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Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:31 am » by Dirttyrabbit
Highest Strangeness - Body Containers
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1 ... nvironment
“I got the impression that the aliens do not like to do this
soul transfer (to cloned body containers) very often.”
- Linda Porter, California Abductee
Return to Part 1
February 2, 2010 Albuquerque, New Mexico - The Tarbrax, Scotland, abduction case of August 17, 1992, detailed in 012810 Part 2-Earthfiles, includes Colin Wright's description of being encased in a clear, cylinder. I encountered descriptions of clear cylinder containers for bodies, both human and non-human, in my human abduction investigations of the early 1990s. The “resurrection technology” is described in depth and with illustrations in my third book, Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. II: High Strangeness © 1998. Please see Earthfiles Shop.
Porterville, California - 1963 Abduction
The first week of March 1991, I received a brown, legal-sized envelope by Certified Mail postmarked February 28, 1991, from Porterville, California. The envelope contained an audiocassette, letter and drawings from a woman named Linda Porter. Linda was born in 1946 and began having memorable experiences with non-human intelligences by age 12 in 1958.
Linda was an educated person struggling to understand a life full of phenomena that did not fit acceptable categories of reality. She had decided it was important to reach me after hearing a conference presentation I had given in California concerning eyewitness testimony about non-human intelligences interacting with our planet. She was concerned about her vulnerability as a person caught up in the human abduction syndrome and was frightened about the United States government's policy of suppressing the alien presence.
In her letter, she wrote:
“We (abductees) are caught in the middle of a series of ongoing events that will one day prove to be historically significant to the future of the Earth. Unfortunately, because of our continuing, non-voluntary interactions with these beings, we have, in a sense, become victims of both sides of the phenomena.
On the one hand, we are used by the aliens for their own purposes, whatever those purposes might be. On the other, if we speak out, we risk ridicule from the public, and in some cases, possible harassment and/or intimidation by government and military personnel.”
I put Linda Porter's audiocassette in my tape player and heard the following about an encounter she had when she was 17-years-old in 1963 in Porterville, California: “I was shown a room with very tall, clear, tube-like containers or cylinders on a raised platform, which seemed to be at the center of the room. Inside these tubes - standing upright, naked, and appearing to be asleep - were humans, or at least they looked human to me. They looked like they were in some kind of suspended animation.
“I don't think they were dead because their color was too good. They were floating in what appeared to be a purple gas. It was very thick and hard to see through, but it swirled around so much that you could see the people as it moved.”
I wrote to her asking for illustrations, if possible, and she sent another envelope with a letter and the color sketches below.
Linda Porter said she was taken by a “grey scientist” to a room where three people were in tubes.
She felt the people were alive, but in a state of suspended animation and that the man on far right
was a younger clone activated by a “soul transfer” from his previous older body that Linda watched
die in a rectangular container. Drawing by Linda Porter for Linda Moulton Howe © 1991.
Linda Porter: “My sketches relate to the following - I was taken into ‘the room of light’ and shown a man about forty-six-years-old, who was very close to death. He was lying in a clear, rectangular container.
I do not remember the mechanics of how this was done, but his soul was then lifted up out of his dying body! It left the body in the area of the solar plexus (behind stomach organ). It was about 2.5-feet-long, five inches wide and was a breathtakingly beautiful, soft, iridescent yellow with a white, glowing inner core that radiated a very gentle heat. There was a pastel orange layer around the yellow.
Linda Porter's depiction of dying man's “soul” lifting out of his solar plexus
and floating across the room to enter the younger clone of the same man.
Illustration for Linda Moulton Howe by Linda Porter © 1991.
The soul floated across the room to another body that looked like the man would have appeared at about twenty-five years of age. The new body appeared empty. I don't know any other way to describe it - like an empty container. The ‘old body’ was now bluish in color and obviously dead.
The soul floated above the new body, which was standing upright outside the tube, unsupported, and slumping forward a little. It then descended, entering the body at the top of the back of the head, all the way down to the area midway between the shoulder blades. It then merged into the body totally and settled in front of the spinal column in the area of the solar plexus.
It then seemed to stretch itself out longer, a few inches up, a few inches down. The body at this point took on an ‘occupied’ look as if the person were merely asleep.
The rectangular container that held the 'old' vacant body filled up with a liquid to preserve the tissues until it could be dissected. The aliens wanted to find out how some kind of poison had entered the man's body, how it had progressed through the bodily systems, and at what point the poison (contaminant) had reached a level that the body could no longer deal with the poison.
After the dissection, I was told that the body would be discarded. ... The aliens think our concept of funerals is barbarous. To them there is no difference between an empty beer can and an empty body.
I was told that the (resurrected) cloned man would be relocated elsewhere (maybe Australia) and would continue on with his life. Part of the reason they take tissue samples from abductees when they are quite young is to have this tissue in reserve in case a new body becomes necessary later on.
New bodies can be stored indefinitely. The containers in the sketch with the three people in the tubes are storage containers. The containers in both sketches I sent you are ‘activation’ containers. These have a light in the top that must be on the person/body for (unknown) amount of hours before a body can be activated - if a body has been in storage. If a newly made body, it does not need light. In the sketch with the three people in the tubes, the body on the far right was the (younger) one given to the man (who died).
I got the impression that the aliens do not like to do this soul transfer (to cloned body containers) very often. Actually, I got the feeling they're not supposed to be doing this at all.
But the aliens seemed to be backed into a corner and have no other recourse. They also seem to be trying to hide all this from some 'higher' form of life - whatever the ‘authority’ is that prohibits this soul transfer also prohibits them from interfering on this planet. (Aren't they interfering?) Whoever it is that prohibits is much higher evolved than the aliens are and wields a great deal of power over many, many other realms of existence.”
Pennsylvania Turnpike - 1978 Abduction
The huge room filled with tall and shorter humanoid bodies (abductee Wanna Lawson thought there was
a mixture of humans and non-humans). The short, plump abductee female was transferred
into a tall, thin preserved body and explored the craft with another tall, male humanoid.
She did not understand how the transfer from her body into the cloned body
was made. Illustration by L. Hoffman for Linda Moulton Howe © 1992.
Wanna Lawson: “We walked through the ship. And we ended up in this humongous room with tubes. The walls were lined with these tubes. They appeared to be glass, but they weren't glass. The tubes were about 2-feet-wide and about 8 feet high. Cylinder tubes. Round. Wide enough to hold the tall, grey-white (other) bodies. ... And now, I change bodies (with tall, thin, dark-haired female in tube). But how I did it, I don't know. The only thing I can remember is that it was my 'other body' - that was known to the tall male humanoid guiding me.”
Lansing, Michigan - 1992 Abduction
1992 Lansing, Michigan, abductee, Ken Rose, said during one of his encounters
with non-humans, he saw three incomplete female bodies in clear, cylindrical tubes
that were coated with gold dust that reminded him of the woman in the Hollywood
feature film, Goldfinger. Illustration © for Linda Moulton Howe by Ken Rose.
Ken Rose: “I don't know how I got there (in craft), but these little grey things took me where there were three ladies inside tubes. It was a little, round room that was all dark except around the tubes where it was lighted. There was some kind of dim light inside the tubes. It was an eggshell white light, so beautiful, but it smelled like acid-sweet pure vanilla and made me nauseous. ... The three women were all covered in gold metallic dust. ... One of the grey things said, ‘They're under construction.’ They were alive, but not awake.”
Military Intelligence Comments
about Body Containers and Souls
I met two men in 1985, who claimed to have government insider knowledge about an extraterrestrial civilization in the binary star system, Zeta Reticuli, 37.5 light-years from Earth. I have combined their information into one “voice” that I call Sherman. Our dialogues are detailed in pages 128 - 144, in Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. II: High Strangeness. But for this Earthfiles report about the phenomenon of body containers and “soul transfers,” I will focus here on Sherman's comments about non-human genetic manipulation of Earth life. The subjects are “extraterrestrial biological entities,” Ebens, and Blond Humanoids that “can make robots or androids that can be anything they want them to be. Both groups know how to mix and match genomes in DNA easily. Remember, they are millions of years advanced beyond us.
“And souls are interconnected in some way. I think the Ebens told us that because they have been around so long, they have learned that there are only so many souls in this universe, which must be recycled.”
Linda: “If there is a finite number of souls in the universe and the Ebens know that and yet we are living on a planet in which there is an exponential increase in the number of bodies, does that imply that not all bodies can have souls?”
Sherman: “I don't know. All I do know is that the soul - when the body container dies - the soul contains or maintains or keeps some thoughts or something from that life that was just lived. ... It said in the Yellow Book (allegedly a 3-dimensional projecting “book” about Ebens and humans) that the Ebens are concerned about human souls if our particular species continued on its course. The Ebens are afraid we would damage our container bodies and that could damage the souls. ... That was why the Ebens were so concerned with what we have been doing, the wars and so forth. They are afraid that the souls will be damaged by our human containers.
“One of the Mj-12 guys, who had seen more of the Yellow Book, talked to me about an analogy. He said that when you put something in a container and you pour it out, there's always some residue that remains. Something remains in that soul, so when you pass the soul on in different containers, it picks up the residues of all the different containers it has been in and a little of each remains and stays throughout the soul's evolution. I guess there's an eternity, there's no end. That's a question I asked him: ‘Does the soul wear out after so many recycles?’ He said, ‘No, souls never wear out. The Supreme Being makes sure that doesn't happen.’
Linda: “Sherman, some abductees say that the main reason for the animal mutilations and human abductions has to do with the creation of a hybrid species. But no one knows whether the hybrids are supposed to replace the current Homo sapiens container model. There is a sense that whatever the non-humans are up to, it has something to do with survival - theirs and ours.”
Sherman: “Maybe. All I know is that the Ebens are supposed to have manipulated DNA in primates long before humans were created. So there must have been a series of experiments like Neanderthal before Cro-Magnon. And Neanderthal's gone. So who knows what's on the agenda for humans?”
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1 ... nvironment
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“I got the impression that the aliens do not like to do this
soul transfer (to cloned body containers) very often.”
- Linda Porter, California Abductee
Return to Part 1
February 2, 2010 Albuquerque, New Mexico - The Tarbrax, Scotland, abduction case of August 17, 1992, detailed in 012810 Part 2-Earthfiles, includes Colin Wright's description of being encased in a clear, cylinder. I encountered descriptions of clear cylinder containers for bodies, both human and non-human, in my human abduction investigations of the early 1990s. The “resurrection technology” is described in depth and with illustrations in my third book, Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. II: High Strangeness © 1998. Please see Earthfiles Shop.
Porterville, California - 1963 Abduction
The first week of March 1991, I received a brown, legal-sized envelope by Certified Mail postmarked February 28, 1991, from Porterville, California. The envelope contained an audiocassette, letter and drawings from a woman named Linda Porter. Linda was born in 1946 and began having memorable experiences with non-human intelligences by age 12 in 1958.
Linda was an educated person struggling to understand a life full of phenomena that did not fit acceptable categories of reality. She had decided it was important to reach me after hearing a conference presentation I had given in California concerning eyewitness testimony about non-human intelligences interacting with our planet. She was concerned about her vulnerability as a person caught up in the human abduction syndrome and was frightened about the United States government's policy of suppressing the alien presence.
In her letter, she wrote:
“We (abductees) are caught in the middle of a series of ongoing events that will one day prove to be historically significant to the future of the Earth. Unfortunately, because of our continuing, non-voluntary interactions with these beings, we have, in a sense, become victims of both sides of the phenomena.
On the one hand, we are used by the aliens for their own purposes, whatever those purposes might be. On the other, if we speak out, we risk ridicule from the public, and in some cases, possible harassment and/or intimidation by government and military personnel.”
I put Linda Porter's audiocassette in my tape player and heard the following about an encounter she had when she was 17-years-old in 1963 in Porterville, California: “I was shown a room with very tall, clear, tube-like containers or cylinders on a raised platform, which seemed to be at the center of the room. Inside these tubes - standing upright, naked, and appearing to be asleep - were humans, or at least they looked human to me. They looked like they were in some kind of suspended animation.
“I don't think they were dead because their color was too good. They were floating in what appeared to be a purple gas. It was very thick and hard to see through, but it swirled around so much that you could see the people as it moved.”
I wrote to her asking for illustrations, if possible, and she sent another envelope with a letter and the color sketches below.
Linda Porter said she was taken by a “grey scientist” to a room where three people were in tubes.
She felt the people were alive, but in a state of suspended animation and that the man on far right
was a younger clone activated by a “soul transfer” from his previous older body that Linda watched
die in a rectangular container. Drawing by Linda Porter for Linda Moulton Howe © 1991.
Linda Porter: “My sketches relate to the following - I was taken into ‘the room of light’ and shown a man about forty-six-years-old, who was very close to death. He was lying in a clear, rectangular container.
I do not remember the mechanics of how this was done, but his soul was then lifted up out of his dying body! It left the body in the area of the solar plexus (behind stomach organ). It was about 2.5-feet-long, five inches wide and was a breathtakingly beautiful, soft, iridescent yellow with a white, glowing inner core that radiated a very gentle heat. There was a pastel orange layer around the yellow.
Linda Porter's depiction of dying man's “soul” lifting out of his solar plexus
and floating across the room to enter the younger clone of the same man.
Illustration for Linda Moulton Howe by Linda Porter © 1991.
The soul floated across the room to another body that looked like the man would have appeared at about twenty-five years of age. The new body appeared empty. I don't know any other way to describe it - like an empty container. The ‘old body’ was now bluish in color and obviously dead.
The soul floated above the new body, which was standing upright outside the tube, unsupported, and slumping forward a little. It then descended, entering the body at the top of the back of the head, all the way down to the area midway between the shoulder blades. It then merged into the body totally and settled in front of the spinal column in the area of the solar plexus.
It then seemed to stretch itself out longer, a few inches up, a few inches down. The body at this point took on an ‘occupied’ look as if the person were merely asleep.
The rectangular container that held the 'old' vacant body filled up with a liquid to preserve the tissues until it could be dissected. The aliens wanted to find out how some kind of poison had entered the man's body, how it had progressed through the bodily systems, and at what point the poison (contaminant) had reached a level that the body could no longer deal with the poison.
After the dissection, I was told that the body would be discarded. ... The aliens think our concept of funerals is barbarous. To them there is no difference between an empty beer can and an empty body.
I was told that the (resurrected) cloned man would be relocated elsewhere (maybe Australia) and would continue on with his life. Part of the reason they take tissue samples from abductees when they are quite young is to have this tissue in reserve in case a new body becomes necessary later on.
New bodies can be stored indefinitely. The containers in the sketch with the three people in the tubes are storage containers. The containers in both sketches I sent you are ‘activation’ containers. These have a light in the top that must be on the person/body for (unknown) amount of hours before a body can be activated - if a body has been in storage. If a newly made body, it does not need light. In the sketch with the three people in the tubes, the body on the far right was the (younger) one given to the man (who died).
I got the impression that the aliens do not like to do this soul transfer (to cloned body containers) very often. Actually, I got the feeling they're not supposed to be doing this at all.
But the aliens seemed to be backed into a corner and have no other recourse. They also seem to be trying to hide all this from some 'higher' form of life - whatever the ‘authority’ is that prohibits this soul transfer also prohibits them from interfering on this planet. (Aren't they interfering?) Whoever it is that prohibits is much higher evolved than the aliens are and wields a great deal of power over many, many other realms of existence.”
Pennsylvania Turnpike - 1978 Abduction
The huge room filled with tall and shorter humanoid bodies (abductee Wanna Lawson thought there was
a mixture of humans and non-humans). The short, plump abductee female was transferred
into a tall, thin preserved body and explored the craft with another tall, male humanoid.
She did not understand how the transfer from her body into the cloned body
was made. Illustration by L. Hoffman for Linda Moulton Howe © 1992.
Wanna Lawson: “We walked through the ship. And we ended up in this humongous room with tubes. The walls were lined with these tubes. They appeared to be glass, but they weren't glass. The tubes were about 2-feet-wide and about 8 feet high. Cylinder tubes. Round. Wide enough to hold the tall, grey-white (other) bodies. ... And now, I change bodies (with tall, thin, dark-haired female in tube). But how I did it, I don't know. The only thing I can remember is that it was my 'other body' - that was known to the tall male humanoid guiding me.”
Lansing, Michigan - 1992 Abduction
1992 Lansing, Michigan, abductee, Ken Rose, said during one of his encounters
with non-humans, he saw three incomplete female bodies in clear, cylindrical tubes
that were coated with gold dust that reminded him of the woman in the Hollywood
feature film, Goldfinger. Illustration © for Linda Moulton Howe by Ken Rose.
Ken Rose: “I don't know how I got there (in craft), but these little grey things took me where there were three ladies inside tubes. It was a little, round room that was all dark except around the tubes where it was lighted. There was some kind of dim light inside the tubes. It was an eggshell white light, so beautiful, but it smelled like acid-sweet pure vanilla and made me nauseous. ... The three women were all covered in gold metallic dust. ... One of the grey things said, ‘They're under construction.’ They were alive, but not awake.”
Military Intelligence Comments
about Body Containers and Souls
I met two men in 1985, who claimed to have government insider knowledge about an extraterrestrial civilization in the binary star system, Zeta Reticuli, 37.5 light-years from Earth. I have combined their information into one “voice” that I call Sherman. Our dialogues are detailed in pages 128 - 144, in Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. II: High Strangeness. But for this Earthfiles report about the phenomenon of body containers and “soul transfers,” I will focus here on Sherman's comments about non-human genetic manipulation of Earth life. The subjects are “extraterrestrial biological entities,” Ebens, and Blond Humanoids that “can make robots or androids that can be anything they want them to be. Both groups know how to mix and match genomes in DNA easily. Remember, they are millions of years advanced beyond us.
“And souls are interconnected in some way. I think the Ebens told us that because they have been around so long, they have learned that there are only so many souls in this universe, which must be recycled.”
Linda: “If there is a finite number of souls in the universe and the Ebens know that and yet we are living on a planet in which there is an exponential increase in the number of bodies, does that imply that not all bodies can have souls?”
Sherman: “I don't know. All I do know is that the soul - when the body container dies - the soul contains or maintains or keeps some thoughts or something from that life that was just lived. ... It said in the Yellow Book (allegedly a 3-dimensional projecting “book” about Ebens and humans) that the Ebens are concerned about human souls if our particular species continued on its course. The Ebens are afraid we would damage our container bodies and that could damage the souls. ... That was why the Ebens were so concerned with what we have been doing, the wars and so forth. They are afraid that the souls will be damaged by our human containers.
“One of the Mj-12 guys, who had seen more of the Yellow Book, talked to me about an analogy. He said that when you put something in a container and you pour it out, there's always some residue that remains. Something remains in that soul, so when you pass the soul on in different containers, it picks up the residues of all the different containers it has been in and a little of each remains and stays throughout the soul's evolution. I guess there's an eternity, there's no end. That's a question I asked him: ‘Does the soul wear out after so many recycles?’ He said, ‘No, souls never wear out. The Supreme Being makes sure that doesn't happen.’
Linda: “Sherman, some abductees say that the main reason for the animal mutilations and human abductions has to do with the creation of a hybrid species. But no one knows whether the hybrids are supposed to replace the current Homo sapiens container model. There is a sense that whatever the non-humans are up to, it has something to do with survival - theirs and ours.”
Sherman: “Maybe. All I know is that the Ebens are supposed to have manipulated DNA in primates long before humans were created. So there must have been a series of experiments like Neanderthal before Cro-Magnon. And Neanderthal's gone. So who knows what's on the agenda for humans?”
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:25 am » by Spock
Excellent post. I read much I have ideas on, or things that correlate. But my wife is dragging my ass off to walk right now. And then I'll want to find a video that interests me.
It's the stuff about the solar plexus.
It's the stuff about the solar plexus.
ATHEISM:
The belief there was once absolutely nothing. Nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing exploded into everything. Then all of the exploded everything rearranged itself, into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs.
The belief there was once absolutely nothing. Nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing exploded into everything. Then all of the exploded everything rearranged itself, into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs.
Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:41 am » by Giusdude
i don't know.....
skeptical to the point that i feel almost like an asshole trying to burst someone else's bubble...and that is not my intention, at all.
but i keep hearing about people being in touch with "beings" from other worlds, other universes, other galaxies and so on. and the best they can do is sell books about it?????
and the 46yo guy dies, and he gets a 25yo body, and they move him to australia? that's it?
one minute he's sick and 46, the minute after he's 25 and healty and he's in australia? WTF???
what about passport, education, job, friends etc. etc.???
or do they also give hm a prefabricated life to go along with a prefabricated body?
and why only him, and not the entire sick population?
Sherman, the Ebens, superior beings....
maybe it's just me. too small minded to understand something sooooooo big.
or maybe i just need to get abducted myself to change my mind about all of this. or to make a few bucks.
peace.
skeptical to the point that i feel almost like an asshole trying to burst someone else's bubble...and that is not my intention, at all.
but i keep hearing about people being in touch with "beings" from other worlds, other universes, other galaxies and so on. and the best they can do is sell books about it?????
and the 46yo guy dies, and he gets a 25yo body, and they move him to australia? that's it?
one minute he's sick and 46, the minute after he's 25 and healty and he's in australia? WTF???
what about passport, education, job, friends etc. etc.???
or do they also give hm a prefabricated life to go along with a prefabricated body?
and why only him, and not the entire sick population?
Sherman, the Ebens, superior beings....
maybe it's just me. too small minded to understand something sooooooo big.
or maybe i just need to get abducted myself to change my mind about all of this. or to make a few bucks.
peace.
as long as there's one idiot around wlling to believe bullshit, there will be a bullshitter
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:50 am » by Dirttyrabbit
@giusdude
I found the story last night by accident I thought it was interesting... so I said post it see what others think. its just interesting to me that's all don't know if any of this story is true...
but about soul switching thing......I wouldn't doubt this at all....
Oh btw I hear through the grape vine one could be standing right by you and you would never know...
*insert twilight zone music here*
I found the story last night by accident I thought it was interesting... so I said post it see what others think. its just interesting to me that's all don't know if any of this story is true...
but about soul switching thing......I wouldn't doubt this at all....
Oh btw I hear through the grape vine one could be standing right by you and you would never know...
*insert twilight zone music here*
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:03 am » by Giusdude
dirttyrabbit wrote:@giusdude
I found the story last night by accident I thought it was interesting... so I said post it see what others think. its just interesting to me that's all don't know if any of this story is true...
but about soul switching thing......I wouldn't doubt this at all....
Oh btw I hear through the grape vine one could be standing right by you and you would never know...
*insert twilight zone music here*
Rabbit: yes, it's an interesting story, absolutely so. but, and again i hope i'm not offending anybody, to me it's just that: a STORY. like fiction, you know? it will take a lot more than a couple of people that swear by it to convince me otherwise. it will take EVIDENCE for me to say "fuck, i was soooo wrong about this..."
and it bothers me, a whole fucking lot to be honest, that there are indeed people that buy into this (and i mean literally buy by shelling $$$$ to buy books, tapes and tickets to "conferences") without a second tought.
it makes me mad.
but then again, who knows?
mayb one day they will take me away, and i'll come back 6 feet tall and smart and handsome!
peace, lady.
as long as there's one idiot around wlling to believe bullshit, there will be a bullshitter
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:18 pm » by Nervousnjerky
There is a scifi channel movie about this , I am sorry but I can't remember the name. P.S. I saw there boobies.hehe.
Perspective is everything.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50236871
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50236871
Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:13 pm » by Elnorel
Linda did the interview. This story originates from http://www.earthfiles.com.
Im a member there so I know every story from there.
What you posted is not complete by a long stretch.
And yes its a compelling story to say the least.
It reads about 1hr long.
Think you need to be a member there to read it all. Not sure.
Im a member there so I know every story from there.
What you posted is not complete by a long stretch.
And yes its a compelling story to say the least.
It reads about 1hr long.
Think you need to be a member there to read it all. Not sure.
SKEPTIC - One who instinctively or habitually doubts, questions, disagrees with assertions or generally accepted conclusions. And tries to prove these assertions/claims with scientific facts.
Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:07 pm » by Sheeple
Chris Capps, 2/16/10, http://www.unexplainable.net/Simply-Unexplainable/Resurrected-Man-Claimed.shtml wrote:Resurrected Man Claimed by Two Families
A man who has allegedly come back from the dead after being murdered is being fought over by two families, each claiming him as their own son in Transkei. The man is being called Siviwe Ntwalana, a man who was murdered five years ago and also Lakitha Zokufa after another deceased son who allegedly came back from the dead. The story is too strange for fiction.
The man in dispute is currently residing at Mthatha General Hospital Mental Clinic under the name Lakitha Zokufa. Apparently the man with two names' testimony, when present, is not applicable in this situation, but it seems he isn't particularly sure himself which of the families is correct. Interestingly, there is no real gain for either family financially for getting their son back, and both are convinced enough by their son's presence that they are willing to pay for the otherwise strange man's medical fees.
Both parties are also so convinced that they are willing to pay for DNA tests to find out who the man is truly related to, and they're willing to match his fingerprints as well. This case is truly strange as both seem to have a convincing story leading their son back home to them. It seems this is one of the strangest cases of mistaken identity ever put forward, as both believe the man is their son and neither can explain how he is here.
The grief stricken families are ever convinced any investigation into the matter will lead investigators to the incontrovertible truth that the man is indeed each family's dead son.
"People do resurface after being confirmed dead and reburied," said Zamikhaya Ntwalana, one of the hopeful relatives, "Something similar did happen twice in Qokolweni in 1994 and then again in 1997." Indeed there have been many more rumored cases of life after death, particularly involving sons who died under mysterious or violent circumstances. One such case involved a fisherman in the United States in New Orleans who contracted a mysterious illness and was buried, only to be found walking about the town years later with no recollection of who he was. As his coffin was examined, it was discovered that it contained no body. This was before DNA tests, but the man did eventually recall his memory, but to this day does not know how he escaped death or his tomb. The story has spawned hundreds of others like it and even several books and films.
But what of this newest case? It doesn't seem anyone truly gains anything from deception, therefore it seems no scam would really have any motivation. And considering the drastic implications of the case, and the expense each party is willing to go through, it only adds to how unexplainable this story truly is. Who will the resurrected man turn out to be related to? As details are released we will keep you up to date. Until then, the man's identity remains utterly unexplainable.
Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:34 pm » by Giusdude
sheeple wrote:Chris Capps, 2/16/10, http://www.unexplainable.net/Simply-Unexplainable/Resurrected-Man-Claimed.shtml wrote:Resurrected Man Claimed by Two Families
A man who has allegedly come back from the dead after being murdered is being fought over by two families, each claiming him as their own son in Transkei. The man is being called Siviwe Ntwalana, a man who was murdered five years ago and also Lakitha Zokufa after another deceased son who allegedly came back from the dead. The story is too strange for fiction.
The man in dispute is currently residing at Mthatha General Hospital Mental Clinic under the name Lakitha Zokufa. Apparently the man with two names' testimony, when present, is not applicable in this situation, but it seems he isn't particularly sure himself which of the families is correct. Interestingly, there is no real gain for either family financially for getting their son back, and both are convinced enough by their son's presence that they are willing to pay for the otherwise strange man's medical fees.
Both parties are also so convinced that they are willing to pay for DNA tests to find out who the man is truly related to, and they're willing to match his fingerprints as well. This case is truly strange as both seem to have a convincing story leading their son back home to them. It seems this is one of the strangest cases of mistaken identity ever put forward, as both believe the man is their son and neither can explain how he is here.
The grief stricken families are ever convinced any investigation into the matter will lead investigators to the incontrovertible truth that the man is indeed each family's dead son.
"People do resurface after being confirmed dead and reburied," said Zamikhaya Ntwalana, one of the hopeful relatives, "Something similar did happen twice in Qokolweni in 1994 and then again in 1997." Indeed there have been many more rumored cases of life after death, particularly involving sons who died under mysterious or violent circumstances. One such case involved a fisherman in the United States in New Orleans who contracted a mysterious illness and was buried, only to be found walking about the town years later with no recollection of who he was. As his coffin was examined, it was discovered that it contained no body. This was before DNA tests, but the man did eventually recall his memory, but to this day does not know how he escaped death or his tomb. The story has spawned hundreds of others like it and even several books and films.
But what of this newest case? It doesn't seem anyone truly gains anything from deception, therefore it seems no scam would really have any motivation. And considering the drastic implications of the case, and the expense each party is willing to go through, it only adds to how unexplainable this story truly is. Who will the resurrected man turn out to be related to? As details are released we will keep you up to date. Until then, the man's identity remains utterly unexplainable.
mmmmhhhhhh...................... i'm sorry, where the fuck is this place exactly?????
Mthatha General Hospital Mental Clinic
ahhhh, i get it, it's in Qokolweni . of course.
and where the hell is that?????
LOL, this "reports" make my day.
as long as there's one idiot around wlling to believe bullshit, there will be a bullshitter
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