with a 9mm pistol before quoting a phrase from Shakespeare as the man convulsed and died in front of him.

"There you are. Shuffle off this mortal coil, you c***. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us," Blackman told him.

Blackman then turned to comrades and said: "Obviously this doesn't go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention."

The execution was filmed by a camera mounted on the helmet of Marine B.

Marines B and C were alleged to have been "party to the killing" and "encouraged and assisted" Marine A in committing the murder but they were cleared.

Blackman was given a life sentence with the minimum term decided by the seven-man court martial board made up of senior non-commissioned officers and officers, and Judge Advocate General Jeff Blackett.

During his evidence at the court martial, Blackman, who denied murder, admitted he fired his gun out of anger but insisted the insurgent was already dead.

Blackman explained to the court martial why he fired: "Stupid, lack of self-control, momentary lapse in my judgment.

"I thought about it over the last year as we get towards these proceedings but I cannot give any other reason than to say that it was poor judgment and lack of self-control. I thought he was dead."

He blamed "foolish bravado" for quoting Shakespeare at the dying man and said it was something "I am not proud of".

Blackman, who completed tours of Iraq, Afghanistan and Northern Ireland during his military career, had 15 years experience in the Royal Marines.

He was in charge of Command Post Omar in Helmand during the tour and was considered a safe pair of hands by his superiors.

At 6ft 3in, he was a physically imposing Marine who always led from the front and was an expert in heavy weapons, including machine guns.

Blackman was credited with building good relations with the local population.

His role in Afghanistan also included taking part in shuras - meetings with community leaders and elders.

Prior to a video of the murder coming to light, Blackman was being considered for promotion to colour sergeant.

The judge told Blackman, who stood to attention to hear the sentence, that he had disgraced the name of the British armed services and had put troops' lives at risk by his actions.

"This was not an action taken in the heat of battle or immediately after you had been engaged in a firefight," the judge said.

"Nor were you under any immediate threat - the video footage shows that you were in complete control of yourself, standing around for several minutes and not apparently worried that you might be at risk of attack by other insurgents.

"You treated that Afghan man with contempt and murdered him in cold blood. By doing so you have betrayed your corps and all British service personnel who have served in Afghanistan, and you have tarnished their reputation.

"In one moment you undermined much of the good work done day in day out by British forces and potentially increased the risk of revenge attacks against your fellow service personnel.

"You have failed to demonstrate the self-discipline and restraint that is required of service personnel on operations, and which sets British troops apart from the enemy they fight."

The judge said: "Of course sitting in a courtroom in middle England is a far cry from the brutality of the conflict in Afghanistan, but you have been judged here by the board made up of service personnel who understand operational service because they too have experienced it.

"Many people have expressed views on your sentence in the media demanding a severe punishment on one hand and leniency on the other.

"However, you are not being tried by the media or by those who express themselves vociferously.

"This offence is unique and unprecedented in recent history. You were in a tough operational environment where you were legally entitled to use lethal force against the enemy.

"Whilst carrying out your duty, you came across a very seriously wounded enemy combatant. You were obliged to care for him but instead you executed him.

"That is a wholly different matter from the cases of murder in the UK normally considered by the civilian courts but we are still required by law to apply the same law which those courts are required to apply.

"The victim was particularly vulnerable because he was seriously wounded and lying helpless and in obvious pain while you considered what to do with him.

"Your actions have put at risk the lives of other British service personnel. You have provided ammunition to the terrorists whose propaganda portrays the British presence in Afghanistan as part of a war on Islam in which civilians are arbitrarily killed.

"That ammunition will no doubt be used in their programme of radicalisation. That could seriously undermine the reputation of British forces and ultimately the mission in Afghanistan.

"As I have already said, committing this sort of act could well provoke the enemy to act more brutally towards British troops in retribution or reprisal.

"You were in charge of the patrol and it was incumbent upon you to set the standards. Long before you shot the insurgent you should as a senior non-commissioned officer have shown better leadership to young and less experienced men.

"In fact you abused your position of trust by involving the other junior and subordinate members of your patrol in covering up what you had done and lying on your behalf."

Speaking through his solicitor Issy Hogg, Blackman said he was "devastated" by the sentence.

The statement read: "Sgt Blackman and his wife are devastated by the life sentence imposed upon him together with the order than he serve a minimum of 10 years before he is eligible for parole.

"Furthermore, he has been dismissed, with disgrace, from the Royal Marines, with whom he has served proudly for 15 years.

"He is very sorry for any damage caused to the Royal Marines.

"Finally, Sgt Blackman thanks the public for the support shown to him and his wife."

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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 3:21 am » by Middleman


You must be joking Mallog. Even in war, there are rules, not many rules, but executing prisoners is one of them.

Think about this from the perspective of an Afghan. Put yourself in his shoes. If the foreign troops here to "liberate" you from the Taliban can just go around murdering people, how are they any better?

This shit happens all the time, but they were stupid or unlucky enough to document it, so this bloke goes down, and rightly fucking so.

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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 3:55 am » by Malogg


Middleman wrote:You must be joking Mallog. Even in war, there are rules, not many rules, but executing prisoners is one of them.

Think about this from the perspective of an Afghan. Put yourself in his shoes. If the foreign troops here to "liberate" you from the Taliban can just go around murdering people, how are they any better?

This shit happens all the time, but they were stupid or unlucky enough to document it, so this bloke goes down, and rightly fucking so.



BAWS 15 YEARS SERVICE THE DUDE WAS AS GOOD AS DEAD ANYWAY BY HIS FELLOW TROOPS ACCOUNT AND VIDEO EVIDENCE

Yeap he should have been thrown out the Army but FFS pedophiles that rape and murder children are lucky to serve 7 years inside max these days

WHAT LAW JUSTIFIES THAT? IS THAT YOUR LAW EH?


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5 YEARS TOPS HE SHOULD HAVE GOT BUT THE CREED MADE AN EXAMPLE OF ALEX~ FACT
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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 6:15 am » by Middleman


So how many murders should they each be allowed then? Do you get more free ones the longer you're there? How many rapes?

All of that stuff you said about service and post traumatic stress disorder are mitigating circumstances. They're reasons to knock a few years off his sentence, rather than reasons to find him not guilty.

If they didn't prosecute this guy, it would be a propaganda nightmare playing right into the hands of the Taliban.

For that matter, how would you feel if the situation was reversed, and a wounded Scottish bloke was on the wrong side of the bullet? If we caught the Talib who shot him, should he be charged, or do we treat that guy exactly the same as any other Taliban prisoner?
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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 6:27 am » by Thebluecanary


Ish. It's a slippery slope, taking people into a war zone, telling them "OK, kill those guys, but not THOSE guys, and only in certain ways, not other ways." Once you've put someone in a situation where they're expected to kill and kill again while surrounded by chaos and death…it's hard to expect them to follow all the rules. And even harder to just expect them to shake it off and go home and be normal when their time is up. This is a miserable war, and it's doing miserable things to people on both sides. I feel for this guy, as I have no idea what it's like to be in a war zone or how I'd respond if I were in one. They make examples out of soldiers like this in the US fairly frequently, and it always makes me sad on many levels.
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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 6:36 am » by Malogg


Middleman wrote:So how many murders should they each be allowed then? ((((Do you get more free ones the longer you're there?)))) < N/A How many rapes?

All of that stuff you said about service and post traumatic stress disorder are mitigating circumstances. They're reasons to knock a few years off his sentence, rather than reasons to find him not guilty.

If they didn't prosecute this guy, it would be a propaganda nightmare playing right into the hands of the Taliban.

For that matter, how would you feel if the situation was reversed, and a wounded Scottish bloke was on the wrong side of the bullet? If we caught the Talib who shot him, should he be charged, or do we treat that guy exactly the same as any other Taliban prisoner?


Did you not read?

Yeap he should have been thrown out the Army but FFS pedophiles that rape and murder children are lucky to serve 7 years inside max these days

5 YEARS TOPS HE SHOULD HAVE GOT BUT THE CREED MADE AN EXAMPLE OF ALEX~ FACT


That is fair enough under the surcumstances

WHERE DOES IT SAY HE RAPED ANYONE?

FALSE ALLEGATIONS EH

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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 6:53 am » by Middleman


It's easy to get caught up in the emotion of it when it's a guy you relate to...but that is no way to set a policy.

So seriously, are you saying we should just stop taking prisoners? Are you ok with the other team doing the same?

There is more than the fate of one man at stake here.

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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 6:54 am » by Malogg


Thebluecanary wrote:Ish. It's a slippery slope, taking people into a war zone, telling them "OK, kill those guys, but not THOSE guys, and only in certain ways, not other ways." Once you've put someone in a situation where they're expected to kill and kill again while surrounded by chaos and death…it's hard to expect them to follow all the rules. And even harder to just expect them to shake it off and go home and be normal when their time is up. This is a miserable war, and it's doing miserable things to people on both sides. I feel for this guy, as I have no idea what it's like to be in a war zone or how I'd respond if I were in one. They make examples out of soldiers like this in the US fairly frequently, and it always makes me sad on many levels.


Yeap Ima agree it is fkn sad on so many levels, nae saying Alex should get off scott free Ima saying they made an example of him and never took into account the factor of being in a WAR zone where Alex and his Comrade's already seen plenty of death that day maybe even including fellow Comrade's

To me these judges have no right whatsoever to deal with Military LAW it is well out their understanding and jurisdiction to even begin to imagine what a WAR zone even looks like and yeap you can bet all the peace anti war folks are gonna say haha justice hhmm well Ima say if it was not for folk like Alexander we would have been invaded long ago.

Our troops do an outstanding job but many do lose the plot and should have been dealt with by the Army not a fkn mickey mouse court that has no clue whatsoever.



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PostSat Dec 07, 2013 7:04 am » by Malogg


Middleman wrote:It's easy to get caught up in the emotion of it when it's a guy you relate to...but that is no way to set a policy.

So seriously, are you saying we should just stop taking prisoners? Are you ok with the other team doing the same?

There is more than the fate of one man at stake here.


An ole saying ~ fly with the crows get shot with the crows or run with the wolves get shot with the wolves. . .
He was a trained killer it is a switch that they are taught to switch on once in the WAR zone, there to do a fkn job and killing is his job in WAR

The man was half dead already and by the account of what the troops were saying they all were guilty because they should have arrested Alex if they at the time believed he broke the rules which they never

Our troops are not fkn criminals they have been trained to murder for Queen and country Ima tell you it is folk like you that would not last long in a real fkn WAR with that attitude you would allow your troops to be blown up or shot at because who is to say the man was not concealing a grenade or hand gun?

Yes he should have lost his job and been jailed but not for that fkn length of time and certainly his pension should not come into account, not after 15 years service with no treason committed

But Ima argue till the end of days over hell why not us have a war over it lol see it is how WARS start just folk not considering the bigger picture or taking any morale account from both sides of the field nah it is BS they made an example out of Alex, that is a FACT.
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