Gods kingdom is within
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:53 pm » by Solomankane
Ok .im not sure I understand this right. luke 17 verse 21 the kingdom of God is within you,
how many kingdoms are there ? Does everyone have a kingdom in them ?Also I thought in the christain religeon that the kingdom of God was the same thing as heaven .thats all for now, thanks for replys.
how many kingdoms are there ? Does everyone have a kingdom in them ?Also I thought in the christain religeon that the kingdom of God was the same thing as heaven .thats all for now, thanks for replys.
Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:08 pm » by Sheeple
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_God_Is_Within_You
The Kingdom of God Is Within You
The 1st English edition of The Kingdom of God Is Within You, 1894
The Kingdom of God Is Within You (Russian: Царство Божие внутри вас [Tsarstvo Bozhiye vnutri vas]) is the non-fiction magnum opus of Leo Tolstoy and was first published in Germany in 1894, after being banned in his home country of Russia. It is the culmination of thirty years of Tolstoy's Christian thinking, and lays out a new organization for society based on a literal Christian interpretation.
Reasoning
The title of the book is taken from Luke 17:21. In the book Tolstoy speaks of the principle of nonresistance when confronted by violence, as taught by Jesus (see Christian pacifism). Tolstoy sought to separate Orthodox Russian Christianity, which was merged with the state, from what he believed was the true message of Jesus Christ, as contained in the Gospels, specifically the Sermon on the Mount.
Tolstoy takes the viewpoint that all governments who wage war are an affront to Christian principles. When Christ says to turn the other cheek, Tolstoy asserts that he means simply that and rejects the interpretations of Roman and medieval scholars who attempted to limit its scope, writing:
“How can you kill people, when it is written in God’s commandment: ‘Thou shalt not murder’?”
– Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is within You
Tolstoy presented excerpts from magazines and newspapers relating various personal experiences, and gave keen insight into the history of non-resistance as being professed by a minority of believers from the very foundation of Christianity. In particular, he confronts those who argue that such a change to a non-violent society would be disastrous with the following recourse:
“That this social order with its pauperism, famines, prisons, gallows, armies, and wars is necessary to society; that still greater disaster would ensue if this organization were destroyed; all this is said only by those who profit by this organization, while those who suffer from it – and they are ten times as numerous – think and say quite the contrary.”
– Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is within You
Tolstoy recounted challenges by people of all classes that his views on non-resistance were wrong, but argued that no matter how the challengers tried to attack the doctrine, its essence could not be overcome. He advocated non-violence as a solution to nationalist woes and as a means for seeing the hypocrisy of the church. In reading Jesus' words in the Gospels, Tolstoy notes that the modern church is a heretical creation:
“Nowhere nor in anything, except in the assertion of the Church, can we find that God or Christ founded anything like what churchmen understand by the Church.”
– Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is within You
These words had profound influence on Mahatma Gandhi, who later used these ideas to stage a revolution in colonial India.
Tolstoy's relationship with Mahatma Gandhi
Mahatma Gandhi wrote in his autobiography The Story of My Experiments with Truth (Part II, Chapter 15) that this book "overwhelmed" him and "left an abiding impression." Gandhi listed Tolstoy's book, as well as John Ruskin's Unto This Last and the poet Shrimad Rajchandra (Raychandbhai), as the three most important modern influences in his life. Reading this book opened up the mind of the world-famous Tolstoy to Gandhi, who was still a young protester living in South Africa at the time.
In 1908 Tolstoy wrote, and Gandhi read, A Letter to a Hindu, which outlines the notion that only by using love as a weapon through passive resistance could the native Indian people overthrow the colonial British Empire. This idea ultimately came to fruition through Gandhi's organization of nationwide non-violent strikes and protests during the years circa 1918-1947. In 1909, Gandhi wrote to Tolstoy seeking advice and permission to republish A Letter to a Hindu in his native language, Gujarati. Tolstoy responded and the two continued a correspondence until Tolstoy's death in 1910. The letters concern practical and theological applications of non-violence, as well as Gandhi's wishes for Tolstoy's health; before he died, Tolstoy's last letter was to Mahatma Gandhi.
Many consider The Kingdom of God is Within You to be a key text for Tolstoyan, Christian anarchist, and nonviolent resistance movements worldwide.
The Kingdom of God Is Within You
The 1st English edition of The Kingdom of God Is Within You, 1894
The Kingdom of God Is Within You (Russian: Царство Божие внутри вас [Tsarstvo Bozhiye vnutri vas]) is the non-fiction magnum opus of Leo Tolstoy and was first published in Germany in 1894, after being banned in his home country of Russia. It is the culmination of thirty years of Tolstoy's Christian thinking, and lays out a new organization for society based on a literal Christian interpretation.
Reasoning
The title of the book is taken from Luke 17:21. In the book Tolstoy speaks of the principle of nonresistance when confronted by violence, as taught by Jesus (see Christian pacifism). Tolstoy sought to separate Orthodox Russian Christianity, which was merged with the state, from what he believed was the true message of Jesus Christ, as contained in the Gospels, specifically the Sermon on the Mount.
Tolstoy takes the viewpoint that all governments who wage war are an affront to Christian principles. When Christ says to turn the other cheek, Tolstoy asserts that he means simply that and rejects the interpretations of Roman and medieval scholars who attempted to limit its scope, writing:
“How can you kill people, when it is written in God’s commandment: ‘Thou shalt not murder’?”
– Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is within You
Tolstoy presented excerpts from magazines and newspapers relating various personal experiences, and gave keen insight into the history of non-resistance as being professed by a minority of believers from the very foundation of Christianity. In particular, he confronts those who argue that such a change to a non-violent society would be disastrous with the following recourse:
“That this social order with its pauperism, famines, prisons, gallows, armies, and wars is necessary to society; that still greater disaster would ensue if this organization were destroyed; all this is said only by those who profit by this organization, while those who suffer from it – and they are ten times as numerous – think and say quite the contrary.”
– Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is within You
Tolstoy recounted challenges by people of all classes that his views on non-resistance were wrong, but argued that no matter how the challengers tried to attack the doctrine, its essence could not be overcome. He advocated non-violence as a solution to nationalist woes and as a means for seeing the hypocrisy of the church. In reading Jesus' words in the Gospels, Tolstoy notes that the modern church is a heretical creation:
“Nowhere nor in anything, except in the assertion of the Church, can we find that God or Christ founded anything like what churchmen understand by the Church.”
– Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is within You
These words had profound influence on Mahatma Gandhi, who later used these ideas to stage a revolution in colonial India.
Tolstoy's relationship with Mahatma Gandhi
Mahatma Gandhi wrote in his autobiography The Story of My Experiments with Truth (Part II, Chapter 15) that this book "overwhelmed" him and "left an abiding impression." Gandhi listed Tolstoy's book, as well as John Ruskin's Unto This Last and the poet Shrimad Rajchandra (Raychandbhai), as the three most important modern influences in his life. Reading this book opened up the mind of the world-famous Tolstoy to Gandhi, who was still a young protester living in South Africa at the time.
In 1908 Tolstoy wrote, and Gandhi read, A Letter to a Hindu, which outlines the notion that only by using love as a weapon through passive resistance could the native Indian people overthrow the colonial British Empire. This idea ultimately came to fruition through Gandhi's organization of nationwide non-violent strikes and protests during the years circa 1918-1947. In 1909, Gandhi wrote to Tolstoy seeking advice and permission to republish A Letter to a Hindu in his native language, Gujarati. Tolstoy responded and the two continued a correspondence until Tolstoy's death in 1910. The letters concern practical and theological applications of non-violence, as well as Gandhi's wishes for Tolstoy's health; before he died, Tolstoy's last letter was to Mahatma Gandhi.
Many consider The Kingdom of God is Within You to be a key text for Tolstoyan, Christian anarchist, and nonviolent resistance movements worldwide.
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:29 pm » by Fossileyesed
personally i think god talks to all of us everyday,the devil also.
the choices you make defines your kingdom.
in my kingdom,god is loud and clear,the devil whispers(all day long i might add)
god is truth,the devil lies like a son of bitch.
my dad asked me how does god talk to you.so i say to him,first off ,you have to hear.and then you have have to see.
thats when i tell him ,god has'nt said a word to me.not pesonally anyhow.thats where dad starts thinking i'm a nutjob and turns cnn on.
i give him a hug and say i love you dad,see ya tomorrow.
i go home and contemplate my kingdom somemore.
peace
the choices you make defines your kingdom.
in my kingdom,god is loud and clear,the devil whispers(all day long i might add)
god is truth,the devil lies like a son of bitch.
my dad asked me how does god talk to you.so i say to him,first off ,you have to hear.and then you have have to see.
thats when i tell him ,god has'nt said a word to me.not pesonally anyhow.thats where dad starts thinking i'm a nutjob and turns cnn on.
i give him a hug and say i love you dad,see ya tomorrow.
i go home and contemplate my kingdom somemore.
peace
metaphors be with you
peace,love and harmony
peace,love and harmony
Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:41 pm » by Theduck
fossileyesed wrote:personally i think god talks to all of us everyday,the devil also.
the choices you make defines your kingdom.
in my kingdom,god is loud and clear,the devil whispers(all day long i might add)
god is truth,the devil lies like a son of bitch.
my dad asked me how does god talk to you.so i say to him,first off ,you have to hear.and then you have have to see.
thats when i tell him ,god has'nt said a word to me.not pesonally anyhow.thats where dad starts thinking i'm a nutjob and turns cnn on.
i give him a hug and say i love you dad,see ya tomorrow.
i go home and contemplate my kingdom somemore.
peace
That's kinda of funny man
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:00 pm » by Theduck
Hey Santa I know where you live so you better be bringin' me my solid gold tooth pick
"In Order To Live, You Must Be Willing To Die."
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"The Truth Cannot Be Told... It Must Be Realized"
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:13 pm » by Santaclaus
Leo Tolstoi, 1894
http://www.kingdomnow.org/withinyou.html
combined gold toothpick, earwax spoon
http://www.kingdomnow.org/withinyou.html
theduck wrote:Hey Santa I know where you live so you better be bringin' me my solid gold tooth pick
combined gold toothpick, earwax spoon
Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:27 pm » by Theduck
santaclaus wrote:Leo Tolstoi, 1894
http://www.kingdomnow.org/withinyou.htmltheduck wrote:Hey Santa I know where you live so you better be bringin' me my solid gold tooth pick
combined gold toothpick, earwax spoon
Awesome
I like this.. "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. "
The truth to me...we are all one and of the the same.
"In Order To Live, You Must Be Willing To Die."
"Exist In The Realm Of What Could Be...Not What Is" - Me
"The Truth Cannot Be Told... It Must Be Realized"
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