How did Jesus conjure up bread for 5000 people ?
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- Solomankane

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12 loaves they had left over
7 loaves they had left over
the number 12 and 7 had something to do with something .
how can we explain this? short of a miracal or a lie. So now i ask you to let me know your thoughts.
cheers
12 loaves they had left over
7 loaves they had left over
the number 12 and 7 had something to do with something .
how can we explain this? short of a miracal or a lie. So now i ask you to let me know your thoughts.
cheers
I think the parable of the feeding of the 5000 is quite simple..
IMO, the boy came forward with the food he had (five loaves and two fishes) and Jesus dude started passing it around. Others, who were feeling guilty that the boy had gave up his own food and they had selfishly concealed their own food supplies started taking their own out and adding it to what was being passed about. Hence there was enough food to go around.
The boy was probably a stooge of Jesus dude and it was an orchestrated psychological mind game which worked to stunning effect
IMO, the boy came forward with the food he had (five loaves and two fishes) and Jesus dude started passing it around. Others, who were feeling guilty that the boy had gave up his own food and they had selfishly concealed their own food supplies started taking their own out and adding it to what was being passed about. Hence there was enough food to go around.
The boy was probably a stooge of Jesus dude and it was an orchestrated psychological mind game which worked to stunning effect


- Solomankane

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It sounds like the stone soup storie ,every body had a little and it all added up.good job
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minuapate
Jesus could Minuapate Matter somehow? Did he turn rocks in to stone as he said he could do?
Or was it the Devil who told him to?
Can the Devil minuapate matter somehow to a limit.Remember he took Jesus to the pinnical of the cities,so he could (teleport)Him and Jesus there and back.
The Devil could not touch him !!!
So do spirits come into play theres one Holy Spirit waging war on the Devil and his fallen angels.?
Jesus could Minuapate Matter somehow? Did he turn rocks in to stone as he said he could do?
Or was it the Devil who told him to?
Can the Devil minuapate matter somehow to a limit.Remember he took Jesus to the pinnical of the cities,so he could (teleport)Him and Jesus there and back.
The Devil could not touch him !!!
So do spirits come into play theres one Holy Spirit waging war on the Devil and his fallen angels.?
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lainn wrote:The true nature of the 'Apple' from the 'Garden' and the 'Staff' that Moses possesed are keys to your query.
You got all the answers?
Tell us, don't be cryptic.....
According to the “Pesher Code” discovered to exist in the New Testament by Dr. Barbara Thiering, John Aquila was called the “5000”. The feeding of the “5000” is the record of John Aquila and his followers, being ordained as ministers under the liberal rule of Jonathan Annas.
Revelation 9:8 Friday March 21, 32 AD, at noon, the equinox . At the upper and middle floors at Ain Feshkha.
9:8 Jonathan Annas as Pope was liberal to Gentiles, and permitted the lowest class of Gentile, married and uncircumcised, to be ordained as ministers, John Aquila . as the 5000, was made a presbyter grade 5 at the Feeding of the 5000 in March 32 AD.

9: 8 kai eichon trichas hōs trichas gynaikōn. kai hoi odontes autōn hōs leontōn ēsan
9:8 And they (RLR to Horses Jonathan Annas) had (as deputy) hair (a headcloth covering the hair) as (and) hair (a veil) of Women (genitive, Helena). And the teeth (hardened bread fragments for Gentiles) of them (Horses) as (and) of Lions (genitive, Theudas) they (teeth) were.
9:8 Jonathan Annas as the Pope adopted the Zadokite headcloth and length of hair. (Ezekiel 44:20.) Celibate women of the Therapeuts wore veils the same length, but over their faces like Moses (1 Corinthians 11:5).
While Jewish ascetics were given holy bread that was baked fresh every day, uncircumcised Gentiles were given the leftover fragments (John 6:5-14 and parallels) that had hardened. The Chief Therapeut could give this kind of bread to proselytes.
March 32 AD was the season of the Feeding of the Five Thousand in the Gospels. It was the occasion when uncircumcised married Gentiles, led by John Aquila the 5000, were ordained as ministers under the liberal rule of Jonathan Annas.
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/index_WFW_section.html
Revelation 9:8 Friday March 21, 32 AD, at noon, the equinox . At the upper and middle floors at Ain Feshkha.
9:8 Jonathan Annas as Pope was liberal to Gentiles, and permitted the lowest class of Gentile, married and uncircumcised, to be ordained as ministers, John Aquila . as the 5000, was made a presbyter grade 5 at the Feeding of the 5000 in March 32 AD.

9: 8 kai eichon trichas hōs trichas gynaikōn. kai hoi odontes autōn hōs leontōn ēsan
9:8 And they (RLR to Horses Jonathan Annas) had (as deputy) hair (a headcloth covering the hair) as (and) hair (a veil) of Women (genitive, Helena). And the teeth (hardened bread fragments for Gentiles) of them (Horses) as (and) of Lions (genitive, Theudas) they (teeth) were.
9:8 Jonathan Annas as the Pope adopted the Zadokite headcloth and length of hair. (Ezekiel 44:20.) Celibate women of the Therapeuts wore veils the same length, but over their faces like Moses (1 Corinthians 11:5).
While Jewish ascetics were given holy bread that was baked fresh every day, uncircumcised Gentiles were given the leftover fragments (John 6:5-14 and parallels) that had hardened. The Chief Therapeut could give this kind of bread to proselytes.
March 32 AD was the season of the Feeding of the Five Thousand in the Gospels. It was the occasion when uncircumcised married Gentiles, led by John Aquila the 5000, were ordained as ministers under the liberal rule of Jonathan Annas.
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/index_WFW_section.html
More of the Pesher Code.
Bread; artos.
The sacred loaf , one of the 12 loaves of the Presence, eaten by monastics and by Therapeuts. The ceremony included breaking each loaf and giving it to be shared by two men.
Break; klaō.
With "loaf", to divide in two a full loaf used in the Jewish form of the sacred meal, to be shared between two men of equal grade sitting side by side. Luke 22:19. Gentiles received only the fragments and crumbs that fell during the process, and these became their bread of the sacred meal.
Twelve; dōdeka.
The structure of the missionary council of which Jesus was part was theoretically twelve plus a Gentile as 13th. John Mark as the 13th, the Gentile, was called the Twelve because the leader, the priest, was called a zero. Mark 3:16. John 20:24.
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/Reference.html
Bread; artos.
The sacred loaf , one of the 12 loaves of the Presence, eaten by monastics and by Therapeuts. The ceremony included breaking each loaf and giving it to be shared by two men.
Break; klaō.
With "loaf", to divide in two a full loaf used in the Jewish form of the sacred meal, to be shared between two men of equal grade sitting side by side. Luke 22:19. Gentiles received only the fragments and crumbs that fell during the process, and these became their bread of the sacred meal.
Twelve; dōdeka.
The structure of the missionary council of which Jesus was part was theoretically twelve plus a Gentile as 13th. John Mark as the 13th, the Gentile, was called the Twelve because the leader, the priest, was called a zero. Mark 3:16. John 20:24.
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/Reference.html
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