Health Care Reform & You

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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 5:42 am » by Lisakitty


I am interested to hear, what people have to say, about Health Care Reform.
Please take the time to read about it, and watch the videos, at this link.

http://lisakittyshottopics.blogspot.com/2009/08/health-care-reform-and-you.html

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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 6:02 am » by Realorfake


If I lost my job in this shitty economy, it'd be nice knowing the amount of money thats been taken out of my paycheck since I first started working would at least give me some vindication. If I could obtain healthcare without a $30,000 hospital debt, well, I think its easy to understand no?

Simple as that.
How many times must you honk your horn and say fuck you?
Now what the fuck does that do?
You feel better now, I didnt let you pass.
How bout I stop my car and beat your fuckin' ass?

jetxvii

PostWed Aug 19, 2009 6:15 am » by jetxvii


It's Unconstitutional by means of supplying a good, not a Right given to us by it..

In any sense I would say if they were to have anything major like this to determine something that will cover "everyone" (Even Lazy ass Welfare cases) and (non-citizens). I would think the only fair way would be to let all of America vote on it person for person. I truly think that is the only way I would accept it. which is how it won't happen either.

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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 8:27 am » by dusty1969


Read the bill. At least skim through it and read the major points. It is a well written, balanced, thoughtful, piece of legislation. It is absolutely amazing just how good this is for all of us. We are all so use to shit like the patriot act that we think that anything coming out of Washington is evil.

Let me say this reeeeeaaalllll loud!!

THE ONLY ONES WHO DON'T WANT HEALTH CARE REFORM ARE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!!

Stop listening to the hype and read the bill. You will see the truth.

jetxvii

PostWed Aug 19, 2009 9:10 am » by jetxvii


dusty1969 wrote:Read the bill. At least skim through it and read the major points. It is a well written, balanced, thoughtful, piece of legislation. It is absolutely amazing just how good this is for all of us. We are all so use to shit like the patriot act that we think that anything coming out of Washington is evil.

Let me say this reeeeeaaalllll loud!!

THE ONLY ONES WHO DON'T WANT HEALTH CARE REFORM ARE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!!

Stop listening to the hype and read the bill. You will see the truth.


I have read the bill. and I still don't like it.. it's unconstitutional if people want free health-care so badly they should move somewhere else... we aren't a socialist country and if we start excepting social like programs through the government then we will just want them to wipe our ass more and defy the constitution more... it's "NOT" ok for the government to break the constitution when they take away rights or suspend them. BUT GOD FORSAKE US when they want to allegedly "HELP" us by breaking the constitution... either way it's illegal so I digress...

REALLY think about it people there are other ways to make the insurance company or medical industry listen. but people would rather take the easy way out... its a damn shame I used to have such faith in the people and now all they want to do is lay down while they are slowly being drawn into debt and ultimate doom over time...

It's like a cattle farm for the elite really, they want us healthy to pay our taxes right? Be strong like Tarzan to work for money? so we can work to pay back the national debt and fund them for borrowing more money to take back to there banks. however when time passes and you are older, or you have a mentally challenged individual who is just going to drain the national pool set aside for this program and fundamentally cant work then they don't give you the proper care you should receive until you wither away like a rose petal and fall off of your stem?

It's going to happen that way, and there will be no way to challenge your health-care because the funding is going to be monetarily regulated according to known disease population, known mental illness population etc... you can't and won't be able to challenge your overall health care either because as bureaucratic as it is already in the health-care business it will be even more bureaucratic because your going to throw in a government in the mix with a health-care system...I believe the saying goes don't fight fire with fire which is exactly whats happening.


I ask everyone to rethink this... you (most) claim "Oh GOD DAMN this governement, they can't even run a car into a wall. let alone run a country." And you people are supporting electing these same people to run a health-care reform?

I'm not angry this is just a sort of let down... something I take very seriously..

dusty1969

PostWed Aug 19, 2009 10:10 am » by dusty1969


REALLY think about it people there are other ways to make the insurance company or medical industry listen. but people would rather take the easy way out... its a damn shame I used to have such faith in the people and now all they want to do is lay down while they are slowly being drawn into debt and ultimate doom over time...


My friend, I will defend our right to be as obtuse as you want to the end of my days; however, I will retain the right to call your b.s..

As it sits now we have insurance companies making absurd amounts or money..hold on, let me explain...our insurance companies are making soooooooo much money that you may think that their sole pleasure in life if rolling naked in cash!!!

We, that mean you and me, are being abused by corporate interests. Abused like a 20 inch dildo up the you know what. This is not a question of free market when the entire industry meets as a whole and decides what they will charge for services. That is called a co-operative effort at market control, or a monopoly. ( if you think these people don't know how to work around modern monopoly regulations then you are truly ignorant).

The fact that our friendly, neighborhood, insurance company is so sure fired against this health car reform should be your first, and most indicative, assurance that health car reform is about the people and not about the evil empire!

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PostWed Aug 19, 2009 4:50 pm » by Lisakitty


Dusty1969, I think that you have a good point within your comment. I made sure that I wrote about those certain insurance companies, having their hands in the mix, so that they can reap in the big profits, so that more people would become more aware of this greedy practice. It's like they are saying, the hell with the regular people, who end up paying these rich a-holes too much money, when those regular people, can barely afford to put food on their tables, because they are constantly being fleeced by these companies.
If the gov't would eliminate those, for profit insurance companies, then we might have a chance to recover from this on going recession, by not being forced to pay more into a system, which is already receiving money for our health care, from our tax money.

jetxvii

PostWed Aug 19, 2009 9:51 pm » by jetxvii


dusty1969 wrote:
REALLY think about it people there are other ways to make the insurance company or medical industry listen. but people would rather take the easy way out... its a damn shame I used to have such faith in the people and now all they want to do is lay down while they are slowly being drawn into debt and ultimate doom over time...


My friend, I will defend our right to be as obtuse as you want to the end of my days; however, I will retain the right to call your b.s..

As it sits now we have insurance companies making absurd amounts or money..hold on, let me explain...our insurance companies are making soooooooo much money that you may think that their sole pleasure in life if rolling naked in cash!!!

We, that mean you and me, are being abused by corporate interests. Abused like a 20 inch dildo up the you know what. This is not a question of free market when the entire industry meets as a whole and decides what they will charge for services. That is called a co-operative effort at market control, or a monopoly. ( if you think these people don't know how to work around modern monopoly regulations then you are truly ignorant).

The fact that our friendly, neighborhood, insurance company is so sure fired against this health car reform should be your first, and most indicative, assurance that health car reform is about the people and not about the evil empire!



No dusty it is you that is seeming to call the B.S. here...

I realize that they are raping people for money and services... but you fail to recognize that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL... Obtuse or not IT'S AGAINST THE WRITTEN LAW OF THE FOREFATHERS... point out a spot any spot in the constitution where it says we can accept a socialist medical program??? anywhere???

You think the only way for the insurance companies to be brought down is by government control? instead of government intervention? you see what needs to happen is that if your claims are true about the insurance agencies ( which I believe they are also ) then what needs to happen by the government is a certain checking system to make sure that people are being taken care of for the ammount that they are paying. or how about this if people are so fed up with the Insurance Agencies then how about all the people that are getting fucked over and out take out a federal class action lawsuit against the companies to blame??? has anyone thought of that? has the courts decided that "hey maybe these insurance companies are frauding people?" "these insurance companies need to be on a restrictive law of paying out what they reap in funds to "INSURE" the safety of their customers?"

a natural response would be yeah they have done that before with little success... then that lawsuit failure and initial breaking of a very serious law is considered a FELONY on multiple accounts which means it's a failure of the system or "government" and you still want this same government to run the insurance companies??? Where is the logical thought in that? not to mention the stupid people that buy their policies and don't even know what they are buying and pay their premiums anyways and just bitch about it and don't do a God Damn thing about it because "at least some of its covered, and I'm not losing a limb now so I should be OK." Then the unthinkable happens and OH GOD the insurance company raped me and "NOW" I have a problem with it...

if you think these people don't know how to work around modern monopoly regulations then you are truly ignorant


No I am not ignorant, and that statement proves that the system hasn't worked in the first place to settle these claims and to take out the criminals involved in the Insurance Fraud... once again the same system you want to put in power to run this whole scheme.

just for the basic facts... I don't have health insurance.. why? because of this exact bullshit you speak of coming from the companies. I haven't been to a doctor since I was 16 I am now 23. I feel fantastic and pray everyday that nothing serious happens to me, however I will not be part of a problem that seems like a solution...

If anyone truly reads what I have just written and still thinks this is a good thing I pray for you (in a Non Christian way) because here is the run down of what is to happen...

insurance companies forced to pay for the services they supply equals no money coming in for them when all they are doing is paying out... sure sure they will be OK for a while because they have a lot of money correct.. so Much they can lay naked on it correct? but then what. they will run out of money then our now new Government run health care will print out more fake money, thus causing more tax and more national debt for me, my daughter, her kids, and her kids to pay off... you know it's alot like recycling and people that litter... "oh I'll drop this on the ground it won't matter." Times that by a billion over the period of say 100 years and that equals one nasty mess of someone that has to pick up the pieces as long as it's not you directly of course. then the recycling aspect of it: "help solve the problem first, before it gets out of hand."

if you have a counter response after this I won't respond anymore I have stated my case and the factuality of it, as well as the legality of it and the morality of it... and they all point to wrong. this is not a direct attack to you but rather a responsive attack to the lazy asses or rather misinformed people out there that think this is the only way to do it...

THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT DON'T WANT THIS!!

Bullshit I represent no one... that reminds me of a bush quote:

"EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORIST!"

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PostFri Aug 21, 2009 1:49 am » by Lisakitty


I don't have health insurance either, because the place that I work for, is to small, and my boss can't afford to insure his employees. I can't afford to insure myself either.
I am trying to stay healthy, by eating more fresh vegetables, which includes adding fresh raw garlic to salads. I no longer eat anything with wheat or corn in it. I also stopped drinking fruit juices made with high fructose corn syrup. I include fresh raw garlic with my dinner, because it is a natural antibiotic. I know that I have to do, whatever I can, to keep my self healthy, because I literally, can't afford to get sick.



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