How To Make Iran Give Up its Nuclear Program

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PostFri Feb 17, 2012 2:21 pm » by Funkt33

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PostFri Feb 17, 2012 2:58 pm » by Dagnamski

Oh that's easy.

You drop a bomb on them and ask they if they liked it :roll:
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PostFri Feb 17, 2012 3:04 pm » by Funkt33

UN sanctions, assassinations, terror attacks and military threats – none of these stopped Iran working on its nuclear program. What is the mood in Iran’s scientific community? Are ordinary people scared, or is the pressure bringing consolidation?

Are you afraid of death, I ask two Iranian intellectuals?We had been discussing the situation in Iran for two hours. They can’t understand why I ask the question. They are both 30, they make documentaries, travelling across the country and getting to know fellow Iranians.

- Of course, says Mohseni. – Why do you ask? Death is the most important test of your life. You have to be prepared for it.

- Yes, I am, like all people are – Mohammed says after thinking for a minute. A believer fears death because he is concerned about dying the right way. About standing trial.

The paradox you see in Iran is that most people do not fear death itself so much as the “trial.” This is something that evades the hordes of journalists and analysts who talk about scaring the Iranian authorities into giving up their nuclear program.

When I say this and ask Mohseni and Mohammed if it is possible to scare Iranians with assassinations and terror attacks, they smile.

- The more they pressure us, the stronger we become. Just like any Islamic society and especially Iran. These people do not understand Iranians, – Mohseni says.

The phenomenon of praying scientists

His name is Amir and he is almost 50. His field of work is related to the nuclear program. He looks and behaves like a secular man, possessing that western sort of success along with a great sense of humor. If I had not spoken with him about it, I would never have guessed that he is religious. By no means does he show anything off, although one could guess, when he disappears.

Students Seeking Death

Three students of the Sharif University of Technology in Tehran – Amir, Kahashayar and Mehdad – do not produce the impression of devotees exhausted by prayer either. They were present at the funeral of Professor Ahmadi Rushan, killed in January on his way to work. It was decided to make a student film about how the world reacted to the scientist’s death. Not for money and not for a place in the sun.

- He died the death of a martyr. We are proud of this scientist. We are proud of our science and of our nuclear program. You won’t find an Iranian willing for the nuclear program to be halted. And you won’t find an Iranian who believes that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. What we would like to know is how come our scientists are being killed and nobody even offers their condolences to Iran.

Amir has got many friends from migrant families. They write letters to each other, visit Iran and keep in touch.

- The thing is that the Iranian nuclear program has been carried out since the 1970s, but no one seemed to be interested in it until recently. And now there is so much fuss around it. That’s strange. Young migrants are also for the Iranian nuclear program, just like us. It looks strange for the Americans that we take pride in our achievements and in our martyrs, but it’s clear for the Iranians. Our scientists trust in God. The more of them get killed, the more young people are eager to replace them, Amir says.

I asked him to explain the desire to become a suicide bomber to me.

- That’s Islam’s basic principle. There is life after death. And it is more important than that before death. It depends on what you deserve. But in this life we must work. If there is war in my country, I will sacrifice my life for the sake of my mother and for the sake of my country.

Amir explains that Iran is not an aggressor, it poses no threat to anyone and is not making any weapons.

- Israel has nuclear weapons. As for us, we do not need them. We never attacked anyone, while the whole world is discussing how to attack us. When Ahmadi Rushan was killed, 333 students in Iran submitted their requests asking to be transferred to the nuclear physics department, which means that 333 Iranians rose because one person had been killed. We are not scared by their threats.

One of 333

Saeed Mohammad Husseini is one of those 333 volunteers. The name Saeed means that he comes from the lineage of the Prophet Mohammed. He is currently in his second year of a Master’s course at Shahid Behesti University, the second-largest university in Iran. Saeed specializes in the legal aspects of environmental science, a field indirectly related to nuclear research.

Saeed was born in Nishabur, 120 kilometers from Khorasan, in a family of farmers. He has four brothers and a sister. All his siblings but one have a degree. One of his brothers chose a trade: he currently owns a small shop.

Saeed learned about the death of Ahmadi Roshan from a text message sent to him by a fellow member of the university’s Basinj cell (an organization of volunteers of all ages and professions uniting about 10 million people across Iran).

- I was taking an exam and I got a text message saying one of our scientists had been killed. Roshan did not teach at our university, but Majid Shahriari who was killed in 2010, was our nuclear physics professor. Four of our professors were killed in total.

All the students Roshan knew attended his funeral. He was buried in central Tehran, near the Imam zadeh-Sale Mosque.

- Everyone cried. We were all hurt. He was only 32, he had a four-year-old son. His son has not even been told that his father is dead. He is too young.

Another scientist, a colleague of the late Abbasi, was wounded. He survived and is now in charge of the nuclear program.

- He was in the car with his family. His wife saved him. She saw the bomb being planted, dragged her husband out of the car and shielded him from the blast.

Husseini believes that to be an example of Iranian selflessness.

- Americans should be told about acts like that so they understand how people in Iran feel about their duty and about each other.

After the funeral, the students held a discussion and decided that volunteers could write a letter, requesting that the best be selected for transferal to the nuclear physics department.

- Many of us had this idea while we were at the funeral. My thoughts were with him, I thought that I was sorry that I couldn’t have taken his place in that explosion. What I can do now is try and help our scientists as much as I can, and this is not about showing off. All those who signed the letter are willing to fill the gaps left by those who died.

Mohammad Husseini recalls that when Saddam Hussein started a war against Iran, many young men volunteered to go to the front, and he believes that it’s now time for the young generation to volunteer again.

- It’s possible that the ministry of education won’t approve my transfer to the nuclear physics department as I am a law student, but we all joined the wait list and we are ready to be of use. If necessary we can serve to protect our scientists, and it’s important for all people in Iran to know this.

The scientist’s bodyguards died protecting him, and so the country is in need of both scientists and soldiers, believes Husseini. There’s a special volunteer wait list to bodyguard Iran’s scientists and to study to become an engineer or technology expert.

Shahid Behesti University alone lists 173 volunteers, and there are more throughout the country. 333 candidates have been selected so far from those who were enrolled in courses related to nuclear physics.

In general, only the best of the best school graduates make it to the nuclear physics faculty in Iran, which has the highest competition, with about 1.5 million applicants each year.

- Thousands of talented students apply to study there, that’s why we are making such great progress in sciences. Do you know what progress we have made in medicine, in nanotechnologies? The tougher the sanctions, the greater our progress.

Mohammad Husseini’s companion asked me not to photograph him.

- Let’s protect our volunteers, they are our very best citizens. We are not scared of dying, but we do not want them to be killed, he explained.

Who kills scientists

Dr. Ali, an engineer, believes that the IAEA inspectors are all intelligence agents working on a mission against Iran.

- The IAEA resolution lists the names of all the scientists involved, and this is against the confidentiality clause. All personal data must be strictly confidential, and thus the IAEA has broken the rules of its own charter. Our scientists have been open with them, shown them around, and gave their names. And now the west sends assassins to kill off our scientists.

The story of the assassin Jamali Fashi, executed for having murdered Professor Alimohammadi of the University of Tehran in January 2012, is quite typical.

- This Jamali Fashi was a 25-year-old man who used to be a professional boxer without any significant educational background, just a secondary school graduate. He was on a competition tour in Turkey, when he was invited to the Israeli embassy and recruited to collaborate with Mossad with a promise of being paid 100 thousand US dollars for his mission. He wasn’t even aware of his target. He was given 30-day training on a site replicating the scientist’s residence, to ensure perfect knowledge of his routine. After that he was trained for 60 more days in Tehran to park the explosives-loaded motorbike correctly. Then he had to wait for the order, which he did.They even paid him only half the amount they had promised.

Dr. Ali says that Fashi sincerely repented of what he had done. The widow of the murdered scientist paid him a visit, and he begged for her forgiveness, he cried and said he had no idea who his target was supposed to be. He thought it was some politician.

- Even an assassin would not go against Iran’s nuclear program. He was executed on charges of treason. Homicide also is subject to capital punishment in our country.

Dr. Ali believes western countries are under the delusion that Iran can be broken by such methods and actions.

- They did the same when the revolution broke out – planted and detonated explosives. The countries of the west gave Saddam weapons to wage war against Iran for 8 years. As a result, we now have 80 graves at the Shahid cemetery, of the martyrs who got killed in the bombings together with Mohammad Beheshti, the hero of our revolution we named a university after. What result did they get? Our people have made progress. We have launched a satellite into space. Our adversaries have no logic.

On my way out of Tehran, in the airport, I had a conversation with two young Iranians who looked quite liberal, judging by their attire and hair. Both turned out to be living in France and visiting relatives in Iran. Many things in Iran they disagreed with, such as traditional dress code for women, the ban on bars and disco clubs, the regime on the whole, and excessive clergy representation in the parliament. My last question was about the nuclear program.

- We support it, and our parents do, too. You won’t find any Iranian who is against it, whatever the pressure. Don’t waste your time looking.

­Nadezhda Kevorkova, RT

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PostFri Feb 17, 2012 3:27 pm » by Mozi!!a

Re: How To Make Iran Give Up its Nuclear Program
Its Not About Giving Up, Its About Making New Ones LOL

US toothless against Iran rock: Pentagon seeks new superbomb ... -bomb-951/
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PostFri Feb 17, 2012 3:36 pm » by Funkt33

US toothless against Iran rock: Pentagon seeks new superbomb

Typical American approach, throw more money at it...

Diplomacy is free, they should all try that sometime..

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PostSat Feb 18, 2012 11:15 am » by Matterisme

"How To Make Iran Give Up its Nuclear Program"

You don't haha I would feel alot safer if Iran had nukes rather than America. Ever country with nukes commits terrorism everyday.... America cannot really go around saying Iranians are terrorist and support or fund terrorism when they are probably the biggest cause of terror/fear for the world right now.. They are like playground bullies picking at you waiting for a retaliation so they can kick the shit out of you with their friends (allies). I hope to god Iran just want energy and not nuclear weapons.

Dose not really matter how much we want them to give up or more much we try and make them give up they obviously will not they have a goal and are willing to die for it.. unstoppable

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PostSat Feb 18, 2012 11:18 am » by Mrmcnuggets

dagnamski wrote:Oh that's easy.

You drop a bomb on them and ask they if they liked it :roll:

Like Operation, right?

LMFAO. :lol: Best read of the day, right here. :lol:
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PostSat Feb 18, 2012 11:39 am » by Svaha

Diplomacy is the only way, but I think that's cut off by now when I look at Syrië.
Hopefuly there are still secret negotiations.

It's like some already stated a replay of Irak.
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PostSat Feb 18, 2012 11:46 am » by Mrmcnuggets

svaha wrote:Diplomacy is the only way, but I think that's cut off by now when I look at Syrië.
Hopefuly there are still secret negotiations.

It's like some already stated a replay of Irak.
I think it's a shame for humankind, a few war mongerers lead us into a devastating war that nobody will win.

Diplomacy is my new favorite word for favored communism.
That's pretty much what we see today. People can say the president is corrupt all they want, but the corruption lays with congress. The judicial system and executive branch have a select, and shallow set of programed rules to follow. Congress can make up their own, shit doesn't work if that's possible.

The only way everyone, and by everyone I assume you mean, and I mean every will lose is by everyone dying. Winning after all, in war, would be the person who gains or is left less scared than anyone else. So who ever fights to be the fittest, or flees to fight another day.

With who ever is calling the shots from the top, and by the top, I mean THE TOP. They will surely win, or come in second place, which is what they would want to promote their direction against the flawed newly arrogant direction that would be imposed.. Sort of like a double edged sword, either way, shit happens, either way, it will be to the persons of controls desire.

And right now, world wide, it would be the controlling interest of the monies. Even if they pave the old board game down to put up a new one, "every one" would not lose. I would expect about half or so. :peep:
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PostSat Feb 18, 2012 2:12 pm » by Pitbulterrorist

iran has every right to own nuclear weapons just as much as all the countrys that surround them. people have this crazy idea that as soon as iran has a nuclear weapon they are going to use it on israel. this is crazy, all because israel don't want iran to rise out of the third world status. israel is the country everybody should be worried about. mossad is going to extreem lenghs to kill it's own people and blame iran for it and suck up to america. why would iran use a nuclear weapon on anybody then face the wrath of the world. why would they do this? who in their right mind would would do this? certainly not iran, irans nuclear ambition is peacful and no amount of propaganda will say otherwise, what the western world is doing to iran is evil. all this so they can steel oil and gold just like iraq and libya. warmongers everywhere don't deserve to share this world with normal people burn in hell the lot of them

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