Gospel of John, chapter 16, verse 12-14

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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:50 pm » by Charashc


"I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. "

Ok, if Jesus is not speaking about Mohammad then please tell me what's he talking about? And please consider that eliakim is not relevant answer..

This topic is made for constructive exchange of opinions if it succed in developing one, it's purpose is NOT preaching or any "my religion is better" debate. I just wanna know if there's any opinion on this particular verses from gosspels of John.

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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:51 pm » by 99socks


charashc wrote:"I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. "

Ok, if Jesus is not speaking about Mohammad then please tell me what's he talking about? And please consider that eliakim is not relevant answer..

This topic is made for constructive exchange of opinions if it succed in developing one, it's purpose is NOT preaching or any "my religion is better" debate. I just wanna know if there's any opinion on this particular verses from gosspels of John.

Thank you very much.



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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:53 pm » by Mochon


Mass awakening,realization.the voice of the consiesuness of all,put together in one voice...what sone call enlightment...what do you think?

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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:54 pm » by 99socks


mochon wrote:Mass awakening,realization.the voice of the consiesuness of all,put together in one voice...what sone call enlightment...what do you think?



Same thing... Holy Spirit. :D
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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:56 pm » by Charashc


Good point of view, but in what form and when are you expecting this prophecy to be fulfilled?
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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:57 pm » by 99socks


... and I'm not saying that as a Bible-thumper, either.
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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:57 pm » by Charashc


99socks wrote:Same thing... Holy Spirit. :D


What's Holy Spirit?
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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 7:59 pm » by 99socks


charashc wrote:Good point of view, but in what form and when are you expecting this prophecy to be fulfilled?



It already happened... See Acts chapter 2. :D

The thing is, while it happened/was given 2,000 years ago en masse, it also is given/happens on a daily basis on an individual level. It has nothing to do with dogma or any other trappings or religion.
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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 8:01 pm » by 99socks


charashc wrote:
99socks wrote:Same thing... Holy Spirit. :D


What's Holy Spirit?



Depends what interpretation and what spin you want to put on it... You can call it God/part of the Trinity, you can call it the Spirit of God, you can call it the Universal Life Force, you can call it Chi... it's all essentially the same thing.
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PostWed Dec 29, 2010 8:05 pm » by Charashc


99socks wrote:
charashc wrote:
99socks wrote:Same thing... Holy Spirit. :D


What's Holy Spirit?



Depends what interpretation and what spin you want to put on it... You can call it God/part of the Trinity, you can call it the Spirit of God, you can call it the Universal Life Force, you can call it Chi... it's all essentially the same thing.


Correct me if I'm understanding wrong, but the Holy Spirit is like a force of God which is also the part of all of us humans? Like the God's light in us (mentioned in all monotheistic religions)?
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