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I'm not trying to fit in any box. Just stating the facts. I design and develop web based software for a living I'm also a consultant to numerous companies around the world. I know a thing or two about the interwebz.


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Senate bill 773, The Cybersecurity Act of 2009, was introduced in April and goes even further than this ACTA mess.


Always sounds like something I would hear in Terminator 2 : Judgement day when I read stuff like this, Gives me the willy's.

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I haven't seen any sort of education going on here. I come for a good laugh. It's like reading the Enquirer! I was talking to a friend of mine today who feels exactly as I do. This site has become a colossal joke. It's kind of an embarrassment to serious minded people who aren't trying to up the other guy on how cool their "story" is compared to the other. It's as if this site is over run by dorky teenagers or sad adults posting anything and everything then blowing it WAY out of proportion. Like I said, it's like the Enquirer....you see it in the supermarket checkout and can't help but pick it up to make fun of it.....SAME THING here. MANY of you, NOT all, are nothing but amusement. If it goes away.....oh well.


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must say I agree with that guy ^


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Funny the movie "Men in Black" said the same thing except they said it was all true.
Probably is, more so than mainsteam media!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

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Internet Alert.. Is DTV In Danger Of Being Shut Down?

Not likely, but If this was to actually happen, then I'm afraid the intellect part of humanity would lose the spiritual/mind war. Its NOT going to happen.

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I'm really done contributing to this thread. I know what I'm talking about people pay me thousands of dollars for my opinions when it comes to anything regarding the internet. I've provided the facts about how things work you can choose to listen to what I say or not; I really don't care. DTV is in no danger of being shut down end of story.


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Talking about internet censorship, found this interesting.

By CHARLES HUTZLER, Associated Press Writer Charles Hutzler, Associated Press Writer

SHANGHAI – President Barack Obama gave China a pointed, unexpected nudge to stop censoring the Internet access of its own people, offering an animated defense of the tool that helped him win the White House — and telling his tightly controlled hosts not to be wary of a little criticism.

"I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable," Obama said Monday in a town hall with students during his first-ever trip to China. "They can begin to think for themselves."

Just hours ahead of talks with Chinese President Hu Jintao, Obama tried to find a political balance, couching his admonitions with words of cooperation, praise and American humility. He said few global challenges can be solved unless the world's only superpower and its rising competitor work together, and he insisted: "We do not seek to contain China's rise."

But in his opening statement and in answers to the wide-ranging discussion with university students, Obama spoke bluntly about the benefits of individual freedoms in a place known for limiting them.

"We do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation," Obama said. Then he added that freedom of expression and worship, unfettered access to information and unrestricted political participation are not principles held by the United States; instead, he called them "universal rights."

The line offered echoes of Obama's predecessor, George W. Bush, who often talked of the "universality of freedom." Obama talked at length about the Internet, which he said helped him win the presidency because it allowed for the mobilization of young people like those in his audience in Shanghai.

"I'm a big supporter of non-censorship," Obama said. "I recognize that different countries have different traditions. I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have free Internet — or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged."

Given where Obama was speaking, such a comment carried strong implications. And he appeared to be talking directly to China's leaders when he said that he believes free discussion, including criticism that he sometimes finds annoying, makes him "a better leader because it forces me to hear opinions that I don't want to hear."

China has more than 250 million Internet users and employs some of the world's tightest controls over what they see. The country is often criticized for having the so-called "Great Firewall of China," which refers to technology designed to prevent unwanted traffic from entering or leaving a network.

Obama's town hall was not broadcast live across China on television. It was shown on local Shanghai TV and streamed online on two big national Internet portals, but the quality was choppy and hard to hear.

Obama is in the midst of a weeklong Asia trip. He came with a vast agenda of security, economic and environmental concerns, although always looming was how he would deal with human rights while in China.

The president left Shanghai after the event and landed a couple of hours later in Beijing on a cold afternoon.

His China visit features the only sightseeing of his journey. He will visit the Forbidden City, home of former emperors in Beijing, and the centuries-old Great Wall outside of the city. Aides have learned that finding some tourist time calms and energize their boss amid the grueling schedule of an international trip.

U.S. ambassador Jon Huntsman called Obama's event the first ever town-hall meeting held by a U.S. president in China. Yet former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush also spoke to students and took questions from them during stops in China.

China is a huge and lucrative market for American goods and services, and yet it has a giant trade surplus with the U.S. that, like a raft of other economic issues, is a bone of contention between the two governments. The two militaries have increased their contacts, but clashes still happen and the United States remains worried about a dramatic buildup in what is already the largest standing army in the world.

Amid all that, Obama has adopted a pragmatic approach that stresses the positive, sometimes earning him criticism for being too soft on Beijing — particularly in the area of human rights abuses and what the United States regards as an undervalued Chinese currency that disadvantages U.S. products.

The two nations are working together more than ever on battling global warming, but they still differ deeply over hard targets for reductions in the greenhouse-gas emissions that cause it. China has supported sterner sanctions to halt North Korea's nuclear weapons program, but it still balks at getting more aggressive about reining in Iran's uranium enrichment.

Obama recognizes that a rising China, as the world's third-largest economy — on its way to becoming the second — and the largest foreign holder of U.S. debt, has shifted the dynamic more toward one of equals. For instance, Chinese questions about how Washington spending policies will affect the already soaring U.S. deficit and the safety of Chinese investments now must be answered by Washington.

The White House hoped Monday's town hall meeting with Chinese university students would allow Obama to telegraph U.S. values — through its successes and failures — to the widest Chinese audience possible.

But those hopes had their limits in communist-ruled China.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091116/ap_on_bi_ge/obama


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I haven't seen any sort of education going on here. I come for a good laugh. It's like reading the Enquirer! I was talking to a friend of mine today who feels exactly as I do. This site has become a colossal joke. It's kind of an embarrassment to serious minded people who aren't trying to up the other guy on how cool their "story" is compared to the other. It's as if this site is over run by dorky teenagers or sad adults posting anything and everything then blowing it WAY out of proportion. Like I said, it's like the Enquirer....you see it in the supermarket checkout and can't help but pick it up to make fun of it.....SAME THING here. MANY of you, NOT all, are nothing but amusement. If it goes away.....oh well.


You must not be very much around...Grs9769....why dont you start a thread so we ignorant sheeps can be illuminated by your serious minded thoughts...

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I think we might just be screwed here. There is a legal issue around posting news bullitins, TV programmes, music, movies and the like. For example, the BBC can't show pictures of football SKY was covering without permission. On this basis I reckon internet sites don't have a leg to stand on and we can probably expect root and branch reform of the way the internet is run; espacially as convergence between existing media becomes a reality.

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