Governor plans to completely eliminate welfare for families

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PostSat May 23, 2009 9:24 pm » by bugmenot


Governor plans to completely eliminate welfare for families :bang; :hell: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... aid-.html/


Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is proposing to completely eliminate the state’s welfare program for families, medical insurance for low-income children and Cal Grants cash assistance to college and university students.

The proposals to sharply scale back the assistance that California provides to its neediest residents came in testimony by the administration this afternoon at a joint legislative budget committee hearing. It followed comments by the governor earlier today that he would be withdrawing a proposal to help balance the budget with billions of dollars of borrowing and replacing it with program reductions.

The proposals would completely reshape the state’s social service network, transforming California from one of the country’s most generous states to one of the most tightfisted. The proposals are intended to help close a budget deficit estimated at $21.3 billion.

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PostSat May 23, 2009 11:04 pm » by Bink02


Personally I think we should round up all illegal aliens , people on welfare , kids that can't go to college without a grant ,disabled veterans, disabled citizens ,and anyone else that can not work and pay taxes , and have them all publicly executed on prime time , to set an example of what happens to anyone that dares goes against the will of hard working tax paying Americans and when these hardworking tax paying Americans , get too old , or injured so they cannot work, they too should be executed , this will after all insure that America remains strong and a driving force the world today . Sorry I was reading through some of the viewer comments from the article, that was the impression I got from some of them . My perspective on the Welfare system is , yes , it need to be revamped , it is the most demeaning , humiliating, and depressing system to be a part of . I know because I'm on it , I've worked my whole life , served my country , owned my own home , etc. and then to end up being part of a self serving system , that only interest is it's own survival , is quite depressing , it is a system designed to keep you on it , whether intentionally or not I do not know , what I think they need to do ( and I have suggested this ) they need to work with small business not the corporations, for promoting job growth , there are sooo many small businesses out there , that would love to hire someone , but they simply cannot afford it , it's true , the state gives tax cuts for hiring , but thats not what the small business man wants , they want quite simply to have someone help them with their business, what I think the state should do is come up with some sort of contract that pays the wages for say a year , then , hopefully said business will make enough money to hire said individual, the states logic for not doing this ? it's too expensive , their job classes constantly push corporate job seeking , with little or no concern for the small business man , people are constantly recycled through these classes , true some of the younger folks make it out , but the older American goes around and around , how much does that cost the tax payer I wonder ? Well that's my rant for today :D sort of a touchy subject with me I guess . good post by the way :flop:
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PostSat May 23, 2009 11:17 pm » by Cornbread714


bink02 wrote:Personally I think we should round up all illegal aliens , people on welfare , kids that can't go to college without a grant ,disabled veterans, disabled citizens ,and anyone else that can not work and pay taxes , and have them all publicly executed on prime time , to set an example of what happens to anyone that dares goes against the will of hard working tax paying Americans and when these hardworking tax paying Americans , get too old , or injured so they cannot work, they too should be executed , this will after all insure that America remains strong and a driving force the world today . Sorry I was reading through some of the viewer comments from the article, that was the impression I got from some of them . My perspective on the Welfare system is , yes , it need to be revamped , it is the most demeaning , humiliating, and depressing system to be a part of . I know because I'm on it , I've worked my whole life , served my country , owned my own home , etc. and then to end up being part of a self serving system , that only interest is it's own survival , is quite depressing , it is a system designed to keep you on it , whether intentionally or not I do not know , what I think they need to do ( and I have suggested this ) they need to work with small business not the corporations, for promoting job growth , there are sooo many small businesses out there , that would love to hire someone , but they simply cannot afford it , it's true , the state gives tax cuts for hiring , but thats not what the small business man wants , they want quite simply to have someone help them with their business, what I think the state should do is come up with some sort of contract that pays the wages for say a year , then , hopefully said business will make enough money to hire said individual, the states logic for not doing this ? it's too expensive , their job classes constantly push corporate job seeking , with little or no concern for the small business man , people are constantly recycled through these classes , true some of the younger folks make it out , but the older American goes around and around , how much does that cost the tax payer I wonder ? Well that's my rant for today :D sort of a touchy subject with me I guess . good post by the way :flop:


Good post. They do something similar to what you are suggesting here in Holland. My limited understanding (mainly through friends who are in these programs) is that it ain't exactly perfect. The social system here is quite different than the States, it used to be much more generous and subject to widespread fraud and abuse, I know people here who laugh and reminisce fondly about the days when it was easy to weasel money out of the government.
Things have tightened up considerably.
Holland has a lot of good laws but there's this creepy socialist undertone regarding employment and housing and immigration, oh, and banking. Oh, and grocery stores. There's like...one. Not really, but almost...

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