History lesson -Communism, mass deaths, the Gulag system

Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:30 pm » by **Illuminated**

a good vid presented in a 'teaching style'
the info is accurate but many historical horrific details are not covered in this ..

he mentions the ukraine Famine - look it up - stalin sold it on the international market to pay down foreign debts (bankers) while he let millions of people starve.

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'Shocking Sadistic Slaughter!

If you're not in a religious system, chances are you will be in a secular one. And for those that are, events laid out in this video, even though they occurred decades ago, are nonetheless cited as a warning for people to seriously examine themselves, in light of Holy Scripture. Whether you are a Nazi (fascist) or a socialist (communist), both are in reality the same thing and neither can forgive More.. a man his sin against God. Only Jesus is worth following, defending and even dying for.'

Video
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e1_1280568139

Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:30 pm » by **Illuminated**

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now check these out

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Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:36 pm » by **Realorfake**

Jesus is worth dying for?

Correct me if Im wrong but I was told that Jesus died for us... not us for him...

Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:56 pm » by **Slith**

realorfake wrote:Jesus is worth dying for?

Correct me if Im wrong but I was told that Jesus died for us... not us for him...

You beat me to it ROF, and now I will beat myself into submission, cause I'm too slow.

I respect peoples beliefs. Jesus has been written about in many cultures. He is the Messiah (Christian), he's been a major prophet (Islam), he has been denounced by his own people as a fake Messiah (Jews), and even written about in India.http://www.sol.com.au/kor/7_01.htm.

Is anything worth dying for? No! Live your life and let it end naturally. And live it for yourself, your family and your friends. Not for someone who hasn't shown up for over 2000 years. BTW, anyone seen God lately?

Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:11 pm » by **Illuminated**

realorfake wrote:Jesus is worth dying for?

Correct me if Im wrong but I was told that Jesus died for us... not us for him...

I didn't even get that out of watching it...? :headscratch:

just the historical implications

Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:11 pm » by **Realorfake**

dlslith wrote:Is anything worth dying for? No! Live your life and let it end naturally. And live it for yourself, your family and your friends. Not for someone who hasn't shown up for over 2000 years. BTW, anyone seen God lately?

precisely slith...

Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:24 pm » by **Slith**

realorfake wrote:
dlslith wrote:Is anything worth dying for? No! Live your life and let it end naturally. And live it for yourself, your family and your friends. Not for someone who hasn't shown up for over 2000 years. BTW, anyone seen God lately?

precisely slith...

Cheers mon ami! :flop:

Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:10 am » by **Illuminated**

dlslith wrote:
realorfake wrote:Jesus is worth dying for?

Correct me if Im wrong but I was told that Jesus died for us... not us for him...

You beat me to it ROF, and now I will beat myself into submission, cause I'm too slow.

I respect peoples beliefs. Jesus has been written about in many cultures. He is the Messiah (Christian), he's been a major prophet (Islam), he has been denounced by his own people as a fake Messiah (Jews), and even written about in India.http://www.sol.com.au/kor/7_01.htm.

Is anything worth dying for? No! Live your life and let it end naturally. And live it for yourself, your family and your friends. Not for someone who hasn't shown up for over 2000 years. BTW, anyone seen God lately?

hey no dissrespect, but how defeatest - and a few other things- of you.
There most certainly Are things that are worth dying for. defending the life of a Family member as just One example. I guess we are defined by our early experiences!? before the age of 10 I was placed in situations where that choice was required, and made by me without thought! I defended my home, I stood infront of that gun sheilding my 4year old brother & my mom as best as i could. but stress is stressful & i now carry the guilt of could i have saved that guy from burning to death in his car? probably, maybe, but i'll never know - cause he wasn't my family - you see. mind you the fk'n 911 also could've taken me seriously and sent some one on the 1st call! :dunno:

Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:35 am » by **Realorfake**

illuminated wrote:hey no dissrespect, but how defeatest - and a few other things- of you.
There most certainly Are things that are worth dying for. defending the life of a Family member as just One example. I guess we are defined by our early experiences!? before the age of 10 I was placed in situations where that choice was required, and made by me without thought! I defended my home, I stood infront of that gun sheilding my 4year old brother & my mom as best as i could. but stress is stressful & i now carry the guilt of could i have saved that guy from burning to death in his car? probably, maybe, but i'll never know - cause he wasn't my family - you see. mind you the fk'n 911 also could've taken me seriously and sent some one on the 1st call!

Im quite sure if Slith's family, friends, loved ones were in danger he would not stand aside... you fail to grasp what he was saying. Any one life is of far greater importance than any one religion. And for any of us to die for one is a waste, immediately highlighting how grossly conflicting and antiethical organized religion still is...

but defeatest is such an easy word to throw at someone so please continue...

Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:25 am » by **Illuminated**

realorfake wrote:
Im quite sure if Slith's family, friends, loved ones were in danger he would not stand aside... you fail to grasp what he was saying. Any one life is of far greater importance than any one religion. And for any of us to die for one is a waste, immediately highlighting how grossly conflicting and antiethical organized religion still is...

but defeatest is such an easy word to throw at someone so please continue...

well maybe he'll pipe up for himself then :roll:

he didn't say 'nothing besides my family' he literally typed 'nothing is worth dying for' - i disagree with that. your points on religion i agree with. but when it comes to real fights as opposed to philosophy - the Devout (to the point of blowing your self up) Muslims have the bigge sack - which is why they are probably going to be the dominant culture in 30-50 years in the UK, barring genocide on them. I read alot of stuff about radical islam in canada too.

we're all literally apethetic by globalist design to not care - because 'nothing is worth dying for' - while the other cultures are fervantly devoted to their idiologies & beliefs. they literally have an army of Believers that will & do deploy or move on a number of leader figures 'suggestions' found on youtube ..the mecxicans are on the same game plan..

what are we doing - not caring. :think:

chew it over for a few -cause i don't know either of you, so its not a flame or personal thing