It's an act of war': U.S. vows action over bizarre Iranian

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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 12:35 pm » by Swissbrit


Here we go again!!!!!! It seems that the powers that be have started another little incedent to get into another war in the middle east.......... Now the question is are the people going to let them get away with it????????
It's an act of war': U.S. vows action over bizarre Iranian plot to hire Mexican drugs cartel to kill Saudi ambassador in D.C. restaurant blast
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... n-D-C.html

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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 12:51 pm » by Frutty


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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 1:37 pm » by Frutty


Questions over Alleged Islamic Republic Assassination Plot in US
by MUHAMMAD SAHIMI in Los Angeles
12 Oct 2011 05:000 Comments

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2011/10/post-6.html

From motive to method, elements of purported plan don't readily add up.

... The question now is: Can the claim possibly be true?

Before addressing the question, let me first emphasize that there is almost nothing that the Tehran hardliners might do that could surprise me. This perspective is based on their long track record, both within and outside Iran. Therefore, if the claim turns out to be true -- if it is shown that Iranian agents did want to carry out the alleged plot -- I would not be deeply surprised ...


.... There are also other considerations. First, the indictment refers to Shakuri as an "Iranian official." I could not find any information on this "official," nor have I ever heard of him. ...

... Thus, at this point, I find the claim that the IRI was involved in the plot highly unlikely. The more information that becomes available, the more it appears like a frame-up of Manssor Arbabsiar, a classic case of entrapment. But, once again, there is nothing the IRI might do that would surprise me.
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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 1:40 pm » by Ballance


inside job??? NO WAY!!!!!
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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 1:41 pm » by Swissbrit


What about the U.S.?

Is it logical to assume that, even if other countries have carried out false flag operations (especially horrible regimes such as, say, the Nazis or Stalin), the U.S. has never done so? Well, as documented by the New York Times, Iranians working for the C.I.A. in the 1950's posed as Communists and staged bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected president (see also this essay).

And, as confirmed by a former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence, NATO carried out terror bombings in Italy with the help of the Pentagon and CIA and blamed communists in order to rally people's support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Moreover, declassified U.S. Government documents show that in the 1960s, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan code-named Operation Northwoods to blow up American airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. The operation was not carried out only because the Kennedy administration refused to implement these Pentagon plans.

For lots more on the astonishing Operation Northwoods, see the ABC news report; the official declassified documents; and watch this interview with James Bamford, the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings. One quote from the Northwoods documents states: "A 'Remember the Maine' incident could be arranged: We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

What about Al-Qaeda?

You might think Al-Qaeda is different. It is very powerful, organized, and out to get us, right? Consider this Los Angeles Times article, reviewing a BBC documentary entitled The Power of Nightmares, which shows that the threat from Al Qaeda has been vastly overblown (and see this article on who is behind the hype). And former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski testified to the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative."

And did you know that the FBI had penetrated the cell which carried out the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but had – at the last minute – cancelled the plan to have its FBI infiltrator substitute fake powder for real explosives, against the infiltrator's strong wishes? See also this TV news report.

Have you heard that the CIA is alleged to have met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11? Did you know that years after 9/11 the FBI first stated that it did not have sufficient evidence to prosecute Bin Laden for 9/11? (See also this partial confirmation by the Washington Post) And did you see the statement in Newsweek by the CIA commander in charge of the capture that the U.S. let Bin Laden escape from Afghanistan?

Have you heard that the anthrax attacks – which were sent along with notes purportedly written by Islamic terrorists – used a weaponized anthrax strain from the top U.S. bioweapons facility? Indeed, top bioweapons experts have stated that the anthrax attack may have been a CIA test "gone wrong." For more on this, see this article by a former NSA and naval intelligence officer and this statement by a distinguished law professor and bioterror expert (and this one).

It is also interesting that the only Congress members mailed anthrax letters were key Democrats, and that the attacks occurred one week before passage of the freedom-curtailing PATRIOT Act, which seems to have scared them and the rest of Congress into passing that act without even reading it. And though it may be a coincidence, White House staff began taking the anti-anthrax medicine before the Anthrax attacks occurred.

Even General William Odom, former director of the National Security Agency, said "By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism, yet in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation" (the audio is here).

Why Does This Matter?

Please read what the following highly respected people are saying:

Former prominent Republican U.S. Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr stated that the U.S. is close to becoming a totalitarian society and that elements in government are using fear to try to bring this about.

Republican U.S. Congressman Ron Paul stated that the government "is determined to have martial law." He also said a contrived "Gulf of Tonkin-type incident may occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran." Former National Security Adviser Brzezinski told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify yet another war.

The former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, Paul Craig Roberts, who is called the "Father of Reaganomics" and is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, BusinessWeek, and Scripps Howard News Service, has said:

"Ask yourself: Would a government that has lied us into two wars and is working to lie us into an attack on Iran shrink from staging 'terrorist' attacks in order to remove opposition to its agenda?

Retired 27-year CIA analyst Ray McGovern, who prepared and presented Presidential Daily Briefs and served as a high-level analyst for several presidents, stated that if there was another major attack in the U.S., it would lead to martial law. He went on to say:

"We have to be careful, if somebody does this kind of provocation – big violent explosions of some kind – we have to not take the word of the masters there in Washington that this was some terrorist event because it could well be a provocation allowing them, or seemingly to allow them to get what they want."

The former CIA analyst would not put it past the government to "play fast and loose" with terror alerts and warnings and even terrorist events in order to rally people behind the flag.

General Tommy Franks stated that if another terrorist attack occurs in the United States "the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government." Former UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter stated before the Iraq war started that there were no weapons of mass destruction. He is now saying that he would not rule out staged government terror by the U.S. government. And British Parliament Member George Galloway stated that "there is a very real danger" that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran and to gain complete control domestically.

The abundance of reliable information in this essay suggests that not only has the U.S. in the past conducted false flag operations, but there is a possibility that 9/11 involved some element of this deceit, and a future false flag operation cannot be ruled out. Let us spread this news to all who care so that we might build the critical mass necessary to stop these secret operations and work together for a more caring civil society.

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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 2:50 pm » by Kerrblur2


You people who thonk iran didnt try to assasinate this man arestupid. There is no special. Thing to this. They have informants , recordings, and soon a confession. That fricken government is such a waste of time. There worthless. I hope they die and the people get the right to speak freely for once without getting stoned or 90 lashes
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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 3:10 pm » by Ballance


kerrblur2 wrote:You people who thonk iran didnt try to assasinate this man arestupid. There is no special. Thing to this. They have informants , recordings, and soon a confession. That fricken government is such a waste of time. There worthless. I hope they die and the people get the right to speak freely for once without getting stoned or 90 lashes

well, some people can tell you the same about 911, you no. they have the informant, the recording(yea binladen in the cave drink turkish coffe and smoke nargilla hashish and by the way say I FUCKTED USA ALLAHUAKBAR) confession??? well this is really hard to get in this days....
i say fuck the news. what ever they say-better be shure in one thing. THEY LAYING ALLOT!
its not like i love ahmedinejad or obama. from my point of view they are one the same side. just ELITE PUPPETS. and me and you man- WE ARE THE OTHER SIDE. you get me?
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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 3:18 pm » by Kinninigan


As a tax paying American and US Army veteran I can say for the masses we "couldn't give two fucks if a Saudi ambassedor dies" and its no reason to go to war.

Alot of these Saudi royals are sick sadistic fucks. Some even have American girls sign contracts to become sex slaves for princes (they dont like fuckin their own women), they treat women like shit, and still "stone them to death" in some cases.

They are involved in oil manipulation on the markets, break human rights laws, torture their own people, and think "Mecca" is gods choosen place when most Saudi royals are more evil then satan herself.

Point is, one droop of American blood drops for a Saudi royal and starts a war with Iran then we need to call the bluff here.......and this happens during "occupy wallstreet"..come on you dumb CIA fucks you can do a little better for false flag terror
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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 3:39 pm » by Muchtyman


There are always two sides ........................

Iran rejects U.S. plot claim as "childish"

(CBS/AP)

As the Obama administration planned to leverage charges that Iran plotted to assassinate Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States into a new global campaign to isolate the Islamic Republic, Tehran blasted the allegations as fraudulent.

Iran's parliament speaker, Ali Larijani, called the Justice Department's claims a "childish game."

Holder: Iran aimed to bomb Saudi ambassador
Read the U.S. criminal complaint (PDF)
Al Quds: Iran's shadowy terrorist trainers

"These are cheap claims. By giving it a wide media coverage, it was evident that they are trying to cover up their own problems," Larijani told an open session of the parliament Wednesday, apparently suggesting the American claim was an attempt to divert attention from mounting protests in U.S. cities.

"They (Americans) suffered a political stroke and learned that they had begun a childish game," he said. "We have normal relations with the Saudis. There is no reason for Iran to carry out such childish acts."


Seriously ; Who would believe Holder .............................. :twisted:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/ ... 9077.shtml


Watch the propaganda machine kicking into high-gear , always good for a laugh .

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PostWed Oct 12, 2011 3:51 pm » by Newearthman


Omg this is so obvious and childish on an evil level.
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