Islam vs. Christian

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:05 pm » by **Andrewd13**

I know im not the first to do this. Nor am I the last. I would like to get peoples opinion and thoughts on this subject though.

First off if you don't believe in God my only question is who created us? When you see a new car you might ask "oh whats the make and model?" cars didnt evolve from the ground. They were created. Just like humans.

Anyways we have a creator. If we have a creator who is SO powerful and mighty I know that I do not measure up to his abilities or knowledge. No human does. Nor do any GROUP of humans. Well all humans die and we go to meet our creator after that. By the standards stated in the quran we need to have faith and do good works. Surah 4:57: "But those who believe and do good deeds, We will admit them to gardens (Paradise) in which rivers flow, lasting in them forever...." .
Now how in the world could our good deeds ever amount to enough to grant us eternal life? Not one human deserves eternal life with the creator because we do not stack up against him AT ALL! Unless the creator himself is flawed. I know I do not want to serve a flawed creator that could potentially lead me into danger! Also how many good deeds do we need?!?

Ok so Christianity teaches that we do not need works because God understands our works are as of filthy rags compared to Him. Therefore he sent his son as the redeemer to be our sacrifice and all we have to do is believe in our hearts ask for forgiveness and ask Jesus to be our Lord. Also the bible says that if you really are a Christian then over time you will begin to want to change and start doing good deeds. BUT DEEDS ARE NOT NESSECARY FOR SALVATION.
It just seems to me that the Creator is Perfect and he needs a Perfect subsitute for our life of sin and shortcomings. If your islamic you have no replacement for your sins and no answer for them. If you think your good deeds can outway your sins then good luck.
What do you think ?

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:21 pm » by **Flecktarn**

only one way to sort it out ,,,,,FIGHT
last man standing wins ,,,,,
thing is dose it matter ,,,

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:34 pm » by **Boondox681**

i appreciate the post,but i'm done with all the religions.
all these problems will go away when religions do.
peace

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:45 pm » by **Lighthouse**

boondox681 wrote:i appreciate the post,but i'm done with all the religions.
all these problems will go away when religions do.
peace

All religions have done for humanity is separate people into different groups, they were never part of the solution.
And this is not a coincidence believe me.

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:46 pm » by **Pindz**

FUCK YOU AND ALL RELIGIOUS THREADS. STICK THE CROSS INTO YOUR ASS!

Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:51 pm » by **Troll2rocks**

pindz wrote:FUCK YOU AND ALL RELIGIOUS THREADS. STICK THE CROSS INTO YOUR ASS!

Can I also add, fuck you and all of your threads about stupid shapeshifting lizards, STICK THOZE REPTILEZ UP YOUR AZZ :flop:

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:06 pm » by **Crusader**

Religion is just a way of keeping the masses in check,People scoff at me and my belief in alien life, yet beleive God made man,man got bored God made woman for man(fom his rib!) god made detached garden where a talking SNAKE!!!! told man to eat the apple and sex was born and this is just the ridiculous beginning. What made us is time and biology FACT
I understand that some people have a need for religion and I respect that need,but religion of any denomination is no less fancifull than beleif in fairies or little green men.

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:08 pm » by **Freeyourmindnow**

lighthouse wrote:
boondox681 wrote:i appreciate the post,but i'm done with all the religions.
all these problems will go away when religions do.
peace

All religions have done for humanity is separate people into different groups, they were never part of the solution.
And this is not a coincidence believe me.

i agree totally :flop:

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:56 pm » by **Andrewd13**

crusader wrote:Religion is just a way of keeping the masses in check,People scoff at me and my belief in alien life, yet beleive God made man,man got bored God made woman for man(fom his rib!) god made detached garden where a talking SNAKE!!!! told man to eat the apple and sex was born and this is just the ridiculous beginning. What made us is time and biology FACT
I understand that some people have a need for religion and I respect that need,but religion of any denomination is no less fancifull than beleif in fairies or little green men.

Wow sex was not born from sin. Sex was designed for man and wife. God didn't make man because man was bored he let man realize he needed a woman. Your way off bro.

Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:57 pm » by **Andrewd13**

If none of you want to discuss spirituality why are you even in this section of the forum ??