Thats my point, it doesnt matter at all. I really dont care.

Hi Illuminator13,

I admit i didn't read your thread (presuming you are indeed the same guy) on ATS but read the hidden hand material and found it to be at the very least a fascinating read. I wonder though, you have had your time when it was necessary to answer the questions of the herd, my question is what are you doing here now? You say just to chat etc but don't you have valuable bloodline business to attend to? It strikes me as a bit strange than one of the supposed secret rulers of the world has the time to shoot the shit with the likes of us on a ufo forum.

Also you strike me as very young, at the very least in comparison to Hidden Hand who had a far greater deal of maturity and eloquence in his thread, thus making him more convincing than you (hence why i stopped reading your thread i might add). Are you a junior member of this bloodline? have you still got to kill your first goat and extract the semen from a well travelled camel before you get your robes? just kidding

But seriously, i know you will say you don't have to prove anything but i would say you could certainly make yourself more convincing. Maybe i should read your thread,maybe i haven't given you the chance you deserve. But you are the one making these claims and as such i feel you have failed in your "sacred duties" by not being convincing enough, report THAT back to your elders.

Namaste

Here we go again lol



Why, thank you for the compliment. The people on ATS didn’t think as much, too many Spelling Errors, they complained. Well I wish they would try typing as fast as they can for 4 hours straight, then we'll see who can spell. And what else do you want, it on ABC Nightly News? Most people have no idea how much they are being manipulated, and ignorance is not bliss. Just picture that on ABC News Press Conference, "Hello all, I come to share with you things from of a Bloodline that has been ruling your kind from the Underground Shadows of ************(Cant say). I know you may not of heard of us but they have been controlling your kind since before your great-great-great grandmother was born. They are responsible for all the, non environmental, atrocities you have witnessed. We control you in various ways, through your so called "Religions", "Governments, "Committees", "Media", "Financial Institutions" (by far the best enslavement method ever devised. They have had you kind killed and maimed, so they can help you..Let me explain.."

Yeah, I imagine that would go over will with the Public



Please, my friend, you did not offend me. To offend me is all but impossible.I have no problems with you, you sure seem like a nice guy now . I never said you had to believe me, infact I stated quite the opposite. Your opinion, is well, your opinion. I'm glad you took the time to read through all long thread (I even think its too long). Even past that dreadful first day(Which I should have caught my mistake sooner).

As for some calling what I said the "Grand Truth", they would do well not to. Its not 100% accurate and it was never meant to be. "AC13 (Insider 2005)" was not 100% accurate. "Hidden Hand" was not 100%. And Neither was mine. There is a good reason why we told you to take what resonates and discard the rest, because if you take everything, you are certain to be wrong. Besides the core of what we said was on point 100%, and its the most imporant part. The rest is relatively unimportant. We did not intend to mislead, its just that we had insufficient knowledge at the time it was released. Progression expands to all beings, not just Humanity, Old Chap. (I finished reading The Great Gatsby the other day..I think the title should be renamed The Tragedy of Gatsby..)

Yeah, I like the way he typed as well, but I am positive he used a Spell Checker. (I didn’t) Also, he took his sweet time answering posts, while I was trying to be Speedy Gonzales lol. I really should have taken my time, but that would have lessened the amount of questions I would have been able to answer. The question posed to me was one of choice: Articulate and Spelling Accurate, but less questions or Sacrifice some Spelling and be Simple as possible and answer more questions. I chose the latter

I spend my time as I wish. Nobody controls me. Can tell me what to do, but I dont have to listen. The beauty of Free Will, one could suppose.



lol, yeah I am younger. From what I know Hidden Hand is in his 40's or 50's. Never met the guy though, although I would like to.

I am not here to answer questions, sorry bud.

All this time I wondered what was happening to my semen. Now I know why my little likenesses were not getting through the eye of my needle. Too short a distance for them so they were never that well traveled.


Which pleasure box is the best to be in? If reuniting with the "ONE" is the goal and is so special, happy, and unboring...why emanate back out only to travel back again. Of course one could say that each emanation is limitless, different, fresh, and new with the forgetting and all...but it sounds like it could be a Salmon run gone bad. "Now get on the deck and flop like a fish." ~ Spongebob Squarepants themesong. Is knowing everything only a brief pleasure experience and pleasure experience only pleasurable briefly? The Ein Sof looking for love in all the wrong places?

Dalet Shin

lol yes it was intended for illuminator13

Hey becks, is there a reason the Revelations of an Insider stuff was left out? Although there is not a lot in that first communication, is it not authentic?

As it should be. Have a good time on your Journey.

Thanks for the "Luck", although I dont believe in that, I am sure it is positive in meaning so I wish you "Luck" also!

does it really matter if illuminator13 is "real" bloodline or not, or is it about what he knows/believes?

he can never tell you his real name if he was, and if he did it would be a name you never heard of and won't find much about probably. i myself come from a family which can be traced back to the roman empire, but the family name is changed often over such a period.

and even when he is bloodline and he can prove it, this still does not mean he knows ultimate truth, he might believe that to be so, but that still does not make it "truth" but just what he "believes"

only YOU can find truth!

thank you and your right its a general term i use sorry to hear you are going .I may not agree

with you but It does give one something to ponder. cheers