How Your Brain Can Turn Anxiety into Calmness

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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 3:32 am » by SterlingRose


With all the thingz that r going on within us & around us- the multi-tasking that we all do now, our thoughtz & the external stressors we face; i thought that this would b an interesting topic for us to toss around. i kno this vid is a bit long but i did enjoy it & i hope u do too! Sooo, what makes u feel Kool,calm & collected? :hugging:


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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 9:40 am » by Spock


turning into a good lecture. I am anxious to hear if he has dealt with anxiety on a personal level, or just attempted to rationalize it on a clinical one. Sort of what psych's do, try to help the person see something they perceive as bad in a different light. But I'm still early into the lecture.

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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 10:17 am » by Toxic32


I must admit that trawling through that video has got me beat. To early in the morning for that. I will get back to it later. But just a quick thought. The way I deal with problems and that's what we are talking about at the end of the day. Is turn and face up to them. The first thing I say to my self is be true unto thy self, be honest and realistic.

1: Can I do anything to change what's happening or could happen. If the answer is yes then start doing it. If the answer is no then what the fuck are getting up tight about there is nothing you can do to change things.

2: Do I have control of the outcome. Yes, then do it. No, get on with your life.

3: Will I survive what ever is or can happen to me. If yes then it's a win win situation. Because if no then acceptance is a great safety valve, Ill be dead anyway so why worry. It's a bit like the fear of flying. It's not the flying that's the problem it's the not flying and dying that's real problem. When I get on a flight I just let go and enjoy the process. I have no control over the aircraft and there is nothing I can do if it fell out of the sky.
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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 2:22 pm » by Zer0


Hey good thread Rose! I only gotten up to the 10 minute mark, I will comment more when I am done, but so far this is synchronisitc with the current thread I am working on "The True (Hidden) History of Science"

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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 8:32 pm » by Spock


I've nodded off twice now listening to this, but it is really good. I'll finish it eventually. When I woke up the last time, it was towards the end and he had led the audience in a relaxation technique.

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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 10:26 pm » by 99socks


I got 1 hour, 1 minute in, and I can't take it anymore. In an entire hour, this man hasn't said a single thing that isn't conventional wisdom or what we all already know about.


@Toxic: I am with you on the acceptance thing. Just accepting whatever outcome happens- Being- without obsessing over trying to have control over what I don't have control over, has kept me miraculously calm in just about everything I've ever faced, but it is surprising just how many people don't "get it." The last time this came up, I was in a Systema class when we were doing knife work. There were all kinds of exercises everyone had to do first in order to get comfortable with sparring with real knives with 6" blades. The instructor at one point asked me why I was so much more chill about it than everyone else, and I had to admit that in spite of all the techniques used in Systema, I had simply realized that I would come out either unscathed or scraped up a little. Being afraid of getting scratched during sparring was no comparison to getting stabbed if I didn't attack; and that I had decided that it was ok to get scratched. Therefore, I had no fear of 4 blades coming at me at once. Once everyone else had digested the logic in this, no one else hesitated in anything, either.


At any rate, Spock and maybe the OP- if you are suffering from anxiety issues and this isn't the kind of stuff that works for you, I may recommend reading "Waking the Tiger" by Peter Levine and "Healing Developmental Trauma" by Heller and LaPierre. I think this Doc in this video has a piece of the puzzle but in spite of his endorsement of acupuncture, I think he has completely missed the role of the anatomical nervous system.
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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 11:54 pm » by Spock


What hasn't been considered in this thread, and which I truly believe the case is many times - particularly mine, is that anxiety is a physical problem, not psychological. Meaning, that there is some gland that gets over-activated and excretes adrenaline into the system, not because of any fear or anticipation, but because of body chemistry. From that, the panic attacks can take place, but the panic is caused by the anxiety which is caused by an over activated gland.

So, when it comes to anxiety, it's not something that a psychologist necessarily can help with, because no amount of talking, rationalizing or cognitive therapy is going to stop the excretion of a protein which kicks everything into overdrive.

Other than that - good stuff, and sound advice that can help many people. Thanks for the post.

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PostThu Aug 01, 2013 11:57 pm » by Spock


FYI...

Scientists discover brain's 'misery molecule' which affects stress, anxiety and depression

- Researchers found the protein - named CRF1- in the pituitary gland
- It triggers cells to release hormones linked with stress and anxiety
- They now hope to create a drug which can target and block this function

Scientists have found the brain's 'misery molecule' believed to be responsible for all of our feelings of stress and anxiety.
Researchers believe that the protein - named CRF1 - could also be linked to depression.
A team from Heptares Therapeutics, a medical company based in Hertfordshire, used one of the world's most powerful x-ray machines to study the brain's pituitary gland.
It has long been known that the gland controls stress, depression and anxiety by releasing stress chemicals, the Sunday Times reports.
Now, scientists have discovered the response is triggered by CRF1 - which is found in the outer membranes of pituitary cells.
Fiona Marshall, chief scientific officer at Heptares, told the paper: 'Stress related diseases such as depression and anxiety affect a quarter of adults each year, but what many people don't realise is that these conditions are controlled by proteins in the brain, one of which is CRF1.'
She added that now they have worked out the structure of it and how it works it could open up potential to design drugs to control it.


CRF1 sits in pituitary cells and detects the stress molecules detected by the hypothalamus, a portion of the brain which produces hormones that control, body temperature, hunger and moods - among others.

When it picks one of these molecules up, it triggers the parent cell to release the hormones which lead to stress and anxiety, the paper reports.
Using the Diamond Light Source, based in Harwell, Oxfordshire, which produces powerful x-ray beams, researchers were able to study the protein's structure and pin point areas which could be targeted by new drugs.
Ms Marshall said they had identified a 'crevice' which would be an ideal area to aim a molecule which could be specially designed to block CRF1 - effectively disabling it.
She said the team now hope to use this research method to analyse molecules involved in type 2 diabetes - with the hope of one day developing a drug which can be taken orally as opposed to the injections which sufferers of the condition have to use.

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PostFri Aug 02, 2013 12:01 am » by 99socks


Spock wrote:What hasn't been considered in this thread, and which I truly believe the case is many times - particularly mine, is that anxiety is a physical problem, not psychological. Meaning, that there is some gland that gets over-activated and excretes adrenaline into the system, not because of any fear or anticipation, but because of body chemistry. From that, the panic attacks can take place, but the panic is caused by the anxiety which is caused by an over activated gland.

So, when it comes to anxiety, it's not something that a psychologist necessarily can help with, because no amount of talking, rationalizing or cognitive therapy is going to stop the excretion of a protein which kicks everything into overdrive.

Other than that - good stuff, and sound advice that can help many people. Thanks for the post.



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Read "Waking The Tiger" by Peter Levine, and "Healing Developmental Trauma" by Laurence Heller. Anxiety, and trauma, and all of it... is NOT controlled by the limbic brain past the point of when the "event" is over, but it does play a huge part. Constant anxiety is just triggered trauma, which is held in the anatomical nervous system, and that could be causing your brain chemistry to go out of whack. It doesn't think, isn't logical, and fighting it- suppressing it- just makes it worse. There is an absolutely amazing therapy called "somatic experiencing" that I am endorsing for long-term relief... EFT (emotional freedom technique) helps in the short-term. Both have Socks's seal of approval. :flop:

But please, everyone, if you have a few buck and a few hours of time, I think the two books I just recommended can help a lot of people. If not yourself... then someone you know.
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PostFri Aug 02, 2013 1:07 am » by Toxic32


I spent an hour replying to your post..Then what fuck all. Gone and never said. So I will distil down to an smell of what I tried to say. Darwin. You can make it or fail, nature doesn't give a fuck. Your choice you take control and guided your life. You live to reproduce. Great. You die....So what. Just it down a peg or two. We are programmed to spread our genes. Which means we will shag as many women as we can. so we can spread our genes. But when we find out that our genes have been successful we have a problem. Nature is so clever. All of a sudden we fall in love. Fuck another trick. We have to hang around for about five years. Then all bets are off. Girls if you want to understand why I said that....If I tell you I will be hung by my balls. PM me and I will explain.
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