grows wrote:I think those of you who say maybe Lucifer is good, God is bad, are missing the point. Lucifer is the intellect. When the intellect thinks it's the be all end all of human experience, it results in a pale reflection of human potential, and the illusion that things are otherwise.The intellect is a servant of life, Lucifer is a servant of God. When the intellect/ego begins to believe it is the dominant force of life, when the intellect begins to believe it is God, Lucifer's name becomes Satan. The mind becomes it's own enemy, delusionally believing "this is as good as it gets". And the Ego/mind will resist the idea something else is more divine, blameing everything and everyone for it's own problems. Satan will start wars to prove it's right. Satan will strike a woman to prove it's right. Satan will murder, lie, steal, etc. just to try and make it all come true. But it cannot come true, and Satan can only make things worse. What is the result of all the violence and harsh words? A lack of love, and a continuation of the problems (karma). The mind cannot fix karma. This is the whole point of Zen. When the mind is in silence, "Satan" no longer has control. Without the constaint linguistic assurances that the mind is dominant, Satan has no power to perpetuate this myth. When the mind is in silence, Lucifer once again takes his place as a servant of God, meaning the mind becomes a servant of life.
So, Satan the d-evil, is in fact, evil... but that doesn't mean he should be hated. The solution is to be humble without being pityful. To be proud, not of the self, but of all of God's creation, meaning, to cherish life and seek to help end the suffering caused by Lucifer's confusion.
holy shit... well put.
Beautifully and most accurately sums up the real sin of the 'fall'.
It was the search for knowledge...the placing of mind on a pedestal.
warløckmitbladderinfection wrote:blasphemous new gehenna inhabitant makes god sad...
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And for my hardline atheist friends out there, those who think a belief in God is foolishness, and worship is weak; I submit to you, that when the dragon and one third of his angels with him are cast to the earth, doing signs and wonders, appearing in their "space ships", you will be the first to bow down and worship the beast. Prepare yourselves. Love God, love truth, confess the Son.
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Think of the movie "Next" with Nicohlas Cage. God can see into infinity, so he saw every move of Satan and could counter it until victory was achieved.
Free will mean that you simply decide what side o human nature will you allow to stand out.What will free will mean if there is only one choice , absolutely nothing there has to be more than one choice in order for free will to exist. thus the purpose of creating Satan. Even if Cain was fathered by Satan god warned him to beware of sin, Why? Because though Cain was the child of Satan if he wanted to God would have excepted him, but, Cain made his choice, out of free will, though God knew his choice.
Last but not least If I would rather be wrong in worshiping God and nothing happens to me when I die, then Not believing in God/ hating God and ending up being wrong in that. So I'm perfectly fine with what I believe. Think of these movies where some kind of crisis is arising and some idiot tells them impossible, what happens to that Guy, well things don't go so well for him.
Last but not least if Satan was made to create music as worship this was one of his attribute, Right ? And music created to worship ? then if you are not listening music that worship God, Who are you worshiping ?
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