IS THE MOON MAN-MADE?

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PostFri Dec 20, 2013 10:37 pm » by kentrb


I guess if the moon controls the tides.. then it needs to be there right?

Then if we are also 70% water.. how does it effect us? Just ask any Police station how busy they get on full moons.. that's but one example.. Im sure there's more to it than that..

Let's assume it's artificial.. What are it's reasons for it being there? Is it to control the flow of our evolution? To keep us in some sort of quarantine? Make it a base for aliens, making it easier for them to visit us - what for I don't really know.. Or a physical aspect, like allow the earth to be liveable by control the flow of the oceans etc?[/quote]


perhaps the moon is a ball of ice,covered in dust
ive been tossing that around in my head for a bit
not ready to toss it out yet,lol

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PostFri Dec 20, 2013 10:48 pm » by Malogg


God the creator made man in his Image

If thata true then yes man made the moon bahahahaha
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PostFri Dec 20, 2013 10:59 pm » by DarkHeart


Remember the "Grail Mission" NASA sent to the moon with twin satellites Ebb & Flow to do a geo-phys survey of whats below the surface ?

Wheres the results NASA ????
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PostSat Dec 21, 2013 1:04 am » by iamanalien


lol great topic , the moon is a giant listening device it listens to all our communications and sends it through out the galaxy , but whos listening?????.

every planet has 1 ,this is how the software program works and keeps an eye on its subjects , that's us and aliens , and it can terminate us whenever it wants or gets viruses just like your computer.

nothing is real we are all in a program called the electric universe we are stuck here running around doing what the program wants, until it terminates us theres nothing we can do to save ourselves from the program so be happy ,you have already lived your life your just going over old ground to see if the program can make you or your earth better , if not extinction is our cure.

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PostSat Dec 21, 2013 1:18 am » by Thebluecanary


DarkHeart wrote:Remember the "Grail Mission" NASA sent to the moon with twin satellites Ebb & Flow to do a geo-phys survey of whats below the surface ?

Wheres the results NASA ????



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PostSat Dec 21, 2013 1:23 am » by Thebluecanary


kentrb wrote:I guess if the moon controls the tides.. then it needs to be there right?

Then if we are also 70% water.. how does it effect us? Just ask any Police station how busy they get on full moons.. that's but one example.. Im sure there's more to it than that..

Let's assume it's artificial.. What are it's reasons for it being there? Is it to control the flow of our evolution? To keep us in some sort of quarantine? Make it a base for aliens, making it easier for them to visit us - what for I don't really know.. Or a physical aspect, like allow the earth to be liveable by control the flow of the oceans etc?



perhaps the moon is a ball of ice,covered in dust
ive been tossing that around in my head for a bit
not ready to toss it out yet,lol

:cheers:[/quote]

Well, it could be anything. If you're imagining that there was once an advanced civilization on this planet that destroyed itself, it could have been a space station for any number of purposes both scientific and martial. The fact that it serves to stabilize the tides and the earth's "wobble" could imply that it was created specifically for that purpose, as well. Or it could have been an unintended bonus...

But, then, many planets have moons. So if ours was potentially artificially created, were those artificial too? And if so, does that imply that all planets with moons were once inhabited, or at least reachable by a civilization within our solar system?
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PostSat Dec 21, 2013 1:25 am » by kentrb



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PostSat Dec 21, 2013 1:47 am » by RATRODROB


Thebluecanary wrote:
DarkHeart wrote:Remember the "Grail Mission" NASA sent to the moon with twin satellites Ebb & Flow to do a geo-phys survey of whats below the surface ?

Wheres the results NASA ????



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GRAIL Mission solves 50-year old Mystery of Lunar Surface Gravity: GRAIL Science Reports



Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter photographs GRAIL Crash Site

March 19, 2013


The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera has successfully acquired images of the crash sites of the two GRAIL Spacecraft that were purposefully crashed into the Lunar Surface on December 17, 2012 after completing their science mission mapping the Moon's gravity in unprecedented detail.

The LRO Camera passed over the crash site, the southern slope of a mountain that lies south of the crater Mouchez and northeast of the crater Philolaus in February and imaged the area to allow teams to look for the two impact craters.

The two GRAIL spacecraft left craters with a diameter of about five meters with dark ejecta located around the craters with less ejecta in the south because the GRAIL twins were approaching their crash site from south to north. The dark ejecta are currently puzzling scientists because ejecta from fresh craters on the Moon typically have a higher reflectance than the target material because the subsurface regolith of the Moon is lighter toned that than found directly at the surface. This is due to the effects of cosmic radiation, solar wind, and micrometeorite impacts that cause the uppermost layer of regolith to darken.

The current theory is that carbon from the spacecraft and its leftover fuel caused the regolith to darken. Due to the energy of impact, the carbon from the spacecraft may have been released and mixed with and coated the ejecta.

With LRO providing imagery of the crash site, it is now possible to precisely locate the final resting place of the two spacecraft on the 2,500 meter high mountain:

•GRAIL-A: 75.609°N, 333.407°E, 750 meters above surrounding plains

•GRAIL-B: 75.651°N, 333.168°E, 1,040 meters above surrounding plains


The two impact craters are about 2,210 meters apart.

















GRAIL Twins crash into the Moon to complete highly successful Mission


December 17, 2012


NASA’s Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory (GRAIL) Spacecraft have ended their mission on Monday by making a targeted crash landing on the lunar surface. The mission of the two washing-machine-sized spacecraft, named Ebb and Flow, had a duration of 464 days. The twin vehicles spent the majority of that in lunar orbit.

NASA’s GRAIL twins launched atop a United Launch Alliance Delta II Rocket from the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on September 10, 2011. After their exciting ride to orbit, the two spacecraft parted ways, making a slow, but fuel-efficient, low-energy transfer to the Moon via the Sun-Earth Lagrange Point L1. This trajectory was chosen to allow the two spacecraft to separate in order to allow teams to focus on one spacecraft at a time during Lunar Orbit Insertion. Also, during the long cruise, the two spacecraft underwent checkouts of their amazingly precise science payloads.

GRAIL-A (Ebb) arrived in lunar orbit on New Year’s Eve, firing its main engine for 40 minutes to slow itself down by nearly 700 Kilometers per Hour in order to enter an elliptical orbit.



The other twin, GRAIL-B (Flow) made its Lunar Orbit Insertion Burn on January 1, 2012 to set the stage for a year filled with a variety of operations in lunar orbit, also kicking off a precisely choreographed sequence of maneuvers that the two vehicles executed in order to enter their science formation. It took about two months to get the two spacecraft organized – placing the twins in an identical orbit, flying in close formation with Flow leading the way and Ebb hanging back by about 150 Kilometers. Once both spacecraft were in position, the busy science phase of the mission began. The first of three Mapping Cycles of the Moon began on March 7, 2012.

GRAIL used two spacecraft flying in close formation in lunar orbit to measure the Moon’s gravity at an unprecedented accuracy. Measurements were made by using doppler shifting which utilizes changes in an orbiter’s radio frequency that changes as the spacecraft’s orbital velocity varies ever so slightly due to the gravitational field of the body it orbits. If a spacecraft flies over an area of concentrated gravity, it is pulled down and speeds up, and when it flies over an area where the gravitational field is weaker, it slows down. This can be measured via doppler tracking using the spacecraft to emit radio waves that are picked up by ground stations on Earth.


Because the Moon only shows one side of it to Earth, two spacecraft are needed to generate a full gravity map, because a single spacecraft could not be tracked from Earth while in eclipse, hidden by the Moon. The two GRAIL spacecraft tracked the other’s relative velocity with an accuracy of 50 nanometers per second to examine even slight variations in the gravitational field of the Moon, both, on a global and local scale.

Along with GRAIL’s Science Mission, another project involving the two GRAIL twins began. MoonKAM, operated by Sally Ride Science, flew four cameras on each of the two vehicles to acquire images requested by students around the world. Nearly 120,000 images acquired by MoonKAM have been published to date. MoonKAM was used to engage middle school students into learning about the Moon by analyzing images they requested to be taken by GRAIL MoonKAM.

On May 29, 2012, after three Mapping Cycles, GRAIL’s primary science mission ended. At that time, teams were already busy analyzing data that was provided by the two spacecraft. Earlier in the mission, it was announced that the GRAIL mission would be extended by three additional mapping cycles. On June 4, the GRAIL twins had to endure a lunar eclipse during which their solar arrays received no sunlight to charge the vehicle’s batteries. Both spacecraft made it through the eclipse alive and in good condition. Originally, the GRAIL mission was planned to occur in between lunar eclipses because the spacecraft were not expected to survive two hours in darkness. After flying the two spacecraft for a while, teams saw that the twins were performing better than expected and could survive an eclipse.

After the primary science mission and the eclipse, the spacecraft spent some quiet time in lunar orbit as their orbital altitude decreased. With the two vehicles closer to the surface, the orbiters were able to examine local gravitational properties as opposed to the more global and regional view that the primary mission provided. The extended science phase started on August 30, 2012 as the two spacecraft orbited at an average altitude of 23 Kilometers which is within eight Kilometers of the Moon's higher surface features. The extended science mission continued until December 15 to maximize data return.

Last Friday, the two GRAIL twins performed a final orbital adjustment, breaking their science formation after months of flying around the Moon in tandem. The final days of the GRAIL mission were dedicated to engineering checkouts.


GRAIL - Lunar Gravity / Gravity Gradient Maps





On Monday, the GRAIL orbiters started their final orbits around the Moon, getting closer and closer to its surface, before taking one last dive to crash into the lunar surface.

On their final orbit, the twins passed from south to north until a 2,400-meter mountain near a crater named Goldschmidt got into their way and they made their crash landing, as planned by the GRAIL mission team that targeted both GRAIL spacecraft to impact this particular surface feature for a number of reasons.








The mission of the GRAIL twins was focused on science, and so was their demise. The impact of the two spacecraft will help scientists to examine the mechanical properties of the mountain and the lunar crust in general. For that, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter was in position to observe the impact with its instruments. Although the area was in the dark at the time of the crash, there was a small possibility of volatiles being ejected during impact which LRO could analyze. Also, LRO took high-resolution images of the impact site before the crash and the spacecraft will image the site again in the coming months to enable teams to perform visual analysis of the impact site.

In addition, choosing a crash site this far north avoided the possibility of the GRAIL twins impacting at or near one of the historical landing sites on the surface of the Moon where the Apollo, Surveyor, Luna and Lunokhod spacecraft landed.

On their last orbit around the Moon, the GRAIL twins performed a burn-to-depletion maneuver, burning their main engines until their fuel tanks were empty. GRAIL-A had ~20m/s worth of fuel left and GRAIL-B had nearly 26m/s. The depletion burn of Ebb was 4 minutes and 3 seconds in duration and the engine on Flow burned for 5 minutes and 7 seconds. Knowing exactly how much fuel was remaining will help engineers plan future mission and improve simulations for future flights. After their final burn, the GRAIL spacecraft were on their final trajectory, without fuel and on their planned collision course with the Moon’s surface.

The first of the GRAIL Twins to crash into the Moon was Ebb. The vehicle made its impact at a velocity of 1.7 Kilometers per second at 22:28:51 UTC. Flow followed 30 seconds later impacting about 3 Kilometers from Ebb. The impact site is located at 75.62 degrees north and 26.83 degrees west. After a mission of 464 days, 9 hours and 20 minutes, the two GRAIL Spacecraft were no more.

"We will miss our lunar twins, but the scientists tell me it will take years to analyze all the great data they got, and that is why we came to the moon in the first place," said GRAIL project manager David Lehman of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "So long, Ebb and Flow, and we thank you."



Although the GRAIL spacecraft have ceased to exist, their mission will provide a lot more knowledge about the Moon’s gravitational field, its interior composition and its history as more data is analyzed. Teams have just presented the initial findings of the primary science mission, but scientists are still busy piling through data provided during the extended mission.

The crash-site of the GRAIL twins will be named in honor of Sally Ride, NASA announced. Ride was America’s first women in space and collaborator for the GRAIL mission. She funded Sally Ride Science which administered the GRAIL MoonKAM mission.

"Sally was all about getting the job done, whether it be in exploring space, inspiring the next generation, or helping make the GRAIL mission the resounding success it is today," said GRAIL principal investigator Maria Zuber of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge. "As we complete our lunar mission, we are proud we can honor Sally Ride's contributions by naming this corner of the moon after her."






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PostSat Dec 21, 2013 2:05 am » by -Marduk-


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I guess if the moon controls the tides.. then it needs to be there right?

Then if we are also 70% water.. how does it effect us? Just ask any Police station how busy they get on full moons.. that's but one example.. Im sure there's more to it than that..

Let's assume it's artificial.. What are it's reasons for it being there? Is it to control the flow of our evolution? To keep us in some sort of quarantine? Make it a base for aliens, making it easier for them to visit us - what for I don't really know.. Or a physical aspect, like allow the earth to be liveable by control the flow of the oceans etc?

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