Is Self Reliance The Answer?

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:01 pm » by **domdabears**

Very well put hesop. I'm just not as articulate as you. :oops:

towelie, maybe you should become a spy and catch these arse holes red handed with complete solid evidence, then not get caught or killed before the trial and make sure the judge isn't paid off. If you can do it, i could see that working. :flop:

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:07 pm » by **Towelie**

domdabears wrote:towelie, maybe you should become a spy and catch these arse holes red handed with complete solid evidence, then not get caught or killed before the trial and make sure the judge isn't paid off. If you can do it, i could see that working.

And why do i have to become a spy? catch them with evidence about what the evidence to what ive said about the NWO is already out there. Or is that jus cos i dont agree with you?

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:16 pm » by **domdabears**

towelie wrote:
domdabears wrote:towelie, maybe you should become a spy and catch these arse holes red handed with complete solid evidence, then not get caught or killed before the trial and make sure the judge isn't paid off. If you can do it, i could see that working.

And why do i have to become a spy? catch them with evidence about what the evidence to what ive said about the NWO is already out there. Or is that jus cos i dont agree with you?

Why arent these guys behind bars already then?

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:17 pm » by **Theshee**

Little steps towelie... with little steps self-sufficiency CAN become global-sufficiency :flop:

People do live self sufficient within cities too, not just in the countryside. If more people took more responsibility for their lives we would be on the right track. People don't need much to be able to survive, they WANT everything and most want it yesterday, there is a big difference between need and want. We have become lazy as a society because THEY have us this way, So yes we need to change our lives NOT to accommodate the corporations etc but to change this world who is hurting as much as the people who live on it. I believe we can help each other along the way. I think it can be done but it takes people pulling together to make a stand x

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:26 pm » by **Towelie**

Firstly no there not behind bars are they, but do you think theyll get there if all we do is become self-reliant. Theres only one real anwer but using buzz words like revolution on the net is never a good idea.
I dont think i can ever go for self reliance in the way youre all on about, i just dont think its nescessary we honestly do have the technology to do these things for us.

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:29 pm » by **Hesop**

towelie wrote:i do get the whole self-sufficent thing ive spent my whole youth "sleeping rough" on the beach and places its all cliffs, fields and sheep here but i just dont think this is the way to go now, maybe 50-100yrs bak but it doesnt have to be done like that now. We can supply the citys and towns and our present lifestyle we need to change the system we are like battered wives they beat us into submission a long time ago.

I think we can all agree it does have to change drastically but i know i culdnt think of the new "rules"

I kinda believe that there will be a catastrophic event that will decimate the population. It will come to that for any radical changes to emerge. Maintaining an awareness of possible means for supplying and generating power can help survivors from repeating past mistakes, and allow for a much quicker recovery to what should be. We have wind farms in several areas near here. The electric companies built the motors, and many of the oil companies own the property and formed the seperate companies that install and operates them. Kinda self defeating isn't it? Like in many other things, what could, and should be a more simple devise, they have managed to turn into a rocket science, that the average person couldn't begin to understand. They are extremely expensive, and don't have a very long life span. It shouldn't be this way.
This is the system we need to change. This is how they have managed to maintain and strengthen their control. Because our societies have seen such dramatic advances in sophisticated technology, we have become to expect it in everything. Wrong idea. Generating power IS, and SHOULD be, simple. Those that have re-discovered this, and brought it to public attention, have faced vandalism and threats by those that hold the power. (see/search the Bedini motor=eye opener). That is why it will take a catastrophy for the change to take place. So I do agree with your line of thinking in many ways. Hopefully, enough that understand simplicty of self sufficiency will survive to lead the change.

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:31 pm » by **Towelie**

Its to hold the tech back free power means more freedom.

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:37 pm » by **Hesop**

theshee wrote:Little steps towelie... with little steps self-sufficiency CAN become global-sufficiency People do live self sufficient within cities too, not just in the countryside. If more people took more responsibility for their lives we would be on the right track. People don't need much to be able to survive, they WANT everything and most want it yesterday, there is a big difference between need and want. We have become lazy as a society because THEY have us this way, So yes we need to change our lives NOT to accommodate the corporations etc but to change this world who is hurting as much as the people who live on it. I believe we can help each other along the way. I think it can be done but it takes people pulling together to make a stand x

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:37 pm » by **Hesop**

towelie wrote:Its to hold the tech back free power means more freedom.

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:39 pm » by **domdabears**

Good stuff guys (everyone) :flop:

I'll be back on later. I'm gonna go make me a penny stove. Just because i can :lol: