Russia and Chavez, and it's not an accusation there is more than enough evidence to support the theory.

Chavez is not Kooky he just hates big brother, if you actually listen to him ( the man not the leader) you can tell he knows what he is talking about, but once you put him in front of a TV and give him personality he has to put on a show...

something the American Government is master of..

Lowsix the SA 300 is definitely not AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE OF A MISSILE.

we can shoot it down with our patriot Missiles on one of our many overseas set ups.

not to mention that we can shoot the missiles down ( they take 5 minutes to set up and launch) during take off (Which climbing rate is more than 5 minutes) when it is fighting with gravity to gain altitude..

they are penetrable so where did you get that they weren't stoppable?

Lowsix you talk like you are still stuck in the cold war.

it's nice to see that you are watching out for other countries, it really is...

but what is even more confusing is that you refuse to believe that America is part of a NWO plot, but other countries would de-populate us and destroy us NWO style no problem...

I bet you 10 dollars nothing arises from this, since you want to challenge my views on what I give my opinion on I will test it here.

10 dollars are you game?

or perhaps I could purchase one of your magnificent paintings for a suitable price if I lose.

Note: I would also like to add that CHINA is mostly run and operated under the guise of British protocol. if you look at shanghai and Hong Kong / Kowloon you can see the British influence in China is strong. in fact that was one of the bases for them starting there economic thunderstorm.. so I doubt that China would attack one of Britians most trusted Allies over Iran...

it just doesn't make sense. legal contract are only as good as the gasoline you put on it to burn later.

My initial post doesnt have a thing to do with my beliefs or who i am looking out for, NOR does it mean i was tying what he said he would announce, to this last post you quoted.

You have implied all KINDS of shit into it.
I simply reported what he said....
That he would deal a blow to the Global powers.

We then speculated on what that would be.
Nobody suggested anything wild or insane.

Personally I think it will have something to do with the delivery of the SA 300's that concrete mentioned..or the Nuclear Plants going online.

That quote you quoted was a simple, fact based answer to
Sockpuppet saying that China and Iran might become closer.
They already have.

And Formal orders of Protection are historically Adhered to...as a general rule.

Exactly, and that is why I was commenting on what you said alone.

OK, then what you said doesn't make a lick of sense.

At....all.

1. SA 300 Missile can not be shot down according to you.

my answer: yes they can be shot down.

2. China has to legally fulfill there contract to stand up and fight for Iran.

My Answer: the British influence in China is greater than that of Iran, so the Invasion of Iran would more than likely not happen with the help of China due to the brotherhood of Britian influence in China vs going against America for a "contract"

yes it does make sense. doesn't matter if it doesn't go with your original post, I was merely commenting on the "facts" of your last response.

It is you that thinks China and Iran are getting closer based on a business contract.

Yes because in the real world..investors to the sum
of 60-100 billion dollars generally like to protect their investments.
And unless Britain just agreed to replace the Chinese losses,
then theres not a shit ton they could do about China's preferred response.

No more than Japan could stop us from living up to OUR formal protection orders with Taiwan, which have been stated over and over again, to be honored in case China attacks taiwan.

Its a principle that's been in effect on the planet
since the first monkey clubbed his cousin for taking his bannana.

Now its not my fault if that bit of common sense escapes your contrarian sensibilities, but it really is how shit works out there...

Never said they cant be shot down, but they are emplaced as air defenses, and israel cant strike ALL of them, because their fighters don't have the range to fly that far, and then run around the desert hunting sam sites. UNLESS they launch from Iraq...or used tankers..which they would have to do.

They only reason they made it to Osirak was that they weren't facing any serious challenges in the air.

To get there, they would have to sneak across jordan, and across iraq, and they would need refueling tankers which are super easy prey to the Multiple battalions of advanced s300 Iran has ordered, if indeed they are delivered on time.

The tankers would be like shooting ducks in a barrel with the s300s,
and they could not mount enough Fighter jets to take them all out.
They would have to sneak OVER Jordan, and past the Turks and the Syrians who also have s300s.

"…Iran has built a dense aerial-defense system that will make it hard for Israeli planes to reach their targets unscathed. Among other things, the Iranians have deployed batteries of Hawk, SA-5 and SA-2 surface-to-air missiles, plus they have SA-7, SA-15, Rapier, Crotale and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles. Furthermore, 1,700 anti-aircraft guns protect the nuclear facilities – not to mention the 158 combat aircraft that might take part in defending Iran’s skies. Most of those planes are outdated, but they may be scrambled to intercept the IAF, which will thus have to use part of its strike force to deal with the situation.

…All these obstacles are nothing compared to the S-300V (SA-12 Giant) anti-aircraft defense system, which…Russia may have secretly supplied to Iran recently…The Russian system is so sophisticated and tamper-proof that the aircraft attrition rates could reach 20-30 percent: In other words, out of a strike force of 90 aircraft, 20 to 25 would be downed. This, the authors say, is “a loss Israel would hardly accept in paying.”" -Anthony Cordesman

And those attrition rates are not even considering the bulk of their Air defenses.
That is JUST for the S300vs.

Hezbollah launched 4000 rockets at Isreal and they were simply not able to do anything about them, it paralyzed the country for a month...so knocking one or two missiles down out of the multiple batallions that are likely to be deployed wouldnt mean a thing to the iranians.

Anyhow, you've managed to derail the intent of the thread with an entirely pointless interjection, so my responses end here...

I SIMPLY mentioned that Iran was blustering again, nothing more nothing less.
If you need to make it about more than that, feel free to continue by yourself.

once again lowsix, cold war syndrome

contracts = legitimacy in your eyes..

lowsix said:


but lowsix said earlier:


so you lied there lowsix.

America along with their allies has the biggest arsenal on the face of the planet, but we are supposed to be worried about the SA 300s ( which you said we can't shoot down, then said we could as I demonstrated above) and a few other missiles that IRAN would have? OK that makes a lot of sense ( just to clarify from this last post)

The article you posted (about the SA 300) is typical fear mongering, yes they have all this equipment but Israel and America are just backing each other for the hell of it, and they also fight with sticks and stones.... not to mention that is an opinion of one man, not actual evidence of what arsenal they do have, Which if I might add we don't know what they have hence, DOES IRAN HAVE NUKES!?!?!?!?!

and just so you don't slander and plagiarize my post to fit with your motives..

Lowsix said:


1. I never said that Iran "would" attack, you were the one posting a message from the horses mouth ( you have a thing with horses), with a fear campaign and stating "I don't know what he is thinking." but still continuing with the article and addressing questions implicating that they would attack, and if they did here is possibly how it would be ( along with the few other comments that you addressed and agreed with HENCE the SA 300s that you lied about)

2. if you do remember right I clearly 100% fool proof said I was addressing your comment, not your topic or other peoples posts here is the proof against your lie for that one as well:

JetXVII Said:


said alone means what you said by your own opinion... DUH!!! that does not include an article or testament of a raving lunatic.

Low Six Said:


1. they were just blustering nothing more nothing less? so you were not just discussing how and where they would attack and what policies and contracts would be voided or held accountable? or how if they shot a missile that can be shot down they wouldn't be able to shoot it down just because lowsix said so?


2. I never said anything about misleading or going off subject about anything if you want to know what I said before read it and again and understand. I realize this is a typical lowsix tactic to put words in other peoples mouth, or discredit them to make you seem like the victim, but you are lying again.

Circular Logic lowsix..

you just wasted a ton of time.