Hamas-Fatah alliance; USA Now Funding Islamic Terrorism

Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:06 pm » by **Otoel**

WTF are they like the turban-head equivalent of the KKK?

Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:09 pm » by **Tuor10**

America should just fuck the Arabs and take it all.

The thought of America going under horrifies me.
I don't think people have truly contemplated the alternatives.

Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:11 pm » by **Tuor10**

otoel wrote:

WTF are they like the turban-head equivalent of the KKK?

They would burn well on a bonfire.

Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:02 pm » by **Perronick**

I don't want America to go down, but the plutocrat, zionist, christian fundamentalist, money loving, evil thugs that are ruling America (and Europe). In the worst case scenario possible, we might have to fight and we wouldn't be freed from wars, but at least we would be fighting for what's right. Now we are full of wars anyway but for all the wrong reasons.

Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:09 pm » by **Tuor10**

perronick wrote:I don't want America to go down, but the plutocrat, zionist, christian fundamentalist, money loving, evil thugs that are ruling America (and Europe). In the worst case scenario possible, we might have to fight and we wouldn't be freed from wars, but at least we would be fighting for what's right. Now we are full of wars anyway but for all the wrong reasons.

Plutocracy's will always exist within any prescribed system of governance. It is just a natural human instinct for the few to eventually take control of the many. Until that chain of thought is broken, humans will always look to someone else to do their thinking.

We cannot break our chains of obedience while we are ensnared in our current paradigm.

Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:28 pm » by **Perronick**

I would agree on that, tuor10, but please let me correct just one concept, if I may, Plutocracy is the rule of Rich over the rest. I can admit that there will always be Rich or Plutocrats that will try to impose their interests over the ineterests of the majority. On that I could agree. It might look like a matter of semantics, but I thought I had to make the point

Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:39 pm » by **Tuor10**

perronick wrote:I would agree on that, tuor10, but please let me correct just one concept, if I may, Plutocracy is the rule of Rich over the rest. I can admit that there will always be Rich or Plutocrats that will try to impose their interests over the ineterests of the majority. On that I could agree. It might look like a matter of semantics, but I thought I had to make the point

I am fully aware of what the term means, and implied it in the sense that the wealthy and the powerful always rule over the multitudes. It really is a matter of semantics. Oligarchy confers a similar meaning; although the term oligarch is an older term to describe the power of the aristocrats and the dynastic houses of Europe.

Thus if we are going to use a correct word to describe a term more germane to our current circumstances, one would have to conclude that we live within a *plutarchy* system of governance; for there is now a merger between the rich and the old elites.

Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:10 pm » by **Perronick**

Then instead of a matter of semantics it might be a matter of beliefs ...or still semantics ..may be both. You know, the problem here is that we might agree in a high % and we don't know. But I'm going to adopt a "quatum-physics" point of view in this case, in the sense that I refuse to admit that there always be a Plutocracies and therefore prevent Plutocracies from existing. :alien51:

Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:20 pm » by **Tuor10**

perronick wrote:Then instead of a matter of semantics it might be a matter of beliefs ...or still semantics ..may be both. You know, the problem here is that we might agree in a high % and we don't know. But I'm going to adopt a "quatum-physics" point of view in this case, in the sense that I refuse to admit that there always be a Plutocracies and therefore prevent Plutocracies from existing.

Maybe it's a genetic code that afflicts the majority?
I see it quite a lot in my line of work: people always referring to others for approval or justification.
Think about it; knowledge bestows a certain pattern on people. For example - if you knew that walking down a certain pathway would be perilous to your well being, you wouldn't take that path; but for others who are not aware of this, or do not believe that the path is perilous, will have their well being affected because they were not of mind to take heed of the information. Those who do take heed, and learn from it, always go on and further their knowledge of perilous paths, while the majority remain ignorant. Thus those who know the paths can tread carefully, planning their next moves, while the rest stumble blindly.
History tell us that this process is a perpetual cycle. Break the cycle, and it doesn't perpetuate itself any more.