Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls

[Inferi Profile Website]

Weird; season 6 of supernatural did something very similar to this theory. Except, replace aliens with demons and angels. But basically, two characters from the show were trying to harvest souls in order to obtain power to defeat an archangel. I wonder if they used Nigel's theory and twisted it to fit a more biblical story...

But regardless, this is a really interesting concept that I want to read more into (it's actually pretty scary).

[Malkere Profile]

demons and "greys" have the same agenda, both feed of fear.

good luck defeating an omnipresent being of pure love though...

I wanted to say too, kind of what baboogdi was touching on, that this whole reality, this level of the universe is more or less a play. This is where we learn (specific lessons) because there is no negativity in the majority of the higher realms. In otherwords, no demons, no bad guys, no wrong choices, no bruised elbows, no ugly people, no failure, only pure unending love and passion. Which is great, and still has a multitude of lessons and endeavors to be had on the spiral of evoultion, but you`re going to have a hard time learning the virture of patience, when everything is possible on a whim. It is because we suffer that we grow in the ways we do in this reality.

[Stratafire Profile]

The soul uses a version of a discovery (which is "Quantified infinity" or (QI) ).. it is what and "where" Our experiences (good/bad/indifferent) reside, it is a permanent record of all that we are, have been, aspire to be, and what goals we desire to achieve..

It is a carry over to another realm of experiences (which all their is to be done with a soul), yet is "not" what we truly "are" .. we go far beyond infinities, far beyond dimensional realms of any kind, our true state, has no single form, as it is always shifting, and constantly moving (as all things do, no matter dimension, or state of being)

And residing within that realm, at near the highest peak of obtainments possible, rest's our "free will", separate, yet always on the same playing field as each other, the soul is our means to experience this 3D realm we live through, no matter the dimensional plane we exist within, and is always attached to our spiritual self..

The grays are a genetic experiment, not from another world, but from this one, in the past, within another civilization, and are the results of tampering with raw genetic stock..

There is an ancient belief, that at one moment in our history, that we as a human race, achieved what was thought to be impossible (just as our world today shuns the concept of QI as a whole, as an example).. it was the rare, and difficult to comprehend (much less manufacture) "Chimera Formula" ..

It was/is rumored, that it allowed for intermixing of species of "any" genetic type, that it acted (in modern terms) as a growth medium, that prevented rejection of the foreign genetic stock (such as a spider to a human DNA). thereby allowing for a means to produce any type of creature one desired, reinforcing the best of both (or many more types mixed together from other sources besides just two types) to make a single organic machine..

The purity of the blood was always being refined, getting to the point, were they could maintain a formula of liquid "gray matter", that was stable, and reliable for literally manufacturing genetically grown bipeds, of very limited intelligence.. programmed by means of instinctual algorithms, taken from other creatures, to produce a slave unit for end user desires..

The rare chimera formula itself, was lost to antiquity, yet the products of those days, those civilizations "remains" to plague us to this day..

If they are looking for how to make a "soul", then they will always fail, they have no means, as it goes beyond their programming, or expertise, yet (fortunately or unfortunately depending on which side the fence your on) "WE" the product of the creator of all, the only creation that exists that has free will, "can", and do go beyond a mere instinctive recorder and basic instinctive intelligence, unlike the grays..

The only energy that works in a soul, is the energy derived from the brains activity.. in reality, our brain is also an entropy machine, a paradox of existence, it produces more energy then it takes in (proven BTW), yet this energy has to come from somewhere, and that source, is the interface between our spiritual self, and the 3D physical world we live through (did you know, that at the moment of death, exactly 6.5 ounces of weight is lost to the body?.. every wonder "why?)

If the grays are trying to make a soul, they will never succeed, if (however) they are attempting to "harness" the output production of the brain? .. then they can easily succeed in that..

That is, if you believe in grays or aliens in the first place (this is only a postulation, based on the threads title, not a personal projection of my own belief system)

[Malkere Profile]

Ive always believed that science fiction, or good science fiction that is, is often a reflection of the future/present/past. Any good artist knows that art doesnt come from a drawing board of numbers and diagrams but from somewhere within, many people call the heart (and no, not the blood pumping kind). Your post stratafire makes me think of the Matrix, or more in general the long belief that `robots` will some day rise against their creators. Not so far off the topic here is it?

Robotic sub-race, void of spiritual awareness, surpasses human `intelligence` and strives for perfection against morales and the odds.

Bummer to be conscious of the fact you`re not really conscious.

"If I`m to be killed, then when, by whom." -the robot, coheed and cambria

[Mickymtl Profile]

Based on a whole bunch of research I've done, Greys were originally a robot race that far out lived their makers. Through their own evolution(and ai) somewhere they managed to include bio genetic material as part of their form. They are very very old(one of the oldest beings in our universe) and have evolved to a point where they realized that they have no soul. Through their own experiments they discovered all 'natural' living things in our universe have some sort of soul (or consciousness)
They are trying to 're-invent' themselves in order to be able to host a soul. The 'breeding' program that's going on now on earth is a result of that( I'm sure its happening elsewhere also). They are mixing their DNA with ours to create a hybrid being that will be able to host a soul(or at least some soul energy).
Its almost sad for an ai being to evolve so far and realize they are different from 'natural' living beings in this universe.
They are very very smart and knowledgeable about this universe. They figured out all that weird stuff about particles, entanglement, quantum physics etc... a long time ago. They can even exist in other densities like the 4th density which actually is kinda half way from our 3D world and where we will go when we die.
Some of the reptilians are responsible for harvesting chemicals from our brain and spinal fluid. It is like a drug fro them which they sell on their market like drugs. Though not all reptilians are bad.

[Kayla Profile]

I read the Greys are clones of some kind and are being controlled by a stronger race of aliens, not sure how much of that I believe, but interesting none the less.

[Mydogma Profile Website]

I find it a little silly that they just couldn't steal a few hundred of us and stick us in a lab to reproduce..and harvest away? For me if they are here and doing ubductions they are possible just sEeing how their cattle are doing and following genitic lines...but hey who knows...all I know is there are thousands of souls for sale in america...just go make a banker the right offer and I am sure they would sell it.

[Mickymtl Profile]

I find it a little silly that they just couldn't steal a few hundred of us and stick us in a lab to reproduce..and harvest away? For me if they are here and doing ubductions they are possible just sEeing how their cattle are doing and following genitic lines...but hey who knows...all I know is there are thousands of souls for sale in america...just go make a banker the right offer and I am sure they would sell it.

Apparently they can't do that because they need 'experiences'. There is something special about a spiritual being accumulating experience in life, that is the 'fuel' they need. If they were to take a few hundred and go away, then they are limited to the experiences of those individuals which is probably not enough for their goals.

[Suevassusej Profile]

preventing the alien harvest
On reflecting on a better way forward for humanity other than to buy into
the alleged end-based evolution of the human social charade - I found
that there needed to be some distance between my expectations of society
and its alleged social [historic/scientific/technical etc] rules and myself
and that included establishing my own relation to the true Kingdom of
God.


Christ on the mountain was shown all the kingdoms of men that were in
satans thrall until satans allotted time was done - so the tightly controlled
charade of planet Earth as it masquerades and alleges social evolution
merely blends into other chaotic social incarnations and dysfunctional
mixtures of more of the same. It is actually a devolving soul pit designed
to strip us of our spiritual grace and spiritual integrity.


It is controlled by the soul hungry, shape-shifting [demonic] Reptilians
and Greys and their infernal technologies - who can run up to the next
bus stop and back in the blink of our human eyes and who have
encyclopedic skills and knowledge in contrast to our genetically
dysfunctional and artificial human state etc


Indeed they can often make super physical things manifest in a
cartoonesque way.


In this society there appears to be no social justice – where the humans
whose souls that satan wants to harvest are elevated to great and often
undeserving social heights and numbed by the shroud of overwhelming
success in relation to the social standards of the day.


Satan mimics and attempts to annul our vision of Heaven, distorting and
degrading our spiritual hope.


Often the most special and gifted people in these charades are mined out
and suppressed in despair as these beings squat in our spirits and try to
hack our souls of their spark.


Life on Earth therefore to my way of seeing it is about satans contrived
injustice and a blatant attempt to strip the human soul and human spirit
and the Christ in us that was God given to all. It is our choice to resist this
and fight for the right to love.


We can do this by realizing that the true Kingdom of Christ is in our
hearts now and is also a profoundly real super-spiritual realm beyond here
– and that all derogatory attempts to animalize and bestialize us will fail
because Christ is ultimately carrying us there to our true home.


Our victory is to arrive there at the threshold of Heaven as loving
humans, not embittered by injustice but in the knowledge that our
salvation for a more glorious and fulfilling society was always certain 158
because we believed in Christ.


Christ is the root from which all human generations of love flow, the
grapevine of Holiness from the Highest to the lowest realm and all human
integrity and saved human souls live within His pattern.


Victories for Christ within the remit of this temporally fallen world may
be down to the love within the individual and Christ-like human heart –
each vessel according to its measure, its talents and its deployment.

Whatever this world is ‘doing’ – its not manifesting enough love and
enough good, it is a constant struggle against distortion, entropy and
death – the death of spirit the death of love, the death and distortion of
soul.


It is our job as loving beings to manifest love within our own personal
social contexts in this cauldron of iniquities – and that is the victory for
our Father and Christ and our Holy Family in this world.

[Mickymtl Profile]

Christ is an alien himself.