Israel: The Devil's Best Friend?

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PostWed Sep 29, 2010 4:18 pm » by Djpakkal


Sorry folks but there is simple no devil nor there is a invisible man living in the sky. But that doesn't mean that there aren't bad folks walking on this beautiful world. Only good to make from bread shit.

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PostWed Sep 29, 2010 4:20 pm » by Phaeton


zinzana wrote:
I wonder, does medication play a role in this

and lets assume that indeed she's a crack somoking whore
does that in any way shape or form make your stupid invalid arguments about zionesem to be anywhere near relevant ?
are you some kind of ostrich sir? every time i see you pull your head out of the sand you shout zionezem and stick it back in the sand :lol:
whats going on man


Hi there sidekick.. Wanna keep it ontopic mr. zion?
With 'medication' I did not mean crack, obviously.
Rest: lol.

Youve been studying under 'master' proto alot lately haven't you? :mrgreen:
It shows. You got an A in BS my friend. Your parents will be proud.

Whos getting some delicious humus tonight..
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PostWed Sep 29, 2010 4:33 pm » by Proto


another brilliant display of maturity from phaeton ...

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PostWed Sep 29, 2010 4:37 pm » by zinzana


i think he finaly realised that proto is a master ...thats some progress his making right there

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PostWed Sep 29, 2010 6:57 pm » by Phaeton


get a room
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PostWed Sep 29, 2010 7:09 pm » by zinzana


you mean this room?


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SURA LXXVI:19

"They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who will seem like scattered pearls to the beholders."

LOL:D

S.52 Verse 20

They will recline (with ease)
Upon couches
Arranged in ranks;
and We shall wed them
To maidens with beautiful big and lustrous eyes

Verse 24

Round them about them will serve,
(Devoted to them,
Youths (handsome) as Pearls
Well -guarded

S.76 Verse 18-19

And round about them
Will (serve) youths
Of perpetual (freshness)
If thous seest them,
Thou wouldst think them
Scattered Pearls

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PostSun Oct 03, 2010 5:48 am » by Harbin


Or....YHWH (Yahweh) (as) Satan, (an Adversary)
There is One True Mighty One, (G-d) and only One. "Hear O Israel, YHWH (Yahweh) our Elohim (G-d), YHWH (Yahweh) is one! (Deu. 6:4). We are told "Do not go after other mighty ones, the mighty ones of the peoples who are all around you, for YHWH (Yahweh) your Elohim is a jealous El in your midst, lest the displeasure of YHWH (Yahweh) your Elohim burn against you, then He shall destroy you from the face of the earth." (Deu. 6:14,15); "understand that I (YHWH (Yahweh)) am He. Before Me there was no El formed, nor after Me there is none. I, I am YHWH (Yahweh), and besides me there is no Savior" (Isa. 43:10-11). Therefore, it is quite clear from Scripture, that "there is no other Elohim (G-d) but one" (Yahweh).

Since there is only One Yahweh Elohim (G-d), and only one, is He also the Creator?

Let's find out exactly who the Creator is. The very first verse of the Hebrew Scriptures tells us; "In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth." Since "Elohim" is a title, (Mighty one, Strength) this does not clearly identify the Creator, so we need more information. Gen. 2: 4 reads, "These are the births of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that YHWH (Yahweh) Elohim made the earth and heavens." It is quite clear here in this passage, that the Elohim of Gen. 1:1 is indeed YHWH (Yahweh), and that He is the Creator.

YHWH (Yahweh) the Creator alone IS SELF-Existent, (the UN-originated original). He is First of all things (Isa. 41:4), and He alone is Creator (Ps 146:5-6). This being a basic truth direct from Scripture, we must conclude that ALL that has existence must have come into being by YHWH (Yahweh).

The Nachash (wrongly translated ‘Serpent’), means, "shinning enchanter" must also be a product of YHWH (Yahweh)’s Creation. "Now the Nachash was shrewd above every living thing of the field (earth life) that YHWH (Yahweh) Elohim made" (Gen. 3:1). Note: This is the same created individual that talked the woman Eve into disobeying YHWH (Yahweh) in the Garden of Eden. The offspring (descendants) of the Nachash, and the offspring, of the woman Eve (and Adam) will have hatred between them (Gen. 3:15). In other-words, the ‘adversary pressure’ placed upon the descendants of Adam and Eve (Adamites) by the descendants of the Nachash is continuous, and the result is hatred. The Nachash are adversaries (and are satan's) toward Adamites.

This matter of YHWH (Yahweh) creating the Nachash is very important, and requires some very serious thought, because in it lies the whole cause of Adams sin entrance into the arranged plan of YHWH (Yahweh)’s Creation (world). You see, YHWH (Yahweh) is an Elohim of purpose. He says, "My counsel does stand, and all My delight I do" (Isa.46: 10). "And I have created the waster to destroy" (Isa.54: 16). The Nachash are simply in the plan of YHWH (Yahweh) and were created to perform a specific purpose in accordance with the Creator’s will.

Did YHWH (Yahweh) create the Nachash and his descendants just as an experiment? Did He know being the all-wise Creator what the result would be. Yes, He knew what the outcome would be, He knew the result, and it was just as He had planned it. YHWH (Yahweh) did not create a world, then turn it loose to see what would happen. He watches each one of His creatures very closely. There is nothing that occurs without His foreknowledge. YHWH (Yahweh) knows what will occur from the beginning of time, just as though it had already occurred. His knowledge is unlimited, knowing the end from the beginning (Isa.46: 10).

YHWH (Yahweh) in His wisdom saw the need for an adversary(s), an opponent(s), (or a satan) someone to work counter to His plans and purpose, and to undertake an attempt to overthrow His ultimate plan of the salvation and praise of all of His creation. So, we see that that an adversary, and even EVIL itself, is in YHWH (Yahweh)’s plan. Without opposition, YHWH (Yahweh) could never show His superiority, His love. This fact is simple when we think of it. YHWH (Yahweh) needs sin and wickedness in order to have an opportunity to show to the creation (world), His mighty power over adversaries, the Adversary and his satellites. If the Pharaoh of Egypt had not been motivated by an EVIL spirit he would not have held the children of Israel in bondage. All occurred so that YHWH (Yahweh) might show to the Creation His power over the adversary(s). Pharaoh’s heart was made stubborn by YHWH (Yahweh) (Gen. 10:1-2).

There are many events recorded in Scripture, where YHWH (Yahweh) used an adversary (a satan) to carry out His purpose. It is evident that even Judas of himself would not have been strong enough to have betrayed the Messiah Yahushua (J_sus), but he was fortified by the Adversary (Luke 22:3). Only then was he able to betray Yahushua. In this way YHWH (Yahweh)’s plan was again completed.

We can never appreciate the good, if it were not contrasted with bad. Had we not known darkness, we would not appreciate the light. We must first be hungry to enjoy a good meal. YHWH (Yahweh) could never have worked out His great purpose without contrast in His creation, such as EVIL and wickedness. A physician would not receive any praise in his profession if he found no one sick. Neither would YHWH (Yahweh) be praised for the deliverance ‘from sin’ if no one had been lost ‘in sin’. Nothing can be accomplished without contrast. But the comforting thought is that YHWH (Yahweh), by whom all things exist, is not only able but will transmute all EVIL, wickedness, and sin into good. No wonder the Scriptures tell us, "For the wrath of mankind praises You YHWH (Yahweh)" (Psa.76: 10).

’Modern Christendom’ would have us believe the error, that the being called Satan was first created an angel (messenger) then fell and lost his first estate. However, John says that he sinned from the beginning (1 Jn. 3:8). If this adversary called Satan was created a messenger, and then fell without YHWH (Yahweh)’s knowledge, attention or control, in an independent act of his own will, would the inhabitants of heaven (or of the earth), ever be safe at any time, not knowing when one of the other messengers might of his own authority decide to become EVIL, and destroy the whole of YHWH (Yahweh)’s plan and purpose? Of course not. We are told in the Scriptures to let YHWH (Yahweh) be true and every man a liar.

We must believe that YHWH (Yahweh) is operating the whole universe, all of His creation, and is in full control, directing each occurrence. Why should we try to shield YHWH (Yahweh)’s association with EVIL, when He says, "YHWH (Yahweh) has made all for His purpose and also the wrong for the day of EVIL" (Pro.16: 4). " forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating EVIL, I, YHWH (Yahweh), do all these" (Isa.45: 7).

YHWH (Yahweh) Creates EVIL (the bad)

The following verses show that YHWH (Yahweh) creates EVIL, that he threatens people with EVIL, and that he sends EVIL spirits, among other things. As you read through these verses (and please don't skim quickly over them), note that these verses make it very clear that YHWH (Yahweh) is responsible for EVIL, and not simply a passive bystander "allowing" EVIL to happen.

In the verses that follow, we have replaced the true name, YHWH (Yahweh), for "the LORD" and "Elohim"

We quote the first set of verses in several versions, because the newer translations try to soften the conflict by translating the Hebrew "RA" (EVIL) as "disaster" or "woe" or "calamity." But it doesn't really matter what English word is used. The hideous effects are the same, and YHWH (Yahweh) claims responsibility for them all.

First, the correct definition of the word EVIL.

In the Hebrew, the word EVIL is "RA", and simply means "bad," in the Greek the word is "KAK-ON" the meaning is the same (the opposite of good) i.e. bad. But, the definition is to be distinguished from sin, in that it is not a mistake when YHWH (Yahweh) creates EVIL. Thus, the word has no moral tinge.

Isaiah 45:7

NIV: I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and CREATE DISASTER; I, YHWH (Yahweh), do all these things.

NASB: The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well being and CREATING CALAMITY; I am YHWH (Yahweh) who does all these.

RSV: I form light and create darkness, I make weal and CREATE WOE, I am YHWH (Yahweh), who do[es] all these things.

KJV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I YHWH (Yahweh) do all these things.

DBY: forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and CREATING EVIL: I, YHWH (Yahweh), do all these things.

YLT: Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and PREPARING EVIL, I [am] YHWH (Yahweh), doing all these things.'

Lamentations 3:38

NIV: Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both CALAMITIES and good things come?

NASB: Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both good and ILL go forth?

RSV: Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that good and EVIL come?

KJV: Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not EVIL and good?

DBY: Out of the mouth of the Most High doeth not there proceed EVIL and good?

YLT: From the mouth of the Most High Go not forth the EVILS and the good.

Jeremiah 26:3

NIV: Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his EVIL way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the DISASTER I was planning because of the EVIL they have done.

NASB: "Perhaps they will listen and everyone will turn from his EVIL way, that I may repent of the CALAMITY which I am planning to do to them because of the EVIL of their deeds.'

RSV: It may be they will listen, and every one turn from his EVIL way, that I may repent of the EVIL which I intend to do to them because of their EVIL doings.

KJV: If so be they will hearken, and turn every man from his EVIL way, that I may repent me of the EVIL, which I purpose to do unto them because of the EVIL of their doings.

DBY: Peradventure they will hearken, and turn every man from his EVIL way, that I may repent me of the EVIL which I purpose to do unto them because of the wickedness of their doings.

YLT: If so be they hearken, and turn back each from his EVIL way, then I have repented concerning the EVIL that I am thinking of doing to them, because of the EVIL of their doings.

Additional Citations

We have shown you enough examples of how the modern versions try to soften the original Hebrew word for "EVIL" by translating it in various ways. We will quote the remaining verses from the RSV, unless otherwise noted, and you can look up what your modern version says if you like:

Jeremiah 36:3 It may be that the house of Judah will hear all the EVIL which I intend to do to them, so that every one may turn from his EVIL way, and that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin.

Jeremiah 32:42 For thus says YHWH (Yahweh): Just as I have brought all this great EVIL upon this people, so I will bring upon them all the good that I promise them.

Amos 3:6 Does EVIL befall a city, unless YHWH (Yahweh) has done it?

Jeremiah 11:11 Therefore, thus says YHWH (Yahweh), Behold, I am bringing EVIL upon them which they cannot escape; though they cry to me, I will not listen to them.

Jeremiah 14:16 And the people to whom they are prophesying, Are cast into out-places of Jerusalem, Because of the famine, and of the sword, And they have none burying them, Them, their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, And I have poured out upon them this EVIL. (YLT)

Jeremiah 18:11 Now, therefore, say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: 'Thus says YHWH (Yahweh), Behold, I am shaping EVIL against you and devising a plan against you. Return, every one from his EVIL way, and amend your ways and your doings.

Jeremiah 19:3 You shall say, 'Hear the word of YHWH (Yahweh), O kings of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem. Thus says YHWH (Yahweh) of hosts, the Elohim of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such EVIL upon this place that the ears of every one who hears of it will tingle.

Jeremiah 19:15 Thus says YHWH (Yahweh) Behold, I am bringing upon this city and upon all its towns all the EVIL that I have pronounced against it, because they have stiffened their neck, refusing to hear my words.

Jeremiah 23:12 Therefore their way shall be to them like slippery paths in the darkness, into which they shall be driven and fall; for I will bring EVIL upon them in the year of their punishment, says YHWH (Yahweh).

Jeremiah 26:13 Now therefore amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of YHWH (Yahweh) and YHWH (Yahweh) will repent of the EVIL which he has pronounced against you.

Jeremiah 35:17 Therefore, thus says YHWH (Yahweh), of Jacob: Behold, I am bringing on Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the EVIL that I have pronounced against them; because I have spoken to them and they have not listened, I have called to them and they have not answered.

Jeremiah 36:31 And I will punish him and his offspring and his servants for their iniquity; I will bring upon them, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and upon the men of Judah, all the EVIL that I have pronounced against them, but they would not hear.

Jeremiah 40:2 The captain of the guard took Jeremiah and said to him, "YHWH (Yahweh) pronounced this EVIL against this place;

Jeremiah 42:10 If you will remain in this land, then I will build you up and not pull you down; I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I repent of the EVIL which I did to you.

Jeremiah 42:17 All the men who set their faces to go to Egypt to live there shall die by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence; they shall have no remnant or survivor from the EVIL which I will bring upon them.

Jeremiah 44:2 Thus says YHWH (Yahweh) of Jacob: You have seen all the EVIL that I brought upon Jerusalem and upon all the cities of Judah. Behold, this day they are a desolation, and no one dwells in them,

Jeremiah 45:5 And do you seek great things for yourself? Seek them not; for, behold, I am bringing EVIL upon all flesh, says YHWH (Yahweh); but I will give you your life as a prize of war in all places to which you may go.

Jeremiah 49:37 I will terrify Elam before their enemies, and before those who seek their life; I will bring EVIL upon them, my fierce anger, says YHWH (Yahweh). I will send the sword after them, until I have consumed them;

Jeremiah 51:64 and say, 'Thus shall Babylon sink, to rise no more, because of the EVIL that I am bringing upon her.'" Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.

Ezekiel 6:10 And they shall know that I am YHWH (Yahweh); I have not said in vain that I would do this EVIL to them.

Micah 2:3 Therefore thus says YHWH (Yahweh): Behold, against this family I am devising EVIL, from which you cannot remove your necks; and you shall not walk haughtily, for it will be an EVIL time.

1 Kings 21:29 Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the EVIL in his days; but in his son's days I will bring the EVIL upon his house.

2 Chronicles 34:24 Thus says YHWH (Yahweh), Behold, I will bring EVIL upon this place and upon its inhabitants, all the curses that are written in the book which was read before the king of Judah.

2 Chronicles 34:28 Behold, I will gather you to your fathers, and you shall be gathered to your grave in peace, and your eyes shall not see all the EVIL which I will bring upon this place and its inhabitants.'" And they brought back word to the king.

1 Samuel 16:23 And whenever the EVIL spirit from YHWH (Yahweh) was upon Saul, David took the lyre and played it with his hand; so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the EVIL spirit departed from him.

1 Samuel 18:10 And on the morrow an EVIL spirit from YHWH (Yahweh) rushed upon Saul, and he raved within his house, while David was playing the lyre, as he did day by day. Saul had his spear in his hand;

1 Samuel 19:9 Then an EVIL spirit from YHWH (Yahweh) came upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing the lyre.

1 Samuel 16:15 And Saul's servants said to him, "Behold now, an EVIL spirit from YHWH (Yahweh) is tormenting you.

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of YHWH (Yahweh) departed from Saul, and an EVIL spirit from YHWH (Yahweh) tormented him.

Micah 1:12 For the inhabitants of Maroth wait anxiously for good, because EVIL has come down from YHWH (Yahweh) to the gate of Jerusalem.

2 Samuel 12:11-12 Thus says YHWH (Yahweh), 'Behold, I will raise up EVIL against you out of your own house; and I will take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun. For you did it secretly; but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.'

Judges 9:23 And YHWH (Yahweh) sent an EVIL spirit between Abim'elech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abim'elech;

1 Kings 14:10 therefore behold, I will bring EVIL upon the house of Jerobo'am, and will cut off from Jerobo'am every male, both bond and free in Jacob, and will utterly consume the house of Jerobo'am, as a man burns up dung until it is all gone.

2 Kings 21:12 therefore thus says YHWH (Yahweh), of Jacob, Behold, I am bringing upon Jerusalem and Judah such EVIL that the ears of every one who hears of it will tingle.

Isaiah 31:2 And He also [is] wise, and bringeth in EVIL, And His words He hath not turned aside, And He hath risen against a house of EVIL doers, And against the help of workers of iniquity. (YLT)

Prov.16: 4 "YHWH (Yahweh) has made all for His purpose, and also the wrong for the day of EVIL"

What About the Creation of Angels? Are Positive/Negative Aspects Also Associated with Them?

YHWH (Yahweh) both used and sustains (both the positive and the negative ones) good and evil, this also applies to angels, as well as to man and every other created thing in the universe. We will first concentrate on the negative side of the characteristics and purposes of angels 'messengers' (since in man's experience this is the most neglected because we almost always want to associate 'celestial' angels with "righteousness" and "goodness" and not the evil side of the angelic realm). But, in the Holy Scriptures, all of the verses of the Scripture that describe the actions of angels (no matter what type of angelic creatures are being discussed: cherubs, archangels and other distinctions), the negative attributes of angels are emphasized far more in the Scripture than their righteous characteristics. After all, we are told in no uncertain terms that the accuser is shown to have been created by YHWH (Yahweh) to be "a murderer from the beginning" — that is, from the very commencement of his creation he was already reckoned by YHWH (Yahweh) to be a murderer (John 8:44). Furthermore, he is called "a liar and the father of it [lying]" (also John 8:44). The last part of the verse means that Yahshua considered satan (adversary in the Hebrew) as the first one ever to tell a lie — that is, he was a lying murderer from the beginning of his existence. What we must realize is the fact that satan can do no more than YHWH (Yahweh) has determined for that angelic power to perform. Satan is completely dominated by (and even governed by) the will and commands of YHWH (Yahweh) the Father. Even though satan is a murderer and liar, satan can do no more that YHWH (Yahweh) allows him, or that YHWH (Yahweh) tells him to do (as in Job 1:6-12 and 2:1-6). And even if, on some occasions YHWH (Yahweh) does let the adversary touch our lives with evil, the outcome will always be to our benefit. The inspired Scriptures teach: "All things work together for good to them that love YHWH (Yahweh), to them that are the called according to His purpose" (Romans 8:28). We will always be the winners in the end, no matter what!

It is pure nonsense and decidedly anti-biblical to state (or even to believe) that the adversary (satan) was at first a righteous angel that somehow fell from grace after his creation. This false doctrine is normally taught by some theologians and preachers because they erroneously declare that satan is the anointed cherub who covered the Mercy Seat in the heavenly House of God as described in Ezekiel 28:11-19. That "King of Tyre" was another personality altogether. The truth is, the adversary was created and ordained to do his role as a murderer and to be the father of liars from his first spark of his life. That is the clear teaching of the Scripture. When he performs in this capacity, he is in fact doing YHWH (Yahweh)'s will.

The Supreme Authority of YHWH (Yahweh) the Creator

Deuteronomy 10:14 "See, the heavens, and the heaven of heavens belong to YHWH (Yahweh) your Elohim, also the earth with all that is in it." TS

Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, I am he, And there is no Elohim besides Me. I put to death and I make alive. I have wounded, and I heal. And from My hand no one delivers." TS

1 Samuel 2:6-8 "YHWH (Yahweh) puts to death and makes alive, He brings down to the gave, and raises up. YHWH (Yahweh) makes poor and makes rich, He brings low and lifts up, He raises the poor from the dust, He lifts the needy from the dunghill, to sit with princes, and make them inherit a throne of esteem." TS

2 Chronicles 20:6 "0 YHWH (Yahweh) Elohim of our fathers, are You not our Elohim in the heavens, and do You not rule over all the reigns of the nations, and in Your hand is there not power and might, so that no one is able to stand against You?" TS

Jeremiah 27:5,6 "I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are on the face of the earth, by My great power and by My outstretched arm. And I shall give it unto whom it seemed right in My eyes. And now, I have given all these lands into the hand of Nebukadnetstsar the sovereign of Babel, My servant. And the beasts of the field I have also given him to serve him." TS

Daniel 4:17 "...the most High is ruler in the reign of men, and gives it to whomever He wishes, and sets over it the lowest of men." TS

1 Chronicles 29:11 "Yours, O YHWH (Yahweh), is the greatness, the power and the comeliness, the pre-eminence and the excellency, because of all that is in the heavens and in the earth. Yours is the reign, O YHWH (Yahweh), and You are exalted as head above all." TS

Conclusion

The Scriptural citations given here are not a complete collection of all the passages available in the Scriptures, but are sufficient to show the intent of this article, that (a) YHWH (Yahweh) is the Creator of all that exists, and in complete control of all His Creation and, (b) As the Creator, YHWH (Yahweh) is the author of both good and EVIL.

So you can see that the Scriptures credits YHWH (Yahweh) with responsibility for EVIL. Next time you hear of or personally see or experience a calamity or disaster, or woe, or any other kind of EVIL, the biblical thing for you to do would be to credit YHWH (Yahweh) with it. Disease, starvation, natural catastrophes of all kinds are claimed by YHWH (Yahweh). According to the Scriptures he often sends these pestilences out of revenge, or for correction, but sometimes he sends them for no apparent reason to us at all except his caprice.

The old Christian ruse that YHWH (Yahweh) simply "allows" EVIL to happen cannot stand up to these Scriptural citations. For the Christian to deny this, he also has to deny the subject-verb grammar of YHWH (Yahweh)'s "Word," which is said to have been inspired down to the detail of the individual words chosen by the holy spirit.

So, either the Scripture(s) are not inerrant, or YHWH (Yahweh) is indeed responsible for EVIL, creating it and putting it to use regularly in accordance with his will, for His purpose!

The false doctrine that there was a war in heaven between the Creator and his created creatures is false doctrine. The Creator is always in full control of his creation, and all is in complete accord with His purpose.

Yes, the adversary(s), and the (opponent(s), satan(s) are created cunning and crafty, and would deceive the very elect if possible. Yet they will never succeed in undoing anything that YHWH (Yahweh) has purposed to do. "With Him (YHWH (Yahweh)) are strength and ability. The misled and the misleader are His. He leads counselors away stripped, and makes judges go mad" (Job 12:16,17). The Adversary is chained (restricted) on earth, and limited, and because of the Messiah, can no longer appear before YHWH (Yahweh). This ‘prosecutor, our accuser’ is now limited on the earth, and to the earth, and can only go the ‘length of his chain’. In the case of Job’s afflictions, (prior to Messiahs coming) YHWH (Yahweh) told him just how far he could go, and he could not go any farther. In each instance where YHWH (Yahweh) told him what to do, he obeyed. The Adversary and his satellites are all subjects of YHWH (Yahweh) they can promote EVIL, but for YHWH (Yahweh)'s purpose only, and all are absolutely, at all times, under the control of their Creator.

But, let us keep in mind, that the Adversary(s) career is temporary. It will all end in YHWH (Yahweh)’s appointed time, but all in complete accordance with His plan.
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PostSun Oct 03, 2010 6:20 am » by Parasitepigs


You Jews are lossing the propaganda war thanks to the INTERNET!! The next bastian of free speech you will attack..!! With WORDS like gassing and hanging people for telling the truth!! The TRUTH a CONSPRICY THEORY TO MOST RACIST HATE FILLED JEWS..!!! Just read their sick little comments, and watch them point guns a 2 year olds, and pregnant women!! You are LOSSING the war for the minds of the people!! SO PLEASE JUST SHUT YOUR FUCKING SICK MOUTH!! :bang; :badair: :shooting: Or not!!?? Because every time you open your mouth you show us just what kind of sick fucks you, and your NOT so chossen people are!! Mosses never exsited, and your messiah is not EVER comming to save you..!!! NO THIS TIME YOU WILL PAY FOR YOU SICK CRIMES!!! WE ARE THE MANY YOU ARE THE FEW!!! BETTER START RUNNING!! :shooting: :nails:
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PostSun Oct 03, 2010 6:25 am » by Parasitepigs


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SURA LXXVI:19

"They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who will seem like scattered pearls to the beholders."

LOL:D

S.52 Verse 20

They will recline (with ease)
Upon couches
Arranged in ranks;
and We shall wed them
To maidens with beautiful big and lustrous eyes

Verse 24

Round them about them will serve,
(Devoted to them,
Youths (handsome) as Pearls
Well -guarded

S.76 Verse 18-19

And round about them
Will (serve) youths
Of perpetual (freshness)
If thous seest them,
Thou wouldst think them
Scattered Pearls

At least they don't suck little boys penises and the blood that comes out of their tiny little genitels HA, HA, HAAAA!!!!! Like you sick FUCKING JEWS DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :owned: :clapper: :headscratch:
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PostSun Oct 03, 2010 6:45 am » by Captainkarizma


LOLOLOL JUST WHAT ONE CAN EXPECT WHEN A BUNCH OF (RELIGULOUS) SHEEP.
quoting scripture,trying to sound enlightened arguing about ancient history most of which is false ,and then finishing off with someone raping a little boy . bravo!! :flop: :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
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