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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:14 pm 
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Thanks for this update Slush. :peep: WTF! This is the internet, censored YouTube? With the amount of uploads their get a day soft ware will have to be put in place to view them all. Is it like 75 000 vids a day? Who has got time to look at it all?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:16 pm 
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yeah it seems the elite is not happy about the way the internet
working , this is also :

Murdoch could block Google searches entirely
Bobbie Johnson in San Francisco
Monday 9 November 2009 09.08


Rupert Murdoch says he will remove stories from Google's search index as a way to encourage people to pay for content online.

In an interview with Sky News Australia, the mogul said that newspapers in his media empire – including the Sun, the Times and the Wall Street Journal – would consider blocking Google entirely once they had enacted plans to charge people for reading their stories on the web.

In recent months, Murdoch his lieutenants have stepped up their war of words with Google, accusing it of "kleptomania" and acting as a "parasite" for including News Corp content in its Google News pages. But asked why News Corp executives had not chosen to simply remove their websites entirely from Google's search indexes – a simple technical operation – Murdoch said just such a move was on the cards.

"I think we will, but that's when we start charging," he said. "We have it already with the Wall Street Journal. We have a wall, but it's not right to the ceiling. You can get, usually, the first paragraph from any story - but if you're not a paying subscriber to WSJ.com all you get is a paragraph and a subscription form."

The 78-year-old mogul's assertion, however, is not actually correct: users who click through to screened WSJ.com articles from Google searches are usually offered the full text of the story without any subscription block. It is only users who find their way to the story through the Wall Street Journal's website who are told they must subscribe before they can read further.

Murdoch added that he did not agree with the idea that search engines fell under "fair use" rules - an argument many aggregator websites use as part of their legal justification for reproducing excerpts of news stories online.

"There's a doctrine called fair use, which we believe to be challenged in the courts and would bar it altogether... but we'll take that slowly."

Murdoch's attitude towards the internet - which appeared to have thawed when he bought social networking site MySpace for $580m in 2005 - has stiffened more recently.

Over the summer, Murdoch had announced that he planned to introduce website charges by next year - but last week it emerged that his controversial plans had been delayed, saying that "I wouldn't promise that we're going to meet that date".

Additionally, it emerged that MySpace, which has struggled in the face of competition from Facebook in recent years, was due to fall short of its targets in a lucrative search deal with Google – a slip that could cost the site more than $100m in payments from the internet advertising giant.

In the Sky News Australia interview, Murdoch underlined his feelings towards those companies by listing a litany of names of those that he felt were overstepping the boundaries.

"The people who simply just pick up everything and run with it – steal our stories, we say they steal our stories - they just take them," he said. "That's Google, that's Microsoft, that's Ask.com, a whole lot of people ... they shouldn't have had it free all the time, and I think we've been asleep."

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should we assume that now the lion is awaken ? :top:

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I suppose the counter argument to that, Slushpup, is that someone is making money out of this site and there is protected material being circulated on here and elsewhere. They (the artists) would argue, I guess, that if someone is making money out of it then they deserve some.

It makes me wonder though if the carrot's chasing the donkey here and music and the arts are being used to further a much darker agenda.

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I don't get time to look at all the videos uploaded to DTV each day. Let alone the whole net. Law thing on copyright?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:21 pm 
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ogmios wrote:
I suppose the counter argument to that, Slushpup, is that someone is making money out of this site and there is protected material being circulated on here and elsewhere. They (the artists) would argue, I guess, that if someone is making money out of it then they desreve some.

Yeah that's about it.


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Interesting post slush - Funny this one .. I myself run a private bittorrent site which supplys the lesser sites so its busy - we had 5000 torrents - My friend down south runs the content side from a laptop which accesses like 7-8 servers that have all the content - He got raided 2 nights ago at 3 am and the asshats got absolutley nothing but released him on bail pending investigation so i can safely confirm this is indeed going on - later tonight i'll get my friend to post he's very clever and battles this very subject on the politics side :nwo: Now there buttering this up saying the industry is losing major money .. Ha Ha so they never made 150 million last year only 120 million , makes me sick and if you actually asked all the artists, up and coming movie directors musicians ect ect they will all counter that without the freedom of the internet then they wouldnt stand a chance getting there material out there. So bittorrent is actually helping the people like us but hurting the coporate fat cats pockets so there playing hard ball :bang;


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Dam Rockefeller's :yell:

Don't know what to say really..

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@mindless i couldnt agree with you more, i think the internet was underestimated and got out of control and they want that back.

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Interesting post slush - Funny this one .. I myself run a private bittorrent site which supplys the lesser sites so its busy - we had 5000 torrents - My friend down south runs the content side from a laptop which accesses like 7-8 servers that have all the content - He got raided 2 nights ago at 3 am and the asshats got absolutley nothing but released him on bail pending investigation so i can safely confirm this is indeed going on - later tonight i'll get my friend to post he's very clever and battles this very subject on the politics side Now there buttering this up saying the industry is losing major money .. Ha Ha so they never made 150 million last year only 120 million , makes me sick and if you actually asked all the artists, up and coming movie directors musicians ect ect they will all counter that without the freedom of the internet then they wouldnt stand a chance getting there material out there. So bittorrent is actually helping the people like us but hurting the coporate fat cats pockets so there playing hard ball


Just because the internet allows easy access doesn't necessarily mean that it should all be free. This had to happen. If a site is simply for file sharing and doesn't make any money then the legal argument is different but if money is being made - from ad's or elsewhere - surely the artists who produced the stuff deserve a cut.

Wasn't there a furore about this between Youtube and the PRS recently?

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Fucking Brilliant!!!! Now what do we do???? if our only voice is silenced we have no weapon against the NWO. I fear the time is nearing for a revolution.....Did you hear me echelon?...coup de'tat!!!! I want my country back!! I want my freedoms back, I want my voice back!!

The day they take the internet from us is the day every man, woman and child must mobilise and make their voice heard.

We are running out of time........

Any NWO denialists here need to fucking wake up (hate to coin the phrase) and realise the final phases for complete enslavement of mankind is underway and we don't have the time for infighting and debate. Action is needed and i don't know in what form it should take.

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