Israeli USS Liberty Attack Cover-up

Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:05 pm » by **Phaeton**

Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty

A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.

“Why would our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own?” Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.

Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate. [Newsday]

"Then, inexplicably, at 2 p.m., unmarked Israeli aircraft began attacking the ship." [Ledger Enquirer]

Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt.

Moorer, who as top legal council to the official investigation is in a position to know, agrees that Israel intended to sink the USS Liberty and blame Egypt for it, thus dragging the United States into a war on Israel's behalf. This seems to be a common trick of Israel. Starting with the Lavon affair, through the USS Liberty, to the fake radio transmitter that tricked Reagan into attacking Libya, to potentially 9-11 itself, Israel's game is to frame Arabs and set them up as targets for the United States.

The official US investigation is discredited. And with it, every claim of innocence for Israel that relied on the official investigation as a source.

The real question facing the American people is why the US Government seems more concerned with protecting Israel after they are caught playing these dirty tricks, rather than doing something to convince Israel not to kill any more Americans.
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:40 pm » by **CaptainRutland**

I found this interesting post within the archives of DTV and I feel sure that phaeton will not object to me tagging it upon his post here.

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/bbc-dead-in-the-water-the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-t44256.html

This an interesting news item from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6690425.stm?lsm

"Regarding a massacre of Egyptian POWs, there's no evidence of that. And why would the Israelis try to cover up one atrocity by committing another?

He says the attack has remained a source of controversy because "it has all the ingredients of a good spy scandal. It involves espionage and it involves the Israelis, who are forever a focus of conspiracy theories.

"If I could prove the Liberty was attacked in a premeditated fashion, I would write it - it would be a great historical scoop - but the truth is far more mundane."

I make no other comment than a recommendation to research for yourselves. Regarding the tie-in to 9/11
I wonder if any papers, presently 'classified' will be released in 50 years? Maybe they will, because in 50 years no one will really care, it will be the subject (maybe) of disscussion upon whatever passes for the 'internet' then, just a matter of history and only for debate.

After all, who remembers 'The Maine'?

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:40 pm » by **Flecktarn**

the Israelis knew what they were doing that day ,,and america was coward nation not to respond ,,to this blatant attack ,,
but what else would you expect from a nation built on terror ,,

cue Israeli trolls to denounce me

Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:18 am » by **Harbin**

What I think is a reputable source on this matter:

caution it may be thought provoking.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/07/alan-hart-israels-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-the-full-story/

Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:12 pm » by **Phaeton**

CaptainRutland wrote:I found this interesting post within the archives of DTV and I feel sure that phaeton will not object to me tagging it upon his post here.

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/bbc-dead-in-the-water-the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-t44256.html

This an interesting news item from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6690425.stm?lsm

"Regarding a massacre of Egyptian POWs, there's no evidence of that. And why would the Israelis try to cover up one atrocity by committing another?

He says the attack has remained a source of controversy because "it has all the ingredients of a good spy scandal. It involves espionage and it involves the Israelis, who are forever a focus of conspiracy theories.

"If I could prove the Liberty was attacked in a premeditated fashion, I would write it - it would be a great historical scoop - but the truth is far more mundane."

I make no other comment than a recommendation to research for yourselves. Regarding the tie-in to 9/11
I wonder if any papers, presently 'classified' will be released in 50 years? Maybe they will, because in 50 years no one will really care, it will be the subject (maybe) of disscussion upon whatever passes for the 'internet' then, just a matter of history and only for debate.

After all, who remembers 'The Maine'?

Not'all mr. Rutland, it only adds to the OP.

Going by your quoted piece of txt; do you propose this incident was a mistake on Israeli side?

Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:03 pm » by **CaptainRutland**

Phaeton wrote:
CaptainRutland wrote:I found this interesting post within the archives of DTV and I feel sure that phaeton will not object to me tagging it upon his post here.

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/bbc-dead-in-the-water-the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-t44256.html

This an interesting news item from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6690425.stm?lsm

"Regarding a massacre of Egyptian POWs, there's no evidence of that. And why would the Israelis try to cover up one atrocity by committing another?

He says the attack has remained a source of controversy because "it has all the ingredients of a good spy scandal. It involves espionage and it involves the Israelis, who are forever a focus of conspiracy theories.

"If I could prove the Liberty was attacked in a premeditated fashion, I would write it - it would be a great historical scoop - but the truth is far more mundane."

I make no other comment than a recommendation to research for yourselves. Regarding the tie-in to 9/11
I wonder if any papers, presently 'classified' will be released in 50 years? Maybe they will, because in 50 years no one will really care, it will be the subject (maybe) of disscussion upon whatever passes for the 'internet' then, just a matter of history and only for debate.

After all, who remembers 'The Maine'?

Not'all mr. Rutland, it only adds to the OP.

Going by your quoted piece of txt; do you propose this incident was a mistake on Israeli side?

I do indeed mr. Phaeton, I believe that the Israeli high command made an error (if indeed they had a choice/decision in the matter) though I suspect it was a local decision/judgement which was in error.

Even in those days, the Israeli influence in Washington was strong, and how the story played out was vital to both parties.

Regarding the 'Maine', the actual incident is still obscure in it's final judgement (for historians) but the effect of the conculsion drawn at the time, by the people of the USA, was decisive.

Like the 'USS Liberty'.

Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:20 pm » by **Evildweeb**

If you peruse the video section, there are quite a few videos regarding this.

(one of which is mine ..... sorry for the shameless plug

)

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo ... ALSE_FLAG/

But, no matter how anyone spins it - one thing is for certain:

It was not an accident, as accidents are abrupt and over quite quickly. This was a well documented long term prolonged attack lasting over an hour.

Calling it a conspiracy theory does not necessarily make it so.

Good topic and cheers :flop:

Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:40 pm » by **Phaeton**

CaptainRutland wrote:
Phaeton wrote:
Not'all mr. Rutland, it only adds to the OP.

Going by your quoted piece of txt; do you propose this incident was a mistake on Israeli side?

I do indeed mr. Phaeton, I believe that the Israeli high command made an error (if indeed they had a choice/decision in the matter) though I suspect it was a local decision/judgement which was in error.

Even in those days, the Israeli influence in Washington was strong, and how the story played out was vital to both parties.

Regarding the 'Maine', the actual incident is still obscure in it's final judgement (for historians) but the effect of the conculsion drawn at the time, by the people of the USA, was decisive.

Like the 'USS Liberty'.

Interesting.

So you dont think the timeframe would make a mistake inplausible. I gather you'd also opt to disregard the reports from either those on the ship [unmarked airplanes], and those affiliated with independent investigations [ie. Capt. Ward Boston & retired Admiral Thomas Moorer].

And, given your interpretation, you'd also conclude the rather striking differences between the two vessels [El Quseir Vs. USS Liberty] isnt a reason to rethink your theory.. You do realize Liberty was flying the star spangled banner.. And was circled by Israeli helicopters

El Quseir

USS Liberty

According to a 1981 NSA report on the incident, the El Quseir "was approximately one-quarter of the Liberty's tonnage, about one-half its length, and offered a radically different silhouette."

Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery. [Washington Report]

Remarkable how one could ignore all these variables and stand strong in upholding the 'mistake' theory.
Or are these aspects mere 'conspiracy nut' nonsense in your eyes?

Just trying to place your reaction here, no offence intended.