Israel Presses US for Another $700 Million in Military Aid

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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 3:38 pm » by Mozi!!a


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Funding Needed for Missile Defense Israeli Military Felt Wasn't Worth Paying For


The Israeli government has reportedly submitted a formal request for the US to agree to an additional $700 million in military funding, above and beyond the massive amount already allocated, to pay for the Iron Dome and Magic Wand missile defense systems.

This request is above and beyond the money the Pentagon was already seeking for Israel’s Iron Dome system, as the short range missiles, which were largely unsuccessful during the recent Gaza Strip attacks. The Israeli government wants to expand the number of batteries available.

The Iron Dome system was initially defunded by the Israeli military in 2010, when they decided it was not cost effective. The US immediately approved full funding for it. Now, the US is liable to be on the hook for the Magic Wand system as well.

Though official statements from the US have not been made on the new request, reports say that the US is likely to make the $700 million a de facto bribe, aimed at convincing Israel to delay its attack on Iran just a little longer

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/04/04/isra ... itary-aid/

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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 4:39 pm » by Ironlikealion


Israel "presses", lol , yeah right ...

Pentagon Plans Major Funding Boost for Israel’s Iron Dome

http://www.defensenews.com/article/2012 ... -Iron-Dome

Pentagon to ask Congress for more money for Iron Dome
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pentagon-w ... iron-dome/

The U.S. Defense Department intends to ask Congress for hundreds of millions of dollars in grant funding to purchase additional Iron Dome rocket and short-range missile intercepting batteries.

Details of the planned funding package have not yet been determined, but U.S. and Israeli sources estimated that the request to Congress could exceed $500 million to cover production of up to 10 additional batteries.

Preliminary discussions were held in Washington last week between a senior Ministry of Defence representative and officials from the Office of the Secretary of Defense. An itemized Israeli request is expected to be presented to the Pentagon in the coming days, sources from both countries said.

“The Department of Defense has been in conversations with the Government of Israel about U.S. support for the acquisition of additional Iron Dome systems and intends to request an appropriate level of funding from Congress to support such acquisitions based on Israeli requirements and production capacity,” Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in a March 27 email.

During the rocket attacks earlier this month, the Iron Dome system intercepted more than 80 percent of targeted rockets fired at southern Israel.

“The United States has previously provided $205 million in support of Israel’s Iron Dome short range rocket and mortar defense system,” Little said.

Israel has deployed three Iron Dome batteries and a fourth is in final stages of acceptance testing with the Israel Air Force’s Air Defense Command. The first two batteries were funded by Israel’s shekel-based defense budget while the $205 million appropriated by Congress last year were used to fund the third and fourth batteries as well as two additional batteries now being produced by an Israeli industrial team led by state-owned Rafael.

Israel’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, in a study last year, concluded that Israel required at least 13 Iron Dome batteries to protect populated areas from the growing rocket and short-range missile threat.

An Israeli industry source said Rafael has secured a letter of intent from Israel’s MoD for additional production pending clarification of funding pledges from Washington. He noted that Israel is capable of producing up to four batteries per year, which include a battle management system, launcher, interceptor missiles and a multimission radar by Elta Systems, a subsidiary of Israel Aerospace Industries.

Supporting Israel is a top priority of U.S. President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Little said.

In a March 27 statement, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak praised the Pentagon’s announced commitment for additional funding support for Iron Dome.

“The American decision is an additional manifestation of the deep defense ties between the United States and Israel. I praise the American government for its strengthened support for Israel’s defense.”

Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., ranking Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, also hailed the Pentagon’s announced decision to request additional Iron Dome funding. Berman, a co-author of the Iron Dome Support Act submitted to Congress March 21, described the Israeli intercepting system as “a game-changer.”

In a March 27 statement, Berman noted the threats Israel faces from “incoming, indiscriminate terrorist rocket attacks” that are countered “by this cutting-edge system.” According to Berman, “Iron Dome is fundamentally shifting political, diplomatic and military realities on the ground, while saving lives of innocent Israelis.”

“When Palestinian terrorists launched their latest round of missile attacks on innocent Israelis, the Iron Dome anti-missile system saved innocent lives and prevented an escalation of hostilities and a full-blown crisis,” Berman said on March 22."

He added that the Pentagon’s statement of additional funding support “is a further step in the right direction.

The proposed Iron Dome Support Act authorizes Obama “to provide assistance, upon request by the Government of Israel, for the procurement, maintenance and sustainment of the Iron Dome anti-missile defense system for purposes of intercepting short-range missiles launched against Israel.”

“I am pleased that the President now acknowledges the need to increase funding to counter a deadly threat, and I look forward to working together to identify the additional resources necessary to help defend our Israeli friends,” Rep. Buck McKeon, R-Calif., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said in a statement.
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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 4:43 pm » by Tuor10


I'm sure the American taxpayer is happy forking out.

I for the life me can't understand how Israeli can still feel threatened when it has one of the most advanced armed forces on the planet. They could swat the Persians without even breaking sweat.
The only other country in the region that has a comparable military capability are the Saudi's; and they are best friends with America. Probably more so than the Israeli's.

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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 4:54 pm » by Ironlikealion


tuor10 wrote:
I for the life me can't understand how Israeli can still feel threatened


Well ,I bet a few million Israelis who are living under daily threat of rocket and mortars
attacks from Gaza wont agree with you .
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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 5:00 pm » by Tuor10


ironlikealion wrote:
tuor10 wrote:
I for the life me can't understand how Israeli can still feel threatened


Well ,I bet a few million Israelis who are living under daily threat of rocket and mortars
attacks from Gaza wont agree with you .


Then maybe a new stratagem should be implemented to counter it?
Clearly, the millions spent on defending you from such attacks isn't working.

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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 5:09 pm » by Perronick


Did Israel asked for the money for that purpose or not?

Israel asks US for $700 million in military aid

Jerusalem requests Washington to allocate funds for more Iron Dome, Magic Wand anti-missile batteries. Deal will provide Israel with near-complete missile defense until 2015


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 56,00.html

If they asked for the money, we can assume they have a lobby in DC pushing for it, can't we?

What really amazes me, is that that defence system will only be 100% effective untill 2015 LOL. Then I guess they'll have to think of a new and equally expensive one.

This is classic Arm Race, volume 1.

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 33,00.html

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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 5:11 pm » by Ironlikealion


Actually the whole Iron Dome affair is the new strategy ....

many people in the south of Israel are furious about the government since
the iron dome system went active , they complain that instead of dealing
with the problem directly (best defense is offense doctrine) ,with the iron dome
it's more passive approach , intercepting the rockets ,eliminating the squad
that lunched it ,and pretty much that it ,instead of dealing with the infrastructure
of the organizations themselves .

what kind of stratagem would you suggest ?
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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 5:16 pm » by Noentry


This money is to prepare for a military campaign.
America will go into Iran, Israel are asking for upgrades to their defenses for the up coming war.
A deal perhaps to hold Israel back from any more covert operations.
When the Republicans win the next presidency. Soon after the war will begin.
Including the new, sanctions on Iran, the foundations for this war are being laid.
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The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority.
The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking."
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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 5:19 pm » by Perronick


@ironlikeadome

I agree, you're not dealing with the root of the problem. Stop robbing the land in the West Bank for starters and stop boycotting the creation of a Palestinian state, for example. That'd be a nice start.

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PostSat Apr 07, 2012 5:24 pm » by Tuor10


ironlikealion wrote:
what kind of stratagem would you suggest ?


There are only three practical solutions:

1) Create a large buffer zone that reduces the threat from hand held rockets and Mortar weapons. Obviously, this would include the removal of all residential areas on both side of the fence. It wouldn't be a popular move for obvious reasons, but it would mitigate the damage and loss of life.

2) Speak to the Palestinians. No more intermediaries; no more envoys with vague plenipotentiary powers; a face to face sit down. If both parties desired an end to the bloodshed, it could happen.

3) that leaves option three: total commitment - a 'total' military resolution.

I am viewing this from an objective standpoint. I don't really care that much what happens personally. The evil seed of organised religion has done its work it would seem. I just hope future generations are smarter and more open to compromise.


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