if u were buddha would you show the world?

[Canubis Profile]

not entirely Iwanci,

but i hada dream the other day i was givn the powers of god for only the weekend, and i abused them to an evil cruel extent....come Monday the aftermath and i lost my god ship....everyone loved me still but took me and showed me the path of destruction and i saw the devastation caused.... given the chance again i would do things differently

Goes to show the real god isnot imagination at all but a law, From Chaos comes Order...

[SonOfGodEternalFlame Profile]

The Antichrist Will Embrace the New Age System
Compiled By S. E. Ray

A man will appear among the ranks of humankind, a personable man of great oratory skills and attractive visual appearance. He will rise within a position of political power and will be endued with miraculous powers and perform great works as a testimony to his authority. This man will embrace all religious systems as of “God” and will openly propagate all means as a way to God. His ecumenical approach will win the hearts of those who hear; even many of those who call upon the name of Christ. This man, the antichrist, will deceive most to believe he is the one who will bring hope to the world. After assuming the reins of power, the great world leader will usher in a period of universal peace and prosperity. His magnetism and charisma will enable him to establish himself at the helm of a One World Government, One World Economy, and a One World New Age Religion.

This individual will not only have the unusual gift of dynamic communications and entrancing presence, he will also arise at a time when the world is troubled and failing from fear. He will be vaulted to position almost overnight from within a spiritual system seeking leadership. A system that appears godly on the surface, but rather derives its origin from ancient occult practices and beliefs. Enter in the Age of Aquarius, also called the New Age. Not a religious cult or a system that has any distinguishable appearance of evil, but a paganistic system that is growing at an unprecedented rate. Capturing converts from the church itself, even some clergy openly allow occult functions out of ignorance. Many leaders are not educated in this movement authored by the fallen angel, which allows the dark powers to prosper from within.

Randall Baer, a former New Age leader who became a born again Christian expresses the nature of the Aquarian conspiracy we must contend with in his revealing bestseller, “Inside The New Age Nightmare”. He wrote, "This agenda is nothing less than the complete revolutionizing of the very foundations of not only America but the entire world. Such a plan calls for the total restructuring of planetary civilization into an enlightened One World Federation in which national boundaries and sovereignty are secondary, and 'planetary citizenship' in the 'global village' is the order of the day. This (conspiracy) offers a world in desperate need a grand solution to profound global problems. Apparent world peace and unprecedented opportunities ... are to be unveiled."

Already, Christians are being branded as narrow-minded bigots for claiming Christ as the only way unto the father. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6 KJV). Christianity is currently being discredited by New Agers and those who follow the biblical teachings are deemed spiritually inferior and enemies of the New Age. The average New Ager will agree that Jesus Christ is God — his worldview will allow that. But his worldview will also compel him to say that Jesus is no more God than anyone else. Though some New Age groups identify themselves as Christian, and most New Agers think highly of Jesus, their endorsements of Him are ghastly substitute for the true Jesus who is the Son of God. This non-deification stance is a perfect catalyst for the coming antichrist.

The scripture reveals little about this Luciferian incarnation, but history shows that the power of iniquity has attempted to empower several men who had potential and who sought to be a god. Antiochus Epiphanes, Roman Emperor Nero, Charlemagne, Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and others are all leaders who aspired to greatness and conquest. The church still awaits the rise of the one final worker of deception, an event that is dependant on many factors to be in alignment before his appearance. He will, like other leaders before him, rely heavily on the occult to energize and empower his office. The same malignant powers are found active in the New Age system, the breeding ground aspiring to the self-seekers sceptered by the kingdom of darkness.

The New Age is not new at all; the beliefs and practices revert back to the time of Nimrod and Babylon. After the Flood of Noah's days, Nimrod was "a mighty hunter before the Lord," and he established the city of Babylon and also the city of Nineveh, which later became the capital of Assyria. He was against God. He introduced astrology, witchcraft, idolatry, and many other ungodly systems that have survived to this day. It is known that all the religions of the ancient empires were built on the same corruptions originated by Nimrod. These spiritual systems continue unabated today amidst various disguises and renamed as were the idols of old.

There are several views on the eschological order of end time events, found in the studies of dispensationalism. Many which have scriptural basis, others that are historical assumptions based on limited information. However, despite the order by which end time events will transpire, the end is coming and shall be herald with the lawless one amidst a false spiritual system, this much we can be certain.

The days are short and the times are evil, be exceedingly cautious of what you receive as truth. Weigh all things against the Holy Scripture, for they contain the true light. Beelzebub is skilled and wise beyond any human, capable of deceiving the most enlightened. For scripture reveals to us “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matthew 24:24 KJV). How would those in Christ be deceived? If a man rose up from a system that used terms such as “Christ consciousness” and God is in all, and there are many ways to find God, whatever you choose will work. To the undiscerning soul without the wisdom of the Holy God, such words might seem as righteous truths.

One has to be careful not to be dogmatic about future events, for in as much as people have tried to predict trends, they are often in error. We are not able to foresee the interactive variables that constantly modify the end result. There are some constants and immutable words of prophesy, but we will all be surprised at how events actually unfold. Therefore stand fast in the faith and do not easily be moved.

The Reappearance of the Christ
Djwhal Khul through Alice A. Bailey

Always down the centuries, at the hour of man's greatest need, and in response to his voiced demand, a divine Son of God has come forth, and under many different names...

It is not for us yet to know the date or hour of the reappearance of the Christ. His coming is dependent upon the appeal (the often voiceless appeal) of all who stand with massed intent; it is dependent also upon the better establishment of right human relations & upon certain work being done at this time by senior Members of the Kingdom of God, the Church Invisible, the spiritual Hierarchy of our planet; it is dependent also upon the steadfastness of the Christ's disciples in the world at this time and His initiate-workers---all working in the many groups: religious, political & economic. To the above must be added what Christians like to call "the inscrutable Will of God," that unrecognized purpose of the Lord of the World, the Ancient of Days (as He is called in the Old Testament) Who "knows His own Mind, radiates the highest quality of love & focuses His Will in His Own high Place within the center where the Will of God is known.

He has been for two thousand years the supreme Head of the Church Invisible, the Spiritual Hierarchy, composed of disciples of all faiths. He recognizes and loves those who are not Christian but who retain their allegiance to Their Founders--the Buddha, Mohammed and others. He cares not what the faith is if the objective is love of God and of humanity. If men look for the Christ Who left His disciples centuries ago, they will fail to recognize the Christ Who is in process of returning. The Christ has no religious barriers in His consciousness. It matters not to Him of what faith a man may call himself...

When the Christ, the Avatar of Love, makes His Reappearance then will the Sons of men who are now the Sons of God withdraw Their faces from the shining light & radiate that light upon the sons of men who know not yet that they are Sons of God. Then shall the Coming One appear, His footsteps hastened through the valley of the shadow by the One of awful power Who stands upon the mountain top, breathing out love eternal, light supernal & peaceful, silent Will.

Then will the sons of men respond. Then will a newer light shine forth into the dismal, weary vale of earth. Then will new life course through the veins of men, & then will their vision compass all the ways of what may be.

So a peace will come again on earth, but a peace unlike aught known before. Then will the will-to-good flower forth as understanding, & understanding blossom as goodwill in men.

The mass of straight goodness and vision in the world is enormous, and the amount of clear, humanitarian thinking is unbounded; it is in the hands of the masses of good little men, and the millions of right thinking people in every land, that the salvation of the world lies, and by them the preparatory work for the Coming of the Christ will be done. Numerically, they are adequate to the task, and need only reassurance and wise co-ordination to prepare for the service required.

When He comes...to inaugurate the New Age and so complete the work He began in Palestine two thousand years ago, He will bring with Him some of the great Angels, as well as certain of the Masters. (The Externalisation of the Hierarchy, 508)

The time is known only to two or three, but "in such an hour as ye think not, He will come." (Matt.XXIV 44)

To Him all seekers are known, and, though they may remain unaware of Him, the light which He pours forth stimulates their desire, fosters the spark of struggling life and spurs on the aspirant until the momentous day dawns when they stand face to face with the One Who by being "lifted up" is drawing all men unto Himself as the Initiator of the sacred mysteries.

His reappearance and His consequent work cannot be confined to one small locality or domain, unheard of by the great majority, as was the case when He was here before. The radio, the press and the dissemination of news, will make His coming different to that of any previous Messenger; the swift modes of transportation will make Him available to countless millions, and by boat, rail and plane they can reach Him: through television, His face can be made familiar to all, and verily "every eye shall see Him."

The reason He has not come again is that the needed work has not been done by His followers in all countries. His coming is largely dependent, as we shall later see, upon the establishing of right human relations. This the church has hindered down the centuries, & has not helped because of its fanatical zeal to make "Christians" of all peoples & not followers of the Christ. It has emphasized theological doctrine, & not love & loving understanding as Christ exemplified it. The Church has preached the fiery Saul of Tarsus & not the gentle Carpenter of Galilee. And so, He has waited. But His hour has now come, because of the people's need in every land & because of the invocative cry of the masses everywhere & the advice of His disciples of all faiths & of all world religions.

The uniqueness of the impending mission of the Christ and the uniqueness of His opportunity consist in the fact that He is able--in Himself--to give expression to two divine energies: the energy of love and the energy of will, the magnetic potency of love and the dynamic effectiveness of the divine will. Never before, in the long, long history of humanity, has such a revelation been possible.

The work and the teaching of the Christ will be hard for the Christian world to accept, though easier of assimilation in the East. Nevertheless, some hard blow or some difficult presentation of the truth is badly needed if the Christian world is to be awakened, and if Christian people are to recognise their place within a worldwide divine revelation and see the Christ as representing all the faiths and taking His rightful place as World Teacher. He is the World Teacher and not a Christian teacher. He Himself told us that He had other folds and to them He has meant as much as He has meant to the orthodox Christian. They may not call Him Christ, but they have their own name for Him and follow Him as truly and faithfully as their Western bretheren.

Let us look for a moment at the erroneous interpretations given to the Gospel story. The symbolism of that Gospel story--an ancient story-presentation often presented down the ages, prior to the coming of the Christ in Palestine--has been twisted and distorted by theologians until the crystalline purity of the early teaching and the unique simplicity of the Christ have disappeared in a travesty of errors and in a mummery of ritual, money, & human ambitions.

Christ is pictured today as having been born in an unnatural manner, as having taught and preached for three years and then as having been crucified and eventually resurrected, leaving humanity in order to "sit on the right hand of God," in austere and distant pomp. Likewise, all the other approaches to God by any other people, at any time and in any country, are regarded by the orthodox Christian as wrong approaches, as being practiced by so-called "heathen," and as requiring Christian interference. Every possible effort has been made to force orthodox Christianity on those who accept the inspiration and the teachings of the Buddha or of others who have been responsive for preserving the divine continuity of revelation.

The emphasis has been, as we all well know, upon the "blood sacrifice of the Christ" upon the Cross and upon a salvation dependent upon the recognition and acceptance of that sacrifice. The vicarious at-one-ment has been substituted for the reliance which Christ Himself enjoined us to place upon our own divinity; the Church of Christ has made itself famous and futile (as the world war proved) for its narrow creed, its wrong emphasis, its clerical pomp, its spurious authority, its material riches and its presentation of a dead Christ. His resurrection is accepted, but the major appeal of the churches has been upon His death.

Christ has been [portrayed] for two thousand years [as] a silent, passive Figure, hidden behind a multitude of words written by a multitude of men (commentators and preachers). The church has pointed us to the dying Christ upon the Cross and not to the living, working, active, present Christ Who has been with us in bodily Presence (according to His promise) for twenty centuries.

...His major task is surely the establishing of right human relations in every department of human living. I would ask you to use your imagination and endeavor to think out what must be the implications of the task which confronts Him; I would ask you to ponder on the difficulties which He must inevitably face---the difficulty, above all, of the mass intellectual wrong emphasis.

He, the Representative of the love of God, is asked to work again in the world arena wherein His earlier message has been negated, forgotten or misinterpreted for two thousand years, and wherein hate and separativeness have distinguished all men everywhere. This will plunge Him into a foreign atmosphere and into a situation wherein all His divine resources will be needed, and will have to be tried out to the uttermost...That He will ultimately lead His people, humanity, into Jerusalem is a fact, founded on a secure foundation, but it will not be into a Jewish city called Jerusalem but into "the place of peace" (as the word "Jerusalem" means). A careful consideration of the world situation today and a dedicated use of the imagination will reveal to the sincere thinker how appalling is the task which He has undertaken. But He has again "set His face to go to Jerusalem." (Luke IX.51) He will re-appear and guide mankind into a civilization and a state of consciousness in which right human relations and worldwide cooperation for the good of all will be the universal keynote.

It is light and--above all else--"life more abundantly" which Christ will bring, and until He brings it we know not what it signifies; we cannot realise the revelation which this will entail and the new possibilities which will open up before us. But through Him, light and life are on their way, to be interpreted and applied in terms of goodwill and of right human relations. For this the Spiritual Hierarchy is preparing. This time the Christ will not come alone for His co-workers will come with Him. His experience and Theirs will be the reverse of the previous one, for this time every eye shall see Him, and every ear will hear Him and every mind will pass judgment upon Him.

We can freely aid in the reconstruction work which the Christ proposes, if we will familiarize ourselves and all men whom we can contact with the following facts:

1. That the reappearance of Christ is imminent.
2. That the Christ, immanent in every human heart, can be evoked in recognition of His appearance.
3. That the circumstances of His return are only symbolically related in the world Scriptures; this may produce a vital change in the preconceived ideas of humanity.
4. That the major required preparation is a world at peace; however that peace must be based on an educated goodwill, which will lead inevitably to right human relations, and, therefore, to the establishment (figuratively speaking) of lines of light between nation and nation, religion and religion, group and group, man and man.

If we can succeed in presenting these four ideas to the world at large, and thus in overcoming the intelligent criticism that all that is said is too vague, prophetic, and visionary, we shall have done much. It is possible surely that the ancient truism that "the mind is the slayer of the real" may be fundamentally true where the mass of humanity is concerned and that the purely intellectual approach (which rejects the vision & refuses to accept the unprovable) may be far more at fault than the anticipation of the Knowers of God and the expectant Multitude...The Christ who will return will not be like the Christ Who (apparently) departed. He will not be a "man of sorrows"; He will not be a silent pensive figure; He will be the enunciator of spiritual statements which will not necessitate interpretation and receive the wrong interpretation, because He will be present to indicate the true meaning.

The Son of God is on His way and He cometh not alone. His advance guard is already here and the Plan which they must follow is already made and clear. Let recognition be the aim.

Today, when He comes, He will find a world uniquely free from the grip and hold of ecclesiasticism; when He came before, Palestine was held in the vicious grasp of the Jewish religious leaders, and the Pharisees and the Sadducees where to the people of that land what the potentates of the church are to the people in the world today...The priests, the Levites, the Pharisees and the Sadducees were not the ones who recognised Him when He came before. They feared Him. And it is highly improbable that the reactionary churchmen will be the ones to recognize Him today...

It is a fallacy to believe, as some do, that the main trend of Christ's work will be through the medium of the churches or the world religions...He will use all available channels whereby the consciousness of man may be enlarged and right orientation be brought about...the churches are but one of the teaching avenues He will employ...

The long divorce between religion and politics must be ended and this can now come about because of the high level of the human mass intelligence and the fact that science has made all men so close that what happens in some remote area of the earth's surface is a matter of general interest within a few minutes. This makes it uniquely possible for Him to work in the future.

He will not come as the restorer of any of the ancient religions including Christianity, but He will come to restore man's faith in the Father's love, in the fact of the livinginess of the Christ and in the close, subjective and unbreakable relationship of all men everywhere...

His reappearance will knit and bind together all men and women of goodwill throughout the world, irrespective of religion or nationality.

It is to the whole world that Christ comes and not just to the Christian world. He comes to the East and to the West.

He will come unfailingly when a measure of peace has been restored, when the principle of sharing is at least in process of controlling economic affairs, and when churches and political groups have begun to clean house. Then He can and will come; then the Kingdom of God will be publicly recognised, and will no longer be a thing of dreams and of wishful thinking and orthodox hope.

Let me make the facts somewhat clearer, and enlarge somewhat upon the three modes of His appearing, of His coming, His advent, and of His physical recognition by humanity:

1. By His overshadowing of all initiates and disciples who are today or will be at the time of His arrival, active in the three worlds of human evolution. This involves His influencing their minds telepathically. This overshadowing or influencing, will be His primary work upon the mental plane. This will constitute one of His most effective methods in His proposed spiritual interference in world affairs. Through the medium of these members or affiliates of the Hierarchy, He will have outposts of His consciousness in every nation. Through them He can work.
2. By the pouring out of the Christ life or consciousness upon the masses everywhere, and in every nation. This spiritual inflow will bring about the reorienting of human desire, and will evoke the emotional response to His Presence. This therefore brings the astral plane within the active sphere of His influence; this involves the release of the energy of goodwill into the hearts of men, predisposing them towards right human relations. It is this establishing of right relations which is the major objective of His coming triple activity. The masses everywhere will be responsive to the work and the message of Christ, as it is implemented from the mental plane by the disciples and initiates, overshadowed by the mind of Christ.
3. By His physical appearance among men. Through His Own immediate appearance, He can establish a potent focal point of hierarchical energy upon earth, in a manner not hitherto possible. He has never deserted humanity and has always kept His promise to stay with us all the days even unto the end of the age. Men in all lands will know where He can be found. The locale of this focal point of His threefold spiritual activity cannot here be disclosed, for it is contingent upon the results of the sequential process of overshadowing and outpouring. (The Rays & the Initiations, 615/16)

When He comes at the close of this century and makes His power felt, He will come as the Teacher of Love and Unity, and the keynote He will strike will be regeneration through love poured forth on all. ...this will demonstrate ...in the formation of active groups in every city of any size and in every country, which will work aggressively for unity, cooperation and brotherhood in every department of life -- economic, religious, social and scientific. (A Treatise on Cosmic Fire, 755)

From stage to stage, from crisis to crisis, from point to point and from centre to centre, the life of God progresses, leaving greater beauty behind it as it moves through one form after another and from kingdom to kingdom... The manifestations of the Kingdom of God on Earth, the preparing of the way for its great Inaugurator, the Christ, the making possible the externalisation of the Hierarchy upon Earth, give us each and all a fully adequate task and something for which to live and work, to dream and aspire. (The Rays & the Initiations, 738)

Except where otherwise noted, these quotes are from "The Reappearance of the Christ" by Alice A. Bailey, Lucis Publishing Company.

This book the reappearance of the Christ is written by Satan and
his demonic host. They know Christ is real and admit it but they lie and deceive to take
away the only truth God Yahweh and Jesus are only true savior. God himself allows Satan
to pull this off to punish those who hate the truth that they may believe the lie. Then shall
the real Christ (JESUS OF NAZARETH) return and destroy them and give true peace that a
human self centered hart could never achieve without god. They will kill the Christians who
don't bow to their ascended masters but everything must be fulfilled. The right human relations
is to get the world to deny the true gospel and except the Christ evolution.

[Iwanci Profile]

Good and evil.. both are a matter of perspective wouldn't you say?

Whether or not something is good or evil comes down to opinion.


Born into a life of crime may make someon more tolerant of actions that by other standards seem downright dispicable.

Likewise, born into a life of devout religious order may make the slightest and otherwise tolerable indiscretion seem a crime.

No?

[Canubis Profile]

taking my example, god on a rampage killing n destroying everything isnot good at all its pure evil, even the evilest people would be pissed off...

but from that learning 1st hand and changing from destroying and killing to creating and giving is a good thing

Thus From Chaos comes Order

Chaos isnot evil in particular for example the big bang theory, it started there and then with chaos and ever since order has come from it...stupid theory, they give u half of the theory lol but i know b4 the big bang..

[Iwanci Profile]

You could also argue that for there to be order there MUST be chaos.

The world developed from chaos into order, then from the order came choas, and from chaos should come order... seems to me that we haven't really gone through the last phase as yet...

So, when does this happen?

Buddha, God etc.. these are all mans attempt to project to the coming of order from chaos... good winning the fight against evil...

I am convinced of this. I am happy however that people think in this optimistic fashion, I am happy that we have religious people on earth, and that people 'believe' in good. I am not convinced however that it is a true reflection of actuality. The actuality for me is that we 'exist' just like any other life form, albeit, we may be more advanced (at least we think we are), or then again, we may be so primevil that a more advanced species has actually been able to evolve out of having a thought process...

So, if the truth is in the contradiction, what we see as a very simplistic life form, microbes for example, may actually be life at its most advanced state, no thought, no emotion, minimal dependancy on its environment and the ability to adapt and morph through most devastating circumstances.

Perhaps, removing the self is the next part of our evolutionary process?


Just a thought....

[Tjahzi Profile]

sounds a lot like



to me.

a balanced system of order and chaos, only to be perverted into good and evil by us and our fellow man.

Nice idea's Iwanci but couldn't we then consider planets or stars too as highly advanced systems in a most simplistic form, meaning the circle.

btw Suevassusej, red text does not make for good reading and neither does the antichrist

[Iwanci Profile]

Yes, we could consider the lovely bubbles that make up our galaxies and universe as living spheres in the most simplistic forms, of course, why not.

Interesting things happen when we think... love these philosophical conversations