... Gaza Horror: .. Photo Gallery of Gaza Massacre by Israel

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 12:36 am » by Spock

And of course a Palestine ruled by Muslims - means absolutely no tolerance for any other belief system.

And if they kick out all other belief systems, they will kill each other until they are under one platform. FACT.

Not going to happen.

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 1:29 am » by Spock

I love ya Zaff, you're my favorite turd.

But what you just said proved the point.

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 1:48 am » by Illuminated

looks like egypt is acting in the same fashion as the idf :headscratch:
actually they're 'one up'n' the Israelis they are building a subterranian WALL :nwo:
maybe it has something to do with protecting their border, national security

Egypt plays hardball with Hamas over Gaza border wall

Rafah, Gaza Strip - Armoured vehicles from the Egyptian army guard the large cranes as they sink their tall drills into the ground. From a distance they resemble oil drills - but obviously they are not prospecting for oil along the gravelly Egypt-Gaza border.

Instead, they are seemingly digging a deep underground steel wall, whose purpose is to thwart the massive smuggling of anything from food, to petrol, cigarettes, sheep, fridges, laptops and weapons through the network of tunnels dug under the border.

If successful, this invisible barrier would change the balance of power in the area, and reshuffle the cards in the hands of Hamas, the radical Islamist movement ruling Gaza, and the region's other players.

Thus some officials in Hamas are already calling the structure the "wall of death."

For Egypt, it is a matter of sovereignty and "dignity."

Egyptian officials have so far only gone as far as confirming that their country is building an underground "engineering structure" along the border - but they have refused to give details.

As a result, speculation is rife and tension high along the border, where angry, stone-throwing Palestinians earlier this week clashed with Egyptian border guards - one of whom was fatally shot.

No one but those involved in planning and building the anti-smuggling structure know exactly how deep it will go. Some say as deep as 30 metres. Others say 20. There is also no confirmation that it will be made of solid steel which cannot be cut or melted.

Some locals in the divided border town of Rafah even fear another solution, one that would sound simpler from Egypt's point of view - namely, that pipes are being inserted deep into the ground, which have already penetrated through some of the tunnels causing their collapse.

They would then be filled with water from the nearby Mediterranean to flood them.

Others say they saw workers insert electrical cables into the pipes, with sensors to detect the tunnels.

Raja'a Abu Hilal, a 43-year-old tunnel owner on the Palestinian side of Rafah, is among those looking on with concern.

"In fact, we don't know exactly what kind of security operation the Egyptian forces are carrying out at the borderline," he said.

"But we are sure that this operation is carried out against the tunnels and that this movement would of course harm our business."

It costs between 60,000 and 80,000 US dollars and three months to build a smuggling tunnel. The total number of tunnels is not known.

Figures vary from some 400 to as many as 1,500. Rafah residents say that several dozen of them are used for smuggling rockets and other weapons. The rest are for other commodities.

The smuggling provides almost the only source of income for the internationally-isolated Hamas.

Its de-facto government in Gaza has levied taxes on all of the goods brought in through the tunnels.

Prices of the smuggled goods more than double making the short distance from the border in the south of the strip to Gaza City in the north, because the tunnel owner makes his profit, Hamas gets its share and then the shops in the city which sell them as well.

Analysts say the tunnels are Hamas' only lifeline. The movement has consolidated its hold on Gaza since it violently seized sole control of the strip in June 2007, by overpowering the security forces of President Mahmoud Abbas' rival, secular Fatah party.

For Egypt's President Hosny Mubarak, where the Muslim Brotherhood is the largest political opposition, having the Palestinian branch of the transnational Islamist movement run an entity on its border is seen as far from desirable.

When Hamas breached the border in January 2008 by blowing explosive holes, prompting hundreds of thousands of Gazans to flood into Egypt to stock up on goods, it was a blow to Cairo's prestige as an Arab superpower.

For days, until order was restored, it proved unable to control its own sovereign border.

Cairo, defending the work along the border against strongly pro- Palestinian Arab domestic and regional criticism, called the tunnels a "direct assault on Egypt's sovereignty."

"Helping the Palestinian brothers in the Gaza Strip, by all means, is a duty," Egyt's Minister of State for Legal Affairs Mufid Shehab told parliament this week - but not at the price of a violation of Egypt's international borders, national security, dignity and international pacts.

He was clearly referring to Cairo's relations with the US, from which it receives hundreds of millions of dollars in financial aid.

Washington, after last winter's Gaza war, held intense talks with Egypt on ways to end the weapons smuggling to Gaza.

If the border structure proves effective, analysts say, it may suffocate Hamas to the extent that it could return to the negotiating table "on its knees" and finally sign the Egyptian-mediated reconciliation agreement with Fatah.

That would then allow Palestinian elections to take place, which would end the West Bank/Gaza split. Ending Hamas' grip on Gaza would be a vital Egyptian interest.

Locals in Rafah, meanwhile, say they will just dig deeper. For them, they say, the tunnels are their subterranean lifeline.


Palestinian killing Palestinian

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 2:27 am » by Spock


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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 3:56 am » by Cryptillian

Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zechariah son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation . O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (Matt 23:32-37)

FYI...i am a cunt (it's better than being an asshole because when your a cunt you get to take a week off every 28 days)

FYI....i don't kill people and try to justify it by dehumanizing my victims

FYI....all this YHWH loving is giving me a headache...........any god who creates us all equal and then picks a favorite race....(as if the Jews were an actual race instead of a shitmix of ex-Egyptian laborers)...is petty and posses none of the attributes that i would label as divine

@proto..... Canada would be happy to take a large number of jewish refugees from the stolen lands........as long as it means that we will finally have some peace around here.

for my money i support the Palestinians 100%.....and you can take that to the bank bitches
Yahweh is the moon .....setting on a fallen sun

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 5:07 am » by Spock

Israel - will remain Israel, under jewish authority.

And Crypt - I understand you wanting to pick a side, but really, Sharia Law? You want that for Canada? Is that okay for Israel? Is that okay for any place?

And even not as fundamentalist as Sharia - just a good ole' Saudi Arabian lifestyle. That's some backward shit right there.

My money is 100% for Israel. They came back to their homeland, and made it a democracy.

If the native Americans rose up and came from every point of the globe to reclaim America - the same people screaming "burn the jews" would be screaming GO REDSKINS!

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 5:09 am » by Proto

actually you know, matthew is a book from the new testament , it's not part of
the hebrew bible and have no part in Jewish tradition or fate ,so ...

i appreciate your generous offer, but i was born in israel, as did my parents and
all my family, and i probably going to die here as well, but thanks for the offer again .

you can moan and bitch and be a cunt an accuse israel of stealing lands and
and all the rest of the BS but israel is still here and it's not going anywhere .

hate and accusations wont solve anything , and you know that (at least i hope you do).

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 5:16 am » by Spock

Actually what Crypt quoted was concerning the fall of Jerusalem out of Jewish hands. The rant was against the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin that ran the temple. So yet another prophecy that was fulfilled. Thanks for the reminder. A great one. One that took place a thousand years before the prophecy concerning the jews return happened.

Good stuff. Nastrodomaus and Edgar Cayce don't have shit on biblical prophecy.

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 5:21 am » by Proto

thanks for the clarification spock :flop:

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PostSun Jan 17, 2010 12:25 pm » by Astrodicted

Thx for the answer Spock ....Anythin 2 say bout Hamas recognizing an Israeli state?Anything 2 say bout the fact that Israel broke that treaty EACH time?Like they do all the time

And even not as fundamentalist as Sharia - just a good ole' Saudi Arabian lifestyle. That's some backward shit right there.

Nice 1.I think yr forgetting what americans did 2 black people some decades ago.Give them time 2 evolve....you cant blame 1.5billion muslim for the stupidity of/by some tribes

Keep pretending i dont excist,still doesnt change the facts tho :D


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