Good Muslims

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:26 pm » by **Livingtruth888**

ironlikealion wrote:yeah ,but there are enough threads about the extremists,
don't be so obsessive though .
too much of anything is bad for you ,you know.

nothing is more dangerous that having Islamic rule that means kafir (non-muslims will be slaughter if they dont convert , i mean even NWO is controllable but what about people who go by there BOOK without any use of there brains :ohno:

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:30 pm » by **Spock**

For the sake of this message board. And for you to build legitimacy, don't hurt your cause by being overly zealous yourself.

Argue it, stand up to the other position, but the only thing flooding the board does is agitate the people that would agree with you.

Let's not go down that road - it sucks.

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:38 pm » by **Livingtruth888**

ok sorry !! but what about all Muslim video out there in this website its irritates the shit out of me man

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:40 pm » by **Livingtruth888**

all lies and crap insulting others religions... plz tell them stop posting those

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:42 pm » by **Spock**

livingtruth888 wrote:ok sorry !! but what about all Muslim video out there in this website its irritates the shit out of me man

We have no control of the video section from this side of the website. We are just some guys that mod the forum section.

There are always arguments that will piss you off, just argue them in the forum, rationally.

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:45 pm » by **Eliakim**

Yes Arabs for Israel (USA) have worked hard for a long time.

There is also the ex-Muslim councils in Canada and Europe. Plus the Secular Islamic Forum.

The St. Petersburg Declaration

April 5, 2007

We are secular Muslims, and secular persons of Muslim societies. We are believers, doubters, and unbelievers, brought together by a great struggle, not between the West and Islam, but between the free and the unfree.

We affirm the inviolable freedom of the individual conscience. We believe in the equality of all human persons.

We insist upon the separation of religion from state and the observance of universal human rights.

We find traditions of liberty, rationality, and tolerance in the rich histories of pre-Islamic and Islamic societies. These values do not belong to the West or the East; they are the common moral heritage of humankind.

We see no colonialism, racism, or so-called "Islamaphobia" in submitting Islamic practices to criticism or condemnation when they violate human reason or rights.

We call on the governments of the world to

reject Sharia law, fatwa courts, clerical rule, and state-sanctioned religion in all their forms; oppose all penalties for blasphemy and apostasy, in accordance with Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human rights;
eliminate practices, such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage, that further the oppression of women;
protect sexual and gender minorities from persecution and violence;
reform sectarian education that teaches intolerance and bigotry towards non-Muslims;
and foster an open public sphere in which all matters may be discussed without coercion or intimidation.
We demand the release of Islam from its captivity to the totalitarian ambitions of power-hungry men and the rigid strictures of orthodoxy.

We enjoin academics and thinkers everywhere to embark on a fearless examination of the origins and sources of Islam, and to promulgate the ideals of free scientific and spiritual inquiry through cross-cultural translation, publishing, and the mass media.

We say to Muslim believers: there is a noble future for Islam as a personal faith, not a political doctrine;

to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha'is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens;

and to nonbelievers: we defend your unqualified liberty to question and dissent.

Before any of us is a member of the Umma, the Body of Christ, or the Chosen People, we are all members of the community of conscience, the people who must choose for themselves.

Endorsed by:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Magdi Allam
Mithal Al-Alusi
Shaker Al-Nabulsi
Nonie Darwish
Afshin Ellian
Tawfik Hamid
Shahriar Kabir
Hasan Mahmud
Wafa Sultan
Amir Taheri
Ibn Warraq
Manda Zand Ervin
Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:46 pm » by **Livingtruth888**

but altleast tell them not to post religion contents thats it .....

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:51 pm » by **Eliakim**

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Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:52 pm » by **Livingtruth888**

eliakim wrote:Yes Arabs for Israel (USA) have worked hard for a long time.

There is also the ex-Muslim councils in Canada and Europe. Plus the Secular Islamic Forum.

The St. Petersburg Declaration

April 5, 2007

We are secular Muslims, and secular persons of Muslim societies. We are believers, doubters, and unbelievers, brought together by a great struggle, not between the West and Islam, but between the free and the unfree.

We affirm the inviolable freedom of the individual conscience. We believe in the equality of all human persons.

We insist upon the separation of religion from state and the observance of universal human rights.

We find traditions of liberty, rationality, and tolerance in the rich histories of pre-Islamic and Islamic societies. These values do not belong to the West or the East; they are the common moral heritage of humankind.

We see no colonialism, racism, or so-called "Islamaphobia" in submitting Islamic practices to criticism or condemnation when they violate human reason or rights.

We call on the governments of the world to

reject Sharia law, fatwa courts, clerical rule, and state-sanctioned religion in all their forms; oppose all penalties for blasphemy and apostasy, in accordance with Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human rights;
eliminate practices, such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage, that further the oppression of women;
protect sexual and gender minorities from persecution and violence;
reform sectarian education that teaches intolerance and bigotry towards non-Muslims;
and foster an open public sphere in which all matters may be discussed without coercion or intimidation.
We demand the release of Islam from its captivity to the totalitarian ambitions of power-hungry men and the rigid strictures of orthodoxy.

We enjoin academics and thinkers everywhere to embark on a fearless examination of the origins and sources of Islam, and to promulgate the ideals of free scientific and spiritual inquiry through cross-cultural translation, publishing, and the mass media.

We say to Muslim believers: there is a noble future for Islam as a personal faith, not a political doctrine;

to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha'is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens;

and to nonbelievers: we defend your unqualified liberty to question and dissent.

Before any of us is a member of the Umma, the Body of Christ, or the Chosen People, we are all members of the community of conscience, the people who must choose for themselves.

Endorsed by:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Magdi Allam
Mithal Al-Alusi
Shaker Al-Nabulsi
Nonie Darwish
Afshin Ellian
Tawfik Hamid
Shahriar Kabir
Hasan Mahmud
Wafa Sultan
Amir Taheri
Ibn Warraq
Manda Zand Ervin
Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

ya plz spread this message and stop converting other religion to islam ,,
its an humble request especially ur innocent women and children ........LIVE and LET LIVE

Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:53 pm » by **Ironlikealion**

thanks eli .

livingtruth888 wrote:but altleast tell them not to post religion contents thats it .....

you don't understand how it works , they post a video ,you post a video ,they say
a lie , prove it's really a lie ,debate, say why you think they are wrong ,
once in a while if you have anything new to say give it a go , but flooding
the forums on one subject all the time just irritates everyone ,no matter
what your message is .