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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:46 am 
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Greetings first. Peace be with you.

For over 30 years I am in science, philosophy and christian theology. As a priest I work among ordinary people. I have experienced almost all possible states of humanity: birth, death, talents, vangence, boredom, exitement, silence, possesion, rage, numbness, sobriety, love, Dr.-know-it-all-people, deceivers, honesty etc. etc. etc.

I love what I am doing and have always loved. The more I grow older the more I keep silent and listen. Listening is a very hard job by the way....

I like your page.Sometimes it is funny watching peoples diverse insights and opinions. Most of them are gentle and fine informations. Some are simply simple minded. Some are rassist and antisemitic. Maybe a lack of education. Those people seem to forget that every act of submissive thinking is simply stupid. Maybe a lack of education. (By the way, isn't it funny how they destroy our western - I live in Germany - educational system?)

Now that I have come to my climax of life - maybe I am given a couple more years - I have become not only silent but live an inner kind of sobriety of my mind thus following my older colleage Okkham: the simpler the better. We humans tend to exaggerate in all directions, mostly in thoughts and systems our thoughts are getting fitted in.

For many years I studied what is called Gnosis. Peolpe wanted to know. They went steps and kept on learning and practizing what they found would be important to them. They separated from each other and looked for being destinctive. Once somebody went deep into "what our world is keeping together" (Faust from J. W. Goethe) that person will experience both the (scientific) way of destinction as well as the way of integration (which is a way of spiritual and mystic view).

I say this in order to explain my general insight: human mind is always looking for something or somewhat, our brain breaks all approaches down to fitting pieces of insight. All our ontological being means being in, with and under borders as well as experiences of transcendence thus finding some degrees of what we call freedom.

What I found is this: what we call love goes far beyond any knowledge and any gnosis. I am not about apologizing any christian approach or theology. It goes deeper. I speak of my years of experiencing people and human being. You never believe what people are defending and believing, and most important of all, most beliefs are fitting to avoid love. All ancient and contemporary gnostic beliefs lack the mind of integration and therefore - love.

Conspiration theories, UFO case, angel, systems of orders and signs and symbols - god, what astonishing intelligences do people force to get insights and - gnosis. Some letters in New Testament deal with the matter, and I experience they are somehow right: it is love which is important, love prior to knowledge (and nobody calls me now a teacher of numbness!).

So what do I do with the intelligent humans with their theories and senses to diversion and seperation, and I experience many? I listen. I see the borders of human being. At least I love as much as I can. Mostly: I listen and say nothing.

And with the numb and simple minded and so called superficial and retarded ones? I listen. I see the borders of human being. At least I love as much as I can. Its all the same. I listen and love as I can.

So, you human beings with your nice page, report what you find and go ahead even with your theories and insights. I stay sober. It all will be revealed at the right time and the right space. Go ahead and speculate as often as you will - all that is human. But I will not forget human nature, it`s borders, bounderies and also transcendental states. I will love prior to know. This St. Paul's heritage I can't give up as well as I can`t miss the heritage of good knowledge and education.

So I stay calm. I find it human to state: we will all see nevertheless this being not sure.

I would like to read some nice posts.

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We're only human, we get so wrapped up in the excitement of other things we fail to sometimes see what is staring us in the face..

Humanity is a fascinating thing we all take for granted, to stop and think about it all boggkles the mind.. The fact that at any one second on the planet there are these multitudes of emotions and expressions being given off..

Makes me feel warm inside.. well.. the pleasant emotions and expressions do anyhow!


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love prior to knowledge.that is a most beautiful insight.
thank you for your words
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good post :flop:

welcome to DTV .

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I find it hard to take this from someone who believes sexuality is a choice...or at least is part of a religion that deems sexuality as a choice.

I mean if love is what you preach then choice doesnt necessarily have any merit, as long as both individuals love one another....

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And with the numb and simple minded and so called superficial and retarded ones? I listen. I see the borders of human being. At least I love as much as I can. Its all the same. I listen and love as I can


Well friend, I listen to you. And I as well see your borders of a human being.

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I mean if love is what you preach then choice doesnt necessarily have any merit, as long as both individuals love one another....


You've never heard that love is a choice? Love can be hard work.

You're probably confusing love with lust.

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Excellent post. Very insightful. Thanks for putting it up.

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I mean if love is what you preach then choice doesnt necessarily have any merit, as long as both individuals love one another....


You've never heard that love is a choice? Love can be hard work.

You're probably confusing love with lust.


No Spock, Im certain of love...its you who are confusing love with lust....

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realorfake wrote:
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I mean if love is what you preach then choice doesnt necessarily have any merit, as long as both individuals love one another....


You've never heard that love is a choice? Love can be hard work.

You're probably confusing love with lust.


No Spock, Im certain of love...its you who are confusing love with lust....



Really? You took me saying, "love is a choice" as I am confusing love with lust?

Please enlighten me, I can't wait for this ray of brilliance!

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