Interesting conversation I had at school today...

[Twistedreality Profile]

In one of my classes today, something very unexpecting happened. Someone next to me
starts singing a 2 or 3 line lyric from a song, but the only word I could "register" was Illuminati. So, after that he starts to talk to another student about the Illuminati & if he's he heard of it. Which all of this catches me off guard, for obvious reasons. Now if you're thinking
this is front of the teacher your WRONG. This a Computer Tech. class so we sit far from the teacher. The student whou brought up the conversation talks about how the government is corrupt & that there going enslave us. The he starts talking about rappers singing about the Illuminati & how people like Michael Jackson,Tupac & others were killed because they were going to expose the illuminati. Other things were disscused that i can't quite remember, he
shows the owl that's on the One Dollar bill. It was just all around pretty wierd, and just not
something you hear school everyday. Also can someone shed some light on the songs Tupac talks about the illuminati in. EDIT: I also forgot to mention my teacher is a Free Mason, he even has a sticker of the Free Masonry logo on the door.

[Realorfake Profile]

welcome twisted one... at last rappers are rapping about something other than blunts and ho's

[Twistedreality Profile]

welcome twisted one... at last rappers are rapping about something other than blunts and ho's

I know, my post is kind of "cheesy", but, meh.

[whitedeath Profile]

Yeah welcome twisted

I guess it's good people are talking about it, maybe not in the same context as I would (alongside rap)
Megame23's your man for that.
Use the search feature in the forums with his user name and you should see a few threads he has about that

[Megame23 Profile]

Hey, I'm here :-p

Welcome twisted, this is from one of my threads.

So who is at the top of the rap game now?

Jay-Z



Oh look Kanye and Rihanna too



Whats up with this symbol they are making? Who the hell is their record label?

Ohh its the rocafella hand gesture for his company. I get it.




So he is saying Rockefeller and the Illuminati run this town.

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Note the music video is jam packed with Illuminati and occult symbolism. Black hooded robes with people making the sign of the devil and the rocafella hand signal.

The message: The Illuminati runs this town bitches.





Still think this stuff doesn't matter, that people aren't being brainwashed by this bullshit?

Look its cool, Tom Cruise is doing it too!



This one is disappointing...



Hey look, the top is illuminated!

Lets look at the lyrics of "Run this Town"

Red is my comments on the song


[Intro - Rihanna]

Feel it comin' in the air
see me the sreets from everywhere
I'm addicted to the thrill
It's a dangerous spooky man
Can't be scared when it goes down
Got a problem, tell me now
Only thing that's on my mind
Is who's gonna run this town tonight...
Is who's gonna run this town tonight...
We gonna run this town

Feels like things are accelerating, who will win, the people or us? We are going to.

[Verse 1 - Jay-Z]

We are
Yeah I said it
We are
This is Roc Nation
Pledge your allegiance
Get y'all fatigues on
All black everything
Black cards, black cars
All black everything
And our girls are blackbirds
Ridin' with they dillingers
I'd get more in Depth
If you boys really real enough
This is la familia
I'll explain later
But for now let me get back to this paper
I'm a couple bands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
Yeah I'm talkin' five comma
Six zeros
Dot zero
Here it go...
Back to runnin' circles 'round white folks
Now we fired up
Hold up

Rockefeller runs this town, put your hands up and pledge allegiance to the NWO, all occult, get your RFID cards brainwashed slaves bow down, I'll explain everything later (Blackbird is likely referring to mind control)

[Chorus - Rihanna]

Life's a game but it's not fair
I break the rules so I don't care
So I keep doin' my own thing
Walkin' tall against the rain
Victory's within the mile
Almost there, don't give up now
Only thing that's on my mind
Is who's gonna run this town tonight
Heeeey-hey-hey-hey-hey-heyyy
Hey-heyyy-hey-hey-heyy
Heeeey-hey-hey-hey-hey-heyyy
(Is who's gonna run this town tonight)
Hey-hey-hey-heyyy

We are so close to winning you fools, we take what we want, when we want it and soon we will have the world.

[Verse 2 - Jay-Z]

We are
Yeah I said it
We are
You can call me Cesar
In a dark Cigar
Please follow the lea-der
So Eric B. we are
Microphone fiend
It's the return of thee God
Peace God...
(Auh! Auh! )
And ain't nobody fresher
I'm in Mason
(Ah! )
Martin Margiela
On the tape we're screamin'
what its the other side, they jealous
We got a bankhead full of broads(?)
They got a table full of fellas... (?)
And they ain't spending no cake
They should throw they hand in
'Cause they ain't got no spades...
My whole team got dough
So my bankhead is lookin' like millionaire's 'fro

I'm a Freemason and we have all the money and power bitches

[Chorus - Rihanna]

Life's a game but it's not fair
I break the rules so I don't care
So I keep doin' my own thing
Walkin' tall against the rain
Victory's within the mile
Almost there, don't give up now
Only thing that's on my mind
Is who's gonna run this town tonight
Heeeey-hey-hey-hey-hey-heyyy
Hey-heyyy-hey-hey-heyy
Heeeey-hey-hey-hey-hey-heyyy
(Is who's gonna run this town tonight)
Hey-hey-hey-heyyy

[Verse 3 - Kanye West]

It's crazy how you can go from being Joe Blow
To everybody on your dick, no homo
I bought my whole family whips, no Volvos
Next time I'm in church, please no photos (crowd who would want to take pics of you)
Police escorts
Everybody passports
This the life that everybody ask for
This a fast life
We are on a crash course
What you think I rap for
To push a RAV4 forward?
But I know that if I stay stun-ting
All these girls only gonna want one thing
I could spend my whole life good will hun-ting
Only good gon' come is as good when I'm cumm-ing
She got a ass that'll swallow up a g-string
And up top, unh...
Two bee stings
And I'm beasting
Off the riesling
And my nigga just made it out the precinct
We give a damn about the drama that your dude bring
I'm just tryin' to change the color on your mood ring
Reebok
Baby
You need to drop some new things
Have you ever had shoes without shoe strings?
What's that 'Ye?
Baby, these heels
Is that a may?
What!
Baby, these wheels
You trippin' when you ain't sippin'
Have a refill
You trippin' when you runnin', huh?
Now you know how we feel

Im rich and stupid, but ya'll are too cause you can't see the world around you so blah blah blah

[Outro - Rihanna]

We gonna run this town tonight!

[Outro - Jay-Z]

Wassup!

In the rap world particularly, there has arisen a great divide between artists, and most do not understand what the true divide is about...

Illuminati rappers (hip-hop included too):

Jay-z
Kanye West
Rihanna
Afrika Bambaataa
Chris Brown
Beyonce


Anti Illuminati rappers:

2Pac

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Immortal technique

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Prodigy

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HEN

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50 Cent

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Nas

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Oh and here is Kayne west with Tom Freston CEO of Viacom...



hey see that logo in the back there with the hand? That reminds me of...

A hamsa


Where have I seen that recently?



And if that tom cruise picture wasn't enough before here's another.



Time to pick a side.

You should check out the whole thread if you are interested in this stuff.

illuminati-murderers-exposed-september-11-2006-t30450.html

[Megame23 Profile]

This thread is just on 2Pac

the-killuminati-theory-why-tupac-was-killed-t29281-10.html

His last Cd was Killuminati : the seven day theory. He was in his later interviews talking about things like a third party of government not republican or democrat, because those parties are working towards the same thing, control of the masses. He was waking up more and more to the corruption in this world, and had first heard about the Illuminati in prison, he didn't beleive it then. he was all about fighting fear and the man sure, but he thought the Illuminati thing was just to spread fear. But i think its clear by the time he died, he knew the Illuminati were real.

[whitedeath Profile]

So between February 14, 1995 when he entered prison.
And September 7 1996.
He went from unbeliever , to believer?

What would he have had to found out in such a short time to do this complete turn around?

edit: Sorry I did mean that with the most sincere of tones, to be fair then I will present an alternative view to what you said about tupac "knowing" the illuminati were real .

While in prison, he was able to read several books varying from philosophy, including the philosophy of politics. The art of war by sun tzu & more than a couple of Niccolò Machiavelli's books & thoughts.

My feeling is that someone with a creative mind that is always firing like tupac's would've been, given this time of solitude & thought. Alone with these books, came up with countless strategic plans aimed at going back "on top" through film & rap.

Needing a new catchy name, using the word that he had recently been introduced to . Illuminati, realsing the marketing potential especially if he could covertly play off people like the guy in the cell who told him all about this. Quickly thought up Killimuniati & ran with it.

Then before he managed to complete a significant part of his plans, he was killed. Leaving people to misinturpret his work & his meanings for the rest of time.

[Megame23 Profile]

will respond tomorrow, too tired to right now.

[whitedeath Profile]

No problem & I hope you see I meant the post in a good way.
I think having an alternative point of view is good for a healthy debate which can bring people closer to the truth(s)
Thanking you in advance

[Megame23 Profile]

So with Tupac It was clear that he was trying to say something about the Illuminati specifically. whether that was to kill the fear of an Illuminati that he didn't think existed, or to actually expose them is debatable.

He knew what they were, and mentioned the idea very specifically in an interview, where he says that's why i put the k to it, killing that Illuminati thing. But at that point he WAS talking about killing the idea of the Illuminati. In his last interviews he was quite aware of the corrupt system, but he was also still caught up in his old feuds with other rappers. So maybe he didn't see the full picture, and he just got himself killed over some dumb bullshit. If you listen to the songs on his last CD he all out attacks other rappers, like Nas and Jay-z. Yet in the interviews he seemed to be annoyed with them, saying we should end the east west bull shit, its not about that. The thing is that last CD came out AFTER he was killed.

The name o the CD was changed, by adding Don before the original title

making it Don Killuminati : the seven day theory

which makes it sound like he is a crime boss. tupac was changing his name to Machiavelli, it was to be his new rap name, to go along with his new fight for truth it seems. He had publicly renounced the thug life image, so why would he have wanted that Don thrown in? He didn't have power over what happened to that CD after he died... Maybe the tracks chosen for the CD and the name of the CD were changed around a bit, to make him look like more of his violent old self?

You have to speculate around tupac, there is no clear answers for us, but if you look at all the things he was saying, one thing is for sure. He was spreading a DAMN good message.

And now that he's dead, we have this ass hole on top.



Tupac's death certainly worked to their advantage...