Oliver Stone and whatever HIS rap Is...

[Harbin Profile]

Could Harbin be a shill....anything to cast doubt on those exposing and bringing light to the 'psychopathic' globalist agenda. And... you can see Oliver Stone is doing just that.

The 'globalist psychopaths' have most all the power and money to fund anything to suit their agenda and since they have manufactured (OMG I wish more people could see through this fraud) an economy where so many have NO money and can't feed their family or themselves... I do hear it is good money...

But this is just another way that we as humanity are selling ourselves out for a 'buck'. And the psychopaths love that too!

I could be wrong...but....

No hard feelings cynuru. I'm personally suspicious of a Hollywood establishment figure such as Stone, revealing new historical 'facts' to spoon-feed to anyone who cares to look. It was not a well constructed OP, maybe I'll look at the content of Stones latest a bit more, to form a better assessment, or reinforce the one I already have. Flattered that you choose me to call out first.

[Noentry Profile]

Paranoia is easy to come by. Not so easy to let go off.
He's a shill.
She's a shill.
They are shill's.

So what. If they are wrong it will be shown.
A lie is an easy thing to break, the truth is consistent and is easy to defend..

Even if I know they are shills what exactly can I do about it?
It is easy to accuse anyone who in my mind does not agree with me, it is very easy and simplistic to think the whole world is like you. A man is an island. it has been said.

You see it your way. I will see it my way. They will see it theirs.
Harbin is as much a shill as Oliver Stone. Which is Zero, noway in a million years.

In fact I can say with confidence no one who has posted so far is a shill.

We are all different we see the world in our own perspective. It does not make anyone a shill because they think differently.

A shill must have an allegiance to a company and preset agenda that may not be their own.
To post for a cause that is close to your heart what ever it is is not actually shilling. It is a choice.

No one in this post fits that description in my opinion.

So enough with the misguided and misdirected accusations, they are unfounded.

@cynuru
Harbin fights for what he believes, You missed the target this time, ,
I like people who are willing to speak their mind
I like them better if they can do it in a civilized and Curtice manner.

you seem perceptive, so dont give up because no one is perfect, we all get it wrong from time to time.

[cynuru Profile]

Hard to tell exactly just what Harbin is.

Welcome, btw. [/quote] Cute. Thank you for the Welcome...

Wow...I really stepped into it here? Oops...sorry. Actually, very cool, I appreciate all the comments below.

I didn't realize there was seniority...really? oops again.

I am generally going answer most of the comments... I know long post!

Sorry Harbin, I just see so much 'attack' on what to me seems like 'individuals' trying to expose the ugly of society and our history, here, for a possibly more 'balanced' side of our history.

But, I would be open to the idea that there is missing or overlooked material, and of course, as humans we tend to have a certain blind side of personal perceptions of what really happened. So, on second thought Harbin...I understand your skepticism. I liked his JFK movie, he got a lot of media flack before it came out to what I understand try to censor it. But, I am actually pretty cynical.

I think there is just so much mainstream propaganda put out, that having a renown director willing to step up and expose our government's darker underbelly... I do applause that. To me, too many people think the government is like our 'father or mother' ...and 'love's us? Now making our decisions for us in almost every avenue of our lives... the Nanny State?

This is kind of my mindset right now:
I think (like Larken Rose) we all believe in the 'religion of government'. We give our power and responsibility over to it, while it eventually plunders us. Yet 'government' does not exist, only people. It kills, steals, and destroys in our name. And, our belief in Authority, 'someone' to reign over with power over us...will always lead to loss of freedom or death if we 'disobey'. There is no volunteerism or liberty in this, and will always lead to tyranny.

As far as the comment on speaking out 'against' Israel, well, in my research I would say 'Zionism' has a very heavy hand in world affairs, but also the Vatican and Jesuit Army (just as much or more so). Organized religion is a 'control' too. The Vatican, lurks and has been shielded for centuries...yet what kind of power does it truly wield? Could they be in cahoots?

Ultimately, I believe the 'psychopathic predators' have risen to the top in almost all organizations... if you can stomach the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, I see the whole plan unfolding in front of us. (I am not professing that Zionists are the 'devout and common Jewish' person, many protest against the 'Zionists' and their flag. From my research.)

I think there is a small group of 'psychopaths, reptilians, demons' doesn't matter what you call them behind the matrix playing chess with the rest of us as fodder. We are being duped, divided and conquered, and our creativity and humanity are being used against us.

They have no empathy, no conscience, and NO LOYALTY TO ANYONE OR ANYTHING. The common thread to evil in the world, even throughout history... the perfect HUMAN predator, manipulators, and shapeshifters, the vampire that feeds off of us ( a resource), the 5% and growing (1 in 25) of the worlds population, probably the same 5% who want to delete the other 95% of us?

Just my theory of now... of trying to make sense of so much horror throughout history. The cause... the why?
I appreciate any comments... what do you think? Do I sound paranoid too?

[cynuru Profile]

[/quote]
No hard feelings cynuru. I'm personally suspicious of a Hollywood establishment figure such as Stone, revealing new historical 'facts' to spoon-feed to anyone who cares to look. It was not a well constructed OP, maybe I'll look at the content of Stones latest a bit more, to form a better assessment, or reinforce the one I already have. Flattered that you choose me to call out first. [/quote] Harbin

Geez Harbin, if only I would have looked at your Avatar....

Took me a long time to learn about Kubrick! Now, to me a genius! and genius movies when you really see them, like Dr. Strangelove.

Actually, I am a shill.... just trying to throw people off.

[matthewdowd Profile]

Oliver Stone is CIA.
www.matthewdowd.com

[cynuru Profile]

I thought Oliver was NSA, no wait a minute, uhh, no FBI... wait ummmm Black OPs...that's it, it has to be.

Actually the real truth I heard, he is a Reptilian Alien... yep that's it. I think I saw his eyes change once

haha gotcha!

We are all in so much trouble... so sad.

[cynuru Profile]

Oliver Stone is CIA.
http://www.matthewdowd.com

Actually the REAL truth I heard, Oliver is a Reptilian Alien... yep that's it. I think I saw his eyes change once

haha gotcha! just kidding!!


We, humanity, are all in so much trouble... so very sad.
And Jesus wept.

[cynuru Profile]

I look at different posts and I wonder how many that say negative things about Oliver Stone, as well as calling him a CIA agent have even watched all 10 episodes. (Not that some may be warranted.)

I research so much of what is going on 3-8 hours a day pretty regularly, and try to keep an open mind. I have a motto 'I try to make disillusionment my friend.' I often get a very heavy heart in all this, but we matter - all of us.

I have read many very informative books by authors and film makers that many people into alternative news are probably aware of on 9=11, Chemtrails, mind control, CIA MK ultra victims, haarp, big pharma, gmo's, flouride, eugenics, NDAA, and much more.. now the assault on having a 'gun'... almost unfathomable sometimes.

I personally, have had people just put down an author's or director's work, and haven't even read or watched it...just deny it's truth off hand. Won't even talk about it or regurgitate mainstream media. I find it interesting that many if they have reviewed it will pick one or two things, they think is wrong and just throw all the information out?

Humanity and our planet is in dire straits, and so many just want to cast doubt, put down or disregard people who really do seem to be trying to expose the 'dark criminals' of history, at least in their perspective. We all live in a different universe, really.

I often think of the 'pharisees and scribes' who accused Jesus of being Satan as he was casting out demons... 'Satan casting out Satan, a house divided against itself cannot stand'. I only use this as reasonable and wise analogy and not a religious statement.

Even, like the Oracle said in the Matrix, who was apart of the system, you just have to make up your own 'damn' mind... And she was not always right. The internet to me is the Oracle for all of us seeking truth. There are so many 'hero's' trying to expose the evil and do right. Have we have become just like the 'psychopathic elite' (as they are trying so hard to make us) in distrusting each other (divide and conquer) as much as they distrust us and their even their own.
Just thinking through my fingers. Hmmm.

[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

The fun fact here is that "Untold History" wasn't written by Oliver Stone alone.

It was written by him and Peter Kuznick. And i bet that Kuznick, as a historian, wrote and researched more themes than Stone for that particular series.

The author of Beyond the Laboratory: Scientists as Political Activists in 1930s America and coeditor of Rethinking Cold War Culture, Professor Kuznick is currently writing a book about scientists’ opposition to the Vietnam War. As director of American University’s award winning Nuclear Studies Institute, he takes students on an annual study abroad trip to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He spearheaded the Committee for a National Discussion of Nuclear History and Current Policy in response to the Smithsonian’s Enola Gay exhibit and co-founded the Nuclear Education Project. He writes often and lectures frequently about nuclear issues in general and the atomic bombings in particular. He has recently completed a historically based Hollywood screenplay and teaches the path-breaking course Oliver Stone’s America. He regularly provides commentary to the media on a broad range of subject and was selected Organization of American Historians Distinguished Lecturer, 2004-2007.

Degrees

PhD, Rutgers University
MA, Rutgers University
BA, Rutgers University

http://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/kuznick.cfm

Why nobody accused Kuznick to be a CIA asset?

[cynuru Profile]

http://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/kuznick.cfm

Why nobody accused Kuznick to be a CIA asset?

Hey, thank you! for the post and information Edgar.

I saw the interview here on DTV with both Stone and Kuznick on their creating of" The Untold History...." I thought it was very interesting. Like Stone said, he felt many people do not know very much about our history. I admit, I don't have much memory of our political history before Reagan? and was never really interested in it until 2006... sad I know. I have always been skeptical though.

My observation of Stone speaking out against the oppressive behavior of Obama, who from what I have researched on Obama, 'The Dreams of My 'REAL' Father', '2016', and other 'damning' info, some of course is hard to prove but gives evidence that Obama was a groomed CIA agent for the presidency, and was /is part of the Weather Underground. Also, Obama's grandfather was CIA, his mother possibly under a CIA handler as sex slave... so, if you call Stone CIA with all his calling out on Obama, that is truly like Satan casting out Satan... logic says Stone would be better off not saying anything.

But, PSYCHOPATHIC minds are in control and I suppose they could have a 'sick and septic' reason for using Stone, here, ... but, I have a hard time getting my mind around it though.