Iran/N Korea, what shall we do?

[Txrandy41 Profile]

I can't understand why the US continues to sit back and do nothing about Iran or N Korea, we keep placing sanctions that never work and then act surprised when it doesn't work. The abuse and neglect in those horrible places will never stop and it doesn't matter what we say or do, they are barbarians and still live as if the dark ages were the present. Isn't it time to put up or shut up? The US is starting to look as if we fight wars with words and hide when the real battle is threatened, ( for all of you thinking Iraq is an example, you are wrong ) Iraq could have been done with years ago but we have failed AS ALWAYS to finish a war. The US continues to put our Soldiers in harms way and nothing is ever accomplished, now Obama wants to pull them out WHAT A DAMN JOKE..That's like building a roller coaster and not installing the tracks, just hoping the cars will not fall off, what is wrong with our country? why don't the American people stand up and say NO MORE!??? It's funny how so many people complain but do nothing, I have gone to countless rallies to only find a handful of people there, and so the few make no difference. Solution to problem is simple--- Turn Iran and N Korea into a sheet of glass and be done with it, or just leave them alone. Stop wasting our money and stop hurting our soldiers for causes that don't matter to our country, Oil and gas are not worth it...War for peace? HMMMM! when has war ever ended with peace? It may be hard to believe but our Gov works for us, thats why we pay them..

[Samejj Profile]

ive used the glass comment many times,good post.

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I can't understand why the US continues to sit back and do nothing about Iran or N Korea, we keep placing sanctions that never work and then act surprised when it doesn't work. The abuse and neglect in those horrible places will never stop and it doesn't matter what we say or do, they are barbarians and still live as if the dark ages were the present. Isn't it time to put up or shut up? The US is starting to look as if we fight wars with words and hide when the real battle is threatened, ( for all of you thinking Iraq is an example, you are wrong ) Iraq could have been done with years ago but we have failed AS ALWAYS to finish a war. The US continues to put our Soldiers in harms way and nothing is ever accomplished, now Obama wants to pull them out WHAT A DAMN JOKE..That's like building a roller coaster and not installing the tracks, just hoping the cars will not fall off, what is wrong with our country? why don't the American people stand up and say NO MORE!??? It's funny how so many people complain but do nothing, I have gone to countless rallies to only find a handful of people there, and so the few make no difference. Solution to problem is simple--- Turn Iran and N Korea into a sheet of glass and be done with it, or just leave them alone. Stop wasting our money and stop hurting our soldiers for causes that don't matter to our country, Oil and gas are not worth it...War for peace? HMMMM! when has war ever ended with peace? It may be hard to believe but our Gov works for us, thats why we pay them..

you are quiet brainwashed - turn off your tv

[Drextin Profile]

I can't understand why the US continues to sit back and do nothing about Iran or N Korea, we keep placing sanctions that never work and then act surprised when it doesn't work. The abuse and neglect in those horrible places will never stop and it doesn't matter what we say or do, they are barbarians and still live as if the dark ages were the present. Isn't it time to put up or shut up? The US is starting to look as if we fight wars with words and hide when the real battle is threatened, ( for all of you thinking Iraq is an example, you are wrong ) Iraq could have been done with years ago but we have failed AS ALWAYS to finish a war. The US continues to put our Soldiers in harms way and nothing is ever accomplished, now Obama wants to pull them out WHAT A DAMN JOKE..That's like building a roller coaster and not installing the tracks, just hoping the cars will not fall off, what is wrong with our country? why don't the American people stand up and say NO MORE!??? It's funny how so many people complain but do nothing, I have gone to countless rallies to only find a handful of people there, and so the few make no difference. Solution to problem is simple--- Turn Iran and N Korea into a sheet of glass and be done with it, or just leave them alone. Stop wasting our money and stop hurting our soldiers for causes that don't matter to our country, Oil and gas are not worth it...War for peace? HMMMM! when has war ever ended with peace? It may be hard to believe but our Gov works for us, thats why we pay them..

[Hybridalienrob Profile]

I'm starting to think there's a lot more (or rather less!) to the iran election story than the western media are telling us. The four points often touted by the media are pretty much defeated in this article i read via disclose yesterday http://www.rense.com/general86/hap.htm

Basically, it's entirely feasible that the election was called so early because each voting station only handles an average of less than 1000 votes & the results are transmitted electronicaly to Terran, and crutially, a US commisioned survey done prior to the election indicated pretty much the same ratio of votes to Armedinajad & his opponents.

I'm also reading now that the woman who was shot earlier in the week at one of the demonstations may have been shot by a foreign intellegence agency, i.e mossad / cia to provoke a reaction & generate civil unrest. Wouldn't put it past them at all - would you ?

[Mep630 Profile]

I don't think america should do anything in Iran or N. Korea.

We already have 2 major wars going on right now, and our military forces have been in the battlefield way to long for any sane person. Stretching so thin, all around the world like this will most certainly cause problems for our military.

We kill more people daily then Iran ever has. These people in congress thinks our army can do anything, well we cant, there is the human factor, and look at all the soldiers killing themselves as it is! More war fronts will destroy our military.

USA wants nothing less then world domination, but they are biting off more then they can chew. All these fronts, if countries like China and Russia step in to counter us, then we could easily be looking at destruction as a nation.

I have said this many times before, our military can not handle another 10 year of war with a real army like Russia and China. Hell Iran is a lot bigger then people realize, and they are gearing up for anti air defense. If we have problems bombing them, then we are screwed. We could always nuke them, but once one nuclear weapon is used you can be sure that a whole lot of them will be flying.

All these people trying to push war, have no clue about warfare, nor about military leadership. They are treating our soldiers like used tampons, it is not long before these soldiers wake up and start sabotaging our own works! Not to mention it would be easy for any country to infiltrate our military now as we allow foreigners in now.

America is poised for a big fall, over confidence is always a disaster in war. Hell everyone though Hitler could not be stopped, and in the end he was crushed.

The Neda girl is too fucking ironic, all these Americans up in arms about a girl who died, who we got no real clue who killed her, WHEN in fact we kill THOUSANDS of NEDA's daily in Iraq and Afghanistan, but you hear nothing for them.

America has been wanting war with Iran for years now, and Iran knows this, and is preparing for it. The element of surprise is gone, which will make it much harder an attack. Sure we got high tech stuff, but so does Russia and China, and they will both defend and arm Iran because they know if Iran falls they will be next.

Iran is the road to WW3, but people do not realize this. Iran supplies Russia and China with cheap oil to keep them allies. Russia and China will not let America stomp Iran into the ground like we did Iraq.

More then anything though is the lessons learned from USMC general Smedley Butler, who clearly will tell you war is a scam for the Bankers. Our military is nothing less then a global mob.

The Iraq war is about getting ownership of their oil fields to international oil companies! Do you research this is easy to find!

Afghanistan is all about controlling the poppy trade and fields.

Iran will be the same as Iraq, the war will be used to gain control of Iran's oil resources to international oil companies. If we attack Iran we will kill hundreds of thousands of Neda's and at that time you will not give a shit about her, or many like her, like you don't give a shit about all the innocent civilians our military KILLS DAILY!

But more then anything, I dont care about these countries as much as I care for our poor soldiers, forced to fight this illegal and false war on civilians so we can take their resources. Our soldiers have been in the war zones too long and an attack on Iran would mean that a draft or some other mandatory military service will be needed to have enough bodies to fight!

End the war, end the occupations, bring our soldiers home, let Iran figure out and deal with its own problems, we got more then enough to worry about with our dollar collapsing and all the government spending on war is just making more debt for us and our children to pay off! It is not long before the dollar fails and china is already making moves to drop us.

We got enough problems as a country, we can't handle another two war fronts. Your talking about fighting on china's and russia's door steps and they are not going to take that lightly and are by no means anyone to disregard as military forces. America is bad ass, but so was Hitler's Germany and in the end when they made too many enemies they were crushed.

I dont think Nato can take on the world, I think they think so in theory, but the sizes of the armies that they face is simply too much to handle with a small high tech force. Part of war is attrition and we are already weakened as a force. China and Russia are prepared and well rested for a war.

War with Iran will do us American civilians NO good! It will cause more debt, will make Americans more of a target world wide and will most likely end up with martial law and or a military draft here at home. On top of all the soldiers and civilians around the world that will be killed............................

[Wrathofkahn Profile]

I'm starting to think there's a lot more (or rather less!) to the iran election story than the western media are telling us. The four points often touted by the media are pretty much defeated in this article i read via disclose yesterday http://www.rense.com/general86/hap.htm

Basically, it's entirely feasible that the election was called so early because each voting station only handles an average of less than 1000 votes & the results are transmitted electronicaly to Terran, and crutially, a US commisioned survey done prior to the election indicated pretty much the same ratio of votes to Armedinajad & his opponents.

I'm also reading now that the woman who was shot earlier in the week at one of the demonstations may have been shot by a foreign intellegence agency, i.e mossad / cia to provoke a reaction & generate civil unrest. Wouldn't put it past them at all - would you ?

I dont know if you are a newbie to the conspiracy world but if you are, try to take everything you read at Rense.com with a grain of salt! Rense can get pretty far into left field!

[Cornbread714 Profile]

I don't think america should do anything in Iran or N. Korea.

We already have 2 major wars going on right now, and our military forces have been in the battlefield way to long for any sane person. Stretching so thin, all around the world like this will most certainly cause problems for our military.

We kill more people daily then Iran ever has. These people in congress thinks our army can do anything, well we cant, there is the human factor, and look at all the soldiers killing themselves as it is! More war fronts will destroy our military.

USA wants nothing less then world domination, but they are biting off more then they can chew. All these fronts, if countries like China and Russia step in to counter us, then we could easily be looking at destruction as a nation.

I have said this many times before, our military can not handle another 10 year of war with a real army like Russia and China. Hell Iran is a lot bigger then people realize, and they are gearing up for anti air defense. If we have problems bombing them, then we are screwed. We could always nuke them, but once one nuclear weapon is used you can be sure that a whole lot of them will be flying.

All these people trying to push war, have no clue about warfare, nor about military leadership. They are treating our soldiers like used tampons, it is not long before these soldiers wake up and start sabotaging our own works! Not to mention it would be easy for any country to infiltrate our military now as we allow foreigners in now.

America is poised for a big fall, over confidence is always a disaster in war. Hell everyone though Hitler could not be stopped, and in the end he was crushed.

The Neda girl is too fucking ironic, all these Americans up in arms about a girl who died, who we got no real clue who killed her, WHEN in fact we kill THOUSANDS of NEDA's daily in Iraq and Afghanistan, but you hear nothing for them.

America has been wanting war with Iran for years now, and Iran knows this, and is preparing for it. The element of surprise is gone, which will make it much harder an attack. Sure we got high tech stuff, but so does Russia and China, and they will both defend and arm Iran because they know if Iran falls they will be next.

Iran is the road to WW3, but people do not realize this. Iran supplies Russia and China with cheap oil to keep them allies. Russia and China will not let America stomp Iran into the ground like we did Iraq.

More then anything though is the lessons learned from USMC general Smedley Butler, who clearly will tell you war is a scam for the Bankers. Our military is nothing less then a global mob.

The Iraq war is about getting ownership of their oil fields to international oil companies! Do you research this is easy to find!

Afghanistan is all about controlling the poppy trade and fields.

Iran will be the same as Iraq, the war will be used to gain control of Iran's oil resources to international oil companies. If we attack Iran we will kill hundreds of thousands of Neda's and at that time you will not give a shit about her, or many like her, like you don't give a shit about all the innocent civilians our military KILLS DAILY!

But more then anything, I dont care about these countries as much as I care for our poor soldiers, forced to fight this illegal and false war on civilians so we can take their resources. Our soldiers have been in the war zones too long and an attack on Iran would mean that a draft or some other mandatory military service will be needed to have enough bodies to fight!

End the war, end the occupations, bring our soldiers home, let Iran figure out and deal with its own problems, we got more then enough to worry about with our dollar collapsing and all the government spending on war is just making more debt for us and our children to pay off! It is not long before the dollar fails and china is already making moves to drop us.

We got enough problems as a country, we can't handle another two war fronts. Your talking about fighting on china's and russia's door steps and they are not going to take that lightly and are by no means anyone to disregard as military forces. America is bad ass, but so was Hitler's Germany and in the end when they made too many enemies they were crushed.

I dont think Nato can take on the world, I think they think so in theory, but the sizes of the armies that they face is simply too much to handle with a small high tech force. Part of war is attrition and we are already weakened as a force. China and Russia are prepared and well rested for a war.

War with Iran will do us American civilians NO good! It will cause more debt, will make Americans more of a target world wide and will most likely end up with martial law and or a military draft here at home. On top of all the soldiers and civilians around the world that will be killed............................

I agree with a lot of this, Mep.
If you could state your arguments this calmly and clearly on a regular basis, people might listen to what you have to say.

[Drextin Profile]

I agree with a lot of this, Mep.
If you could state your arguments this calmly and clearly on a regular basis, people might listen to what you have to say.

Cb, look at the writing style. Those are not his thoughts. They are plagiarized from someone else. If you notice he has made some of the same points on other threads using some of the same language but meppin it up at the same time. This post here by him is where he is getting his ideas from.

[Lowsix Profile]

I can't understand why the US continues to sit back and do nothing about Iran or N Korea, we keep placing sanctions that never work and then act surprised when it doesn't work. The abuse and neglect in those horrible places will never stop and it doesn't matter what we say or do, they are barbarians and still live as if the dark ages were the present. Isn't it time to put up or shut up? The US is starting to look as if we fight wars with words and hide when the real battle is threatened, ( for all of you thinking Iraq is an example, you are wrong ) Iraq could have been done with years ago but we have failed AS ALWAYS to finish a war. The US continues to put our Soldiers in harms way and nothing is ever accomplished, now Obama wants to pull them out WHAT A DAMN JOKE..That's like building a roller coaster and not installing the tracks, just hoping the cars will not fall off, what is wrong with our country? why don't the American people stand up and say NO MORE!??? It's funny how so many people complain but do nothing, I have gone to countless rallies to only find a handful of people there, and so the few make no difference. Solution to problem is simple--- Turn Iran and N Korea into a sheet of glass and be done with it, or just leave them alone. Stop wasting our money and stop hurting our soldiers for causes that don't matter to our country, Oil and gas are not worth it...War for peace? HMMMM! when has war ever ended with peace? It may be hard to believe but our Gov works for us, thats why we pay them..

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