Israel must strike Iran now !!!!!!!

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PostWed Mar 10, 2010 4:34 am » by Esoteric


i always say, we should disarm america, they have the biggest arsenal of nuclear weapons and are the only psychopaths to have actually dropped them on 2 mayor cities, never forget that!

and disarm israel, because there two hands in one pocket!
who is who, to say what is what?

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PostWed Mar 10, 2010 11:49 am » by Kilaspy


Iran again asks to buy, swap nuclear fuel for patients; US rejects peace and
life; hell-bent for war

Iran will run-out of medical isotopes within a month; leaving nearly 850,000 patients without a critical tool for their diagnosis and treatment. Iran’s government repeated their request to buy or swap fuel (previous acceptance here), even though they are legally authorized to produce their own. The US-proposed delay for Iran to receive the enriched fuel after a wait of up to one year would kill Iranians in need of medical isotopes. You would think that a Nobel Peace Prize winning President would jump at this opportunity to save people’s lives and ensure peace by accepting either option the Iranian government has peacefully offered.

But instead, Mr. Obama sent his minions to reject Iran. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:

"Time and patience is running out,” Iran will face “consequences,” and “they have no interest in building international confidence that their nuclear program is for peaceful means.”

Assistant Secretary of State Philip J. Crowley:

Well, there’s – it doesn’t contain anything new. We’ve heard this before. We think that the arrangement that we put on the table in Geneva is the right one. The Iranian response, in essence, is, in our view, a red herring.

Anyone familiar with the psychological idea of projection raises an eyebrow at Mr. Crowley’s off-the-cuff response. Projection is an unconscious denial of one's own motivations and acts that are then "projected" as being the motivations and acts of someone else. The term “red herring” means you’re intentionally deceiving someone with false information. The truth that Mr. Crowley unconsciously communicates is the US could end this confrontation easily by accepting either of the two easy solutions Iran is asking for critical medical supplies. It’s Mr. Crowley who is deceiving with a “red herring” that there’s some difficulty with solving this problem. Mr. Crowley is hiding the truth that it’s the US who is the aggressor.

A significant and related fact to the US refusal to declare peace is that the US owes Iran billions of dollars for unfulfilled contracts to deliver nuclear energy technology. The US cancelled those contracts that were paid by Iranian taxpayers as official US government punishment against Iranian taxpayers for their nation’s independence from the US-installed dictator from 1953 to 1979, Shah Pahlavi. The US overthrew Iran’s democracy in 1953 when Prime Minister Mossadegh requested Iran receive more than their 15% of profits from their own oil fields. Moreover, from 1980 to 1988, the US supported Iraq’s invasion of Iran, including blowing-up oil platforms, supplying loans, intelligence, military equipment, political cover in the UN Security Council, and the ingredients for Iraq to make chemical weapons to unlawfully use and kill Iranians.

The US violent overthrow of Iran’s government for 26 years and subsequent direct support of armed attack against Iran for 8 years in order to force Iran’s subjugation to US political hegemony killed hundreds of thousands of Iranians.

This history, of course, provides the best understanding that current US rhetoric and actions is the US gunning to overthrow Iran’s government one more time.

Corporate media, confirmed by the CIA Director as having been infiltrated to propagandize Americans for war policy, will never, ever, ever, ever, ever provide clear understanding of the important facts. For example, the New York Times will not cite Iran’s life-and-death need for medical isotopes, will not explain the simplicity of resolving this issue, gives none of the history of US destruction of Iran’s government, none of the following uncovering of US lies in their rhetoric. Their article deceives with a massive lie of omission right from the headline: Iran Letter Repeats Nuclear Swap Terms Rejected by West

The rhetoric for war with Iran is such paper-thin lying propaganda that I doubt Orwell could imagine any government’s use to swindle their nation and world. The lies are so easily destroyed as sinful and evil treason, the audacity to tell them rates with Hitler’s “Big Lie.” As I recently wrote concerning US rhetoric to unlawfully attack Iran:

We know that the US “leadership” and corporate media are lying for war with Iran with their two principle reasons:

1. Anyone who spends five minutes can verify that Iran’s President Ahmadinejad never threatened to attack or destroy Israel. The content and context of his October 2005 speech are in support of Palestinian equal treatment under the law from Israel, and compares the Israeli government to former repressive regimes in Iran, the USSR, and Iraq that were all replaced. I challenge anyone to summarize the paragraph in question and rationally conclude any physical threat to Israel. The implications of this fact are world-changing: the proof of Orwellian lies for war with Iran by criminal conspiracy between both political parties’ management and corporate media is beyond any doubt.
2. Iran has never diverted nuclear material from legal and peaceful use; verified by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in all their reports and testified by their agency directors. The agency seems under political pressure from the US; as votes and official language ignore the facts and purpose of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to voice concern over what isn’t known. This is as if your supervisor threatened to fire you, saying, “We can verify that you haven’t stolen anything from our observation and accounting of all materials. However, you can’t prove that you haven’t stolen things outside our accounting and observation that we don’t know about. Prove your intentions are to not steal. If you can’t, our suspicions are verified.” This reason concerns “Additional Protocol” that Iran gave administrative agreement to without verification from their legislators, and then withdrew from when the US wouldn’t keep their part of NPT to support Iran’s nuclear energy development.

We also know that all the reasons given to go to war with Iraq were not only false, but known as false at the time they were told.

This is huge. It's legal treason against the United States.

The audacity of these lies seems to support the chilling theory that the US is positioning to begin World War III.

LA County Nonpartisan Examiner Carl Herman

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PostWed Mar 10, 2010 11:59 am » by Nihilgeist


tevezmcfc34 wrote:As far as I'm aware Iran is a fully signed up member of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and doesn't posses any nuclear weapons while the opposite is true of Israel.......remind me again why its Iran and not Israel that we are being encouraged to attack?


Simple, Israel hasn't used their nuclear weapons, yet they easily could at any time if they wanted to (excluding the obvious backlash from the world). Can we say the same for Iran? Perhaps not directly, but by proxy through Hezbollah or Hamas with suitcase or dity bomb perhaps? I guess only time will tell.

The one thing I never see addressed is that could an Islamic nation actually justify using nuclear weapons to wipe out a Jewish State, only to also wipe out some of their own most holy sites as well? I fail to see them doing this because they'd just end up wiping out their Palestinian brothers & sisters in the concentration camp as well. But then again they had no problems with going to war with Iraq, Shia against Sunni.
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PostWed Mar 10, 2010 12:08 pm » by Nihilgeist


kilaspy wrote:Iran again asks to buy, swap nuclear fuel for patients; US rejects peace and
life; hell-bent for war

Iran will run-out of medical isotopes within a month; leaving nearly 850,000 patients without a critical tool for their diagnosis and treatment. Iran’s government repeated their request to buy or swap fuel (previous acceptance here), even though they are legally authorized to produce their own. The US-proposed delay for Iran to receive the enriched fuel after a wait of up to one year would kill Iranians in need of medical isotopes. You would think that a Nobel Peace Prize winning President would jump at this opportunity to save people’s lives and ensure peace by accepting either option the Iranian government has peacefully offered.

But instead, Mr. Obama sent his minions to reject Iran. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:

"Time and patience is running out,” Iran will face “consequences,” and “they have no interest in building international confidence that their nuclear program is for peaceful means.”

Assistant Secretary of State Philip J. Crowley:

Well, there’s – it doesn’t contain anything new. We’ve heard this before. We think that the arrangement that we put on the table in Geneva is the right one. The Iranian response, in essence, is, in our view, a red herring.

Anyone familiar with the psychological idea of projection raises an eyebrow at Mr. Crowley’s off-the-cuff response. Projection is an unconscious denial of one's own motivations and acts that are then "projected" as being the motivations and acts of someone else. The term “red herring” means you’re intentionally deceiving someone with false information. The truth that Mr. Crowley unconsciously communicates is the US could end this confrontation easily by accepting either of the two easy solutions Iran is asking for critical medical supplies. It’s Mr. Crowley who is deceiving with a “red herring” that there’s some difficulty with solving this problem. Mr. Crowley is hiding the truth that it’s the US who is the aggressor.

A significant and related fact to the US refusal to declare peace is that the US owes Iran billions of dollars for unfulfilled contracts to deliver nuclear energy technology. The US cancelled those contracts that were paid by Iranian taxpayers as official US government punishment against Iranian taxpayers for their nation’s independence from the US-installed dictator from 1953 to 1979, Shah Pahlavi. The US overthrew Iran’s democracy in 1953 when Prime Minister Mossadegh requested Iran receive more than their 15% of profits from their own oil fields. Moreover, from 1980 to 1988, the US supported Iraq’s invasion of Iran, including blowing-up oil platforms, supplying loans, intelligence, military equipment, political cover in the UN Security Council, and the ingredients for Iraq to make chemical weapons to unlawfully use and kill Iranians.

The US violent overthrow of Iran’s government for 26 years and subsequent direct support of armed attack against Iran for 8 years in order to force Iran’s subjugation to US political hegemony killed hundreds of thousands of Iranians.

This history, of course, provides the best understanding that current US rhetoric and actions is the US gunning to overthrow Iran’s government one more time.

Corporate media, confirmed by the CIA Director as having been infiltrated to propagandize Americans for war policy, will never, ever, ever, ever, ever provide clear understanding of the important facts. For example, the New York Times will not cite Iran’s life-and-death need for medical isotopes, will not explain the simplicity of resolving this issue, gives none of the history of US destruction of Iran’s government, none of the following uncovering of US lies in their rhetoric. Their article deceives with a massive lie of omission right from the headline: Iran Letter Repeats Nuclear Swap Terms Rejected by West

The rhetoric for war with Iran is such paper-thin lying propaganda that I doubt Orwell could imagine any government’s use to swindle their nation and world. The lies are so easily destroyed as sinful and evil treason, the audacity to tell them rates with Hitler’s “Big Lie.” As I recently wrote concerning US rhetoric to unlawfully attack Iran:

We know that the US “leadership” and corporate media are lying for war with Iran with their two principle reasons:

1. Anyone who spends five minutes can verify that Iran’s President Ahmadinejad never threatened to attack or destroy Israel. The content and context of his October 2005 speech are in support of Palestinian equal treatment under the law from Israel, and compares the Israeli government to former repressive regimes in Iran, the USSR, and Iraq that were all replaced. I challenge anyone to summarize the paragraph in question and rationally conclude any physical threat to Israel. The implications of this fact are world-changing: the proof of Orwellian lies for war with Iran by criminal conspiracy between both political parties’ management and corporate media is beyond any doubt.
2. Iran has never diverted nuclear material from legal and peaceful use; verified by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in all their reports and testified by their agency directors. The agency seems under political pressure from the US; as votes and official language ignore the facts and purpose of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to voice concern over what isn’t known. This is as if your supervisor threatened to fire you, saying, “We can verify that you haven’t stolen anything from our observation and accounting of all materials. However, you can’t prove that you haven’t stolen things outside our accounting and observation that we don’t know about. Prove your intentions are to not steal. If you can’t, our suspicions are verified.” This reason concerns “Additional Protocol” that Iran gave administrative agreement to without verification from their legislators, and then withdrew from when the US wouldn’t keep their part of NPT to support Iran’s nuclear energy development.

We also know that all the reasons given to go to war with Iraq were not only false, but known as false at the time they were told.

This is huge. It's legal treason against the United States.

The audacity of these lies seems to support the chilling theory that the US is positioning to begin World War III.

LA County Nonpartisan Examiner Carl Herman



http://www.examiner.com/x-27431-World-News-Examiner~y2010m2d7-Iran-increases-uranium-enrichment-for-nuclear-material-production

Iran increases uranium enrichment for nuclear material production

Tehran, Iran – On Sunday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced on Iranian state run television that he has asked Iran’s atomic energy organization to increase the level of enrichment of the nuclear material in production.

This reversal comes five days after Iran announced that it would agree to last autumn’s nuclear deal proposed by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United Nation’s global watchdog on such matters.

As reported by Reuters and BBC News, Ahmadinejad stated to the television audience, “We had told them [the West] to come and have a swap, although we could produce the 20 percent enriched fuel ourselves.” He continued, “We gave them two-to-three months' time for such a deal. They started a new game and now I [ask] [atomic energy chief] Dr Salehi to start work on the production of 20 percent fuel using centrifuges.”

Iran maintains that its nuclear program is for peaceful civilian energy production. The minimum enrichment level for uranium for use in civilian power plants is 3%, while the minimum enrichment level for uranium for use in nuclear weapons is 90%.

Western nations are concerned that Iran has ambitions to build a nuclear weapons program. Iran has been recently developing and testing advancements to its missile program.

The United States response involves initiating more government targets sanctions. White House Press Secretary Robert Gates said, “Pressures that are focused on the government of Iran, as opposed to the people of Iran, potentially have greater opportunity to achieve the objective.”

Britain’s Foreign Office said in a statement that the announcement by Iran was “clearly a matter of serious concern,” and that “This would be a deliberate breach of five UNSCRs [United Nations Security Council Resolutions].”

Iran’s nuclear program has received renewed international attention since the nation disclosed to the IAEA in September that it has been building a secondary uranium enrichment facility near the city of Qom. The IAEA has also stated that Iran may have other secret nuclear facilities, and Iran has stated that it plans to build 10 additional uranium enrichment plants. In addition, the IAEA discovered evidence that Iran was developing an implosion device of a type which has no civilian applications.

Iran has also been in the spotlight recently for internal civil unrest by its citizens who believe that the Iranian presidential election in June was a fraud and therefore illegitimate.

For more on Iran, please click here.
For more on the IAEA, please click here.

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Implosion devices are used for one thing and one thing only, to compress fissionable material uniformly to setoff a nuclear chain reaction. Furthermore, if you're on the path of ever increasing enrichment, you're obviously on the path of enriching to the point of creating a bomb.
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PostThu Mar 11, 2010 11:53 am » by Kilaspy


Iran's nuclear program is to build a power station, an activity Iran is allowed to do under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, signed not only by Iran but by the United States.
Furthermore, under the terms of that treaty, specifically Article IV, the United States it not only obligated to allow Iran to build nuclear power stations BUT TO ASSIST THEM IN DOING SO, a sure fire means to make sure that there are no clandestine weapons labs.


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