Jackie Killed John Kennedy

[Mrmcnuggets Profile]

So its official to say that your brain has popped due to being un able to comprehend?
About time, glad I'm the one to break the 7forever machine.

[7forever Profile]

What an opposition would have to do is impossible. They would have to prove that Greer's fake hand popping off the wheel in zframe 304 is real. In other words they would fail because Greer's left hand/arm were crossing his right shoulder in both nix and muchmore during the critical frames right before jfk received the headshot. The first thing that happens is, Greer is passing a large covered object from his right to left hand 4 seconds before he fired back. This visual fact has been ignored and in some cases researchers have outright lied about his hands even leaving the wheel.


The covered gun is seen perfectly in 258 with his right suited arm distinguishable.


Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder because during the alteration they panned upward to hide when Greer moved his left hand with the gun to near his shoulder, so when he turned the second time to shoot, he just pushed up, over and fired.

Greer's left arm crosses his shoulder in perfect unison with the headshot in nix, proving Zapruder was altered to hide Greer as the real assassin. The same movement happens in muchmore but there's an obstructed view running forward. You can see the white/bleached gun going to the floor after Greer shoots and turns forward.



The fake hand is very obvious without even looking at nix because of Bob Harris's brightening of this footage. No evidence exists that his left hand ever returned to the wheel and all researchers did was ignore that he passed the gun, therefore ignoring he shot jfk and supported a very obviously altered Zfilm because they felt it was politically incorrect to prove this shocking and pathetic fact against american government.

NO HAND OR ARM...there is nothing but some grey thing that tried and failed to mimic a hand but there's one huge problem there. THEY DIDN'T ATTACH A FAKE ARM TO THE FAKE HAND.LOL



If William Greer did not kill Kennedy none of these alterations would have taken place. If Greer didn't shoot jfk his left arm would not be crossing in two other films. If Greer wasn't the assassin he would NOT have passed anything to his left hand. If Greer was innocent it wouldn't look exactly like he shoots jfk with silly FAKE reflections creating that visual at the exact moment jfk's shot in the head. In other words, it is impossible for Greer to be anything but guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy.

My obsession paid off in the biggest way possible for any truth seekers in this world. Never in this country has there ever been a more epic blunder than those goons in the 60's thinking they could get away with something as silly as using the secret service to kill an American President in an open limousine. Make no mistake that this is not as much me who solved this silly cover-up but the information age.

[Mrmcnuggets Profile]

Apparently I didn't I guess.

If Greer fired the kill shot, due to the fact he needs to turn around with out turning too much as to turn the steering wheel, he would of shot Kennedy in the left, or center portion of his face. Regardless of what arm he used to fire the weapon from. If he used his right arm, he would of definitely shot him in the left or center side. Unless he cocked his elbow backwards and stuck it to the side of his face... which he clearly didn't.

Like I said, right eye, from the front, as well as the front passenger who got shot and windshield shot, the shots came from the grassy hill and he escaped through the 2nd drain in the area, linking to a river run off drain. It is the only way any shooter could of gotten out of the area unseen. Our mysterious umbrella man could fit the description, though the speculation with him is he shot as the limo was passing, and the shots clearly came from a more forward direction.

Arguments over Seven. It is impossible for a man on the left of the man being shot, to shoot him from in front of him, to the point it pierces above the right eye. Period. Well, unless he's stretch from the fantastic 4, or like I said above, stuck the gun to his head or close enough.

And JFK is clearly in the back right seat, making your 30 what ever pages of useless rant utterly and finally to a dead halt.

Having some issues with Bullet trajectories 7 are we? Just like your gun muzzle velocity speeds that close would take his head off.

Any other games for us to play?

Hey mr unlucky 7s,

watch this and just think how these pumpkins would be from 5 feet away, and then remember that a pumpkin is unfortunately hollow inside so imagine if it was smaller and the size of a persons face. Yeah it wouldn't be there would it?

Didn't think so buddy.

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Does that look like the effects of a .38 revolver at close range, or any range???

Do you have any idea what you are talking about???

JFK was not shot in the head with a .38 revolver, numnutz!!!!

You have provided no...

-alternative wound path besides Greer's simple shot that entered the right forehead and exited the right rear because there isn't one.
-defined location of exit with witnesses supported by photo and/or video.
-evidence that a handgun could not cause a large exit hole fired at close range because there isn't any.
-evidence of anything but nothing.

Well actually, (me being someone who actively shoots guns knows the difference.) Look up bullet; weight, velocity speeds, and where it has maximum/least inertia on flight and you will see. That if you shot someone in the face that close his skull would of completely been fucked beyond recondition. If you shoot someone in the head from a mile, it actually has enough inertia to send limbs flying like a person got blown up, with enough force of a .44 mag point blank. So if a rifle at a mile, which the bullet is almost coming straight down on top of the head at that point, can have enough force as a magnum point blank (when if the rifle was shot horizontally(with out major tilt) the impact velocity would be nothing the same.

Cartridge Bullet weight Muzzle velocity Muzzle energy Max pressure
.38 Comparisons
.38 Short Colt 135 gr (8.7 g) 777 ft/s (237 m/s) 181 ft·lbf (245 J) 7,500 CUP
.38 Long Colt 150 gr (9.7 g) 777 ft/s (237 m/s) 201 ft·lbf (273 J) 12,000 CUP
.38 S&W 158 gr (10.2 g) 767 ft/s (234 m/s) 206 ft·lbf (279 J) 14,500 PSI
.38 S&W Special 158 gr (10.2 g) 940 ft/s (290 m/s) 310 ft·lbf (420 J) 17,000 PSI
.38 Special +P 158 gr (10.2 g) 1,000 ft/s (300 m/s) 351 ft·lbf (476 J) 20,000 PSI
.38 Special +P+ 110 gr (7.1 g) 1,100 ft/s (340 m/s) 295 ft·lbf (400 J) >20,000 PSI
.380 ACP 100 gr (6.5 g) 895 ft/s (273 m/s) 178 ft·lbf (241 J) 21,500 PSI
9x19mm Parabellum 115 gr (7.5 g) 1,300 ft/s (400 m/s) 420 ft·lbf (570 J) 39,200 PSI
9x19mm Parabellum 124 gr (8.0 g) 1,180 ft/s (360 m/s) 383 ft·lbf (520 J) 39,200 PSI
9x18mm Makarov 95 gr (6.2 g) 1,050 ft/s (320 m/s) 231 ft·lbf (313 J) 23,206 PSI
.38 Super 130 grains (8.4 g) 1,275 ft/s (389 m/s) 468 ft·lbf (634 J) 36,500 PSI
.357 Magnum 158 grains (10.2 g) 1,349 ft/s (411 m/s) 639 ft·lbf (866 J) 35,000 PSI
.357 SIG 125 grains (8.1 g) 1,350 ft/s (410 m/s) 506 ft·lbf (686 J) 40,000 PSI

A .38 special +p has a muzzle energy of 351 lb, his head would be gone. Ripped clean off his neck at that point.[/quote]


The numbers are screaming you are retarded for stating he was shot from inside the car.

[7forever Profile]

Increase your screen size to 200% and watch the area over Greer's right shoulder. It pops in unison with the headshot. It's most noticeable at normal speed.



This old copy shows the same recoil/jolt backward but with video fakery. The second gif shows Roy's head functioning as the gun with emitting muzzle blast smoke before it extends in sync with the front right entrance and fake mist. The gun was really at the level of his right shoulder hidden by Kellerman's head. Also, notice the all-important splice in Zapruder after the shot.

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Originally Posted by yyy123
Except... I was not addressing the hand. I was addressing your ignorance regarding reflections. You were very clear in indicating that the reflection from the front passenger's head was faked because it did not show up in a photograph taken from a different angle. As any 5 year old knows... change the angle and a reflection is no longer visible.
You're not much of a sleuth if you are tripped up by what is obvious.

Also, in all this time you have yet to prove the Greer shot is even possible. Your case is based upon the hypothesis that an over the shoulder shot, in the space of 1 second or less, while driving a vehicle is even possible.

The film being altered to make it look like his left arm didn't cross is the evidence that Greer shot jfk. The alteration would NOT have been committed for any other reason. Connnally's reflection is depicted the same in the polaroid and Zapruder but Roy's head is without the fake blob in the polaroid, nix, and muchmore. The muchmore cap is the moment of entrance to jfk's right forehead.

In addition, it recoils and does all kinds of impossible things only a cartoon could produce. It's fake and you have nothing but making blanket statements of fact, which are impossible. Unless the sun disappears when filmed from the other side of a reflection, but depicts the same reflection on Connally but not Kellerman. The Moorman pic was taken at Zapruder frame 309 and shows no fake reflection on Roy's head, but frame 312-313 of Z shows the fake reflection causing the headshot. Connally's reflection is the same in the pic and Zapruder. Defeated liars like yourself must ignore Connally's consistent reflection and impose fictional fantasies. The nix film depicts no fake reflection, and Roy's head snaps back swiftly (just like you'd expect of someone trying to hide that the driver was shooting the President), the complete opposite of the perfectly altered movement seen in Zapruder.

[Mrmcnuggets Profile]

What an opposition would have to do is impossible. They would have to prove that Greer's fake hand popping off the wheel in zframe 304 is real. In other words they would fail because Greer's left hand/arm were crossing his right shoulder in both nix and muchmore during the critical frames right before jfk received the headshot. The first thing that happens is, Greer is passing a large covered object from his right to left hand 4 seconds before he fired back. This visual fact has been ignored and in some cases researchers have outright lied about his hands even leaving the wheel.


The covered gun is seen perfectly in 258 with his right suited arm distinguishable.


Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder because during the alteration they panned upward to hide when Greer moved his left hand with the gun to near his shoulder, so when he turned the second time to shoot, he just pushed up, over and fired.

Greer's left arm crosses his shoulder in perfect unison with the headshot in nix, proving Zapruder was altered to hide Greer as the real assassin. The same movement happens in muchmore but there's an obstructed view running forward. You can see the white/bleached gun going to the floor after Greer shoots and turns forward.



The fake hand is very obvious without even looking at nix because of Bob Harris's brightening of this footage. No evidence exists that his left hand ever returned to the wheel and all researchers did was ignore that he passed the gun, therefore ignoring he shot jfk and supported a very obviously altered Zfilm because they felt it was politically incorrect to prove this shocking and pathetic fact against american government.

NO HAND OR ARM...there is nothing but some grey thing that tried and failed to mimic a hand but there's one huge problem there. THEY DIDN'T ATTACH A FAKE ARM TO THE FAKE HAND.LOL



If William Greer did not kill Kennedy none of these alterations would have taken place. If Greer didn't shoot jfk his left arm would not be crossing in two other films. If Greer wasn't the assassin he would NOT have passed anything to his left hand. If Greer was innocent it wouldn't look exactly like he shoots jfk with silly FAKE reflections creating that visual at the exact moment jfk's shot in the head. In other words, it is impossible for Greer to be anything but guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy.

My obsession paid off in the biggest way possible for any truth seekers in this world. Never in this country has there ever been a more epic blunder than those goons in the 60's thinking they could get away with something as silly as using the secret service to kill an American President in an open limousine. Make no mistake that this is not as much me who solved this silly cover-up but the information age.

You know its FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to shoot a man, behind you to the right, with your left hand over your right shoulder, and then to shoot him above his right eye brow WHILE he's looking right.

You Fuckin' shill.

[7forever Profile]

Right lateral x-ray shows bullet fragments behind right eye

The Head Shot from the Front
Well guys, I knew this case was solved almost a year ago when the recoil showed itself but there is so much more like metallic fragments at exactly the site the autopsy refers to and Greer describing the wound path with the right eye as the start point going back to the rear. Notice the fragments just behind and slightly above the right eyesocket. READ THE STUFF below...it nails it.

The autopsy x-rays contain additional evidence of a frontal shot. Wound ballistics expert Dr. Larry Sturdivan told the HSCA that if an exploding or frangible bullet had struck the skull, it "definitely" would have left a cloud of metal fragments close to the point of entrance:
Mr. MATHEWS. Mr. Sturdivan, taking a look at JFK exhibit F-53, which is an X-ray of President Kennedy's skull, can you give us your opinion as to whether the President may have been hit with an exploding bullet?
Mr. STURDIVAN. . . . In those cases, you would definitely have seen a cloud of metallic fragments very near the entrance wound. (1 HSCA 401)
Dr. Sturdivan was seemingly unaware of the fact that on the unenhanced autopsy x-rays, a cloud of fragments is visible in the right frontal region, which would indicate that a frangible bullet struck in that area. Apparently Dr. Sturdivan only examined the enhanced x-rays and not the original x-rays. Historian Dr. Michael Kurtz comments on Dr. Sturdivan's testimony:
Sturvidan also stated that Kennedy was not struck in the front of the head by an exploding bullet fired from the grassy knoll. The reason, Sturdivan declared, was that the computer-enhanced x-rays of Kennedy's skull do not depict "a cloud of metallic fragments very near the entrance wound." In cases where exploding bullets impact, he asserted that "you would definitely have seen" such a cloud of fragments in the x-ray. Sturdivan's remarks betrayed both his own ignorance of the medical evidence and the committee's careful manipulation of that evidence. Sturdivan saw only the computer-enhanced x-ray of the skull, not the original, unretouched x-rays. Had he seen the originals, he would have observed a cloud of metallic fragments clustered in the right front portion of the head. Furthermore, the close-up photograph of the margins of the large wound in the head shows numerous small fragments. The Forensic Pathology Panel itself noted the presence of "missile dust" near the wound in the front of the head. One of the expert radiologists who examined the x-rays noticed "a linear alignment of tiny metallic fragments" located in the "posterior aspect of the right frontal bone." The chief autopsy pathologist, Dr. James J. Humes, remarked about the numerous metallic fragments like grains of sand scattered near the front head wound. The medical evidence, then, definitely proves the existence of a cloud of fragments in the right front portion of Kennedy's head, convincing evidence, according to Sturdivan, that an exploding bullet actually did strike the president there.

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See seven, thats a good post.
I hope you understand now, that if an incendiary round was used, and Greer shot him from the front/left of JFK, regardless of where the bullet entered considering they would of used a magnum to prevent shell ejection, his head would of been clear gone.

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The Moorman Polaroid taken Dallas Texas 22 November 1963, shows two snipers nests on the Grassy Knoll, with muzzle flashes behind the picket fence left screen.

With E Howard Hunt firing on President Kennedy, and Martin Luther and Coretta King to his right. The “Badgeman” enhancement, shows Dallas Police officer Joe Smith, firing from behind the rotunda wall, alongside Gordon H Arnold talking on a hand held radio.

With an unidentified bald guy, and deaf mute Ed Hoffman and his missus to his left! William F Buckley, has been identified as Umbrella Man, whose raised device signaled the shooters on the GK, that all systems were go!

Lee Harvey Oswald was blamed for killing the President, and Dallas Police Officer Tippets, a couple miles away around forty minutes later, despite photos that show him at the doorway of the TSBD, when the shots were fired in the first instance, and when the three tramps were marched by hours later!

Ted Gunderson FBI bureau chief in Dallas when President K was murdered, is in a video in possession of a rifle on the sixth floor of the TSBD, after the shooting, he was in Memphis Tennessee, when Martin Luther King was shot, in Los Angeles California, when Senator Robert Kennedy was slain.

He subsequently became one of the principles in the Franklin Case Cover up, which goes back nearly thirty years, that has Including testimony from Rusty Nelson, that Hunter S Thompson paid him $100,000.00 a time, to film snuff killings to the tune of around fifty dead!

The Three tramps were E Howard Hunt of Watergate fame, Charles Harrelson father of TV actor Woody Harrelson, and Charles Frederick Rogers, wanted in Houston TX, for killing and dismembering both his parents in 1965.

As the limousine emerged from behind the freeway sign, the driver William Greer turned and looked over his right shoulder, he turned back, and while holding the steering wheel with his left hand, retrieved something from under the dash with his right hand.

He then transferred the object in his right hand to his left hand, and turning back around to look at the President, he brought his left hand around his body, and aimed and fired at President Kennedy’s head.

Let's think about this, shall we. A man transfers a gun from his left hand to his right hand.
This man, is sitting INFRONT, and TO THE LEFT, of the person behind them.
They then, with the gun in their right hand, shoot the person behind them in the RIGHT side of their face, above the eyebrow. With out extending their arm to meet JFKs forehead.
Do you know Mr. Stretch from the fantastic 4? Was he by any chance related to greer?

Is this possible? NO. Think about it. Hold a gun in your right hand, have a friend stand 5 feet behind you, put the gun in your right hand, and try an stick that to the right side of their face, while they are FACING right. Will it be possible? NO. For real. Think about it, yet, actually do it.


You got one thing right though, the shots from the hill. And we can see this in some of the .gif images in 7forevers thread about JFKS assassination. What happens when we dig deeper on it? We find that there was actually a police report from someone in the area, that a person was leaving a storm run off drain that went from the sewers, to the river, with a hunting rifle on their back, brown leather jacket. Just like in the watchmen.
Why would they do it like that? So anyone who comes up with the 'idea' they can just shrug off, and say they saw it in a movie.

What is the problem with this though? The drain, that the person was supposedly reported leaving, connects directly to the storm drain that is right behind the fence on top of that hill. The only access point in that area that a person could fit through, since the storm drain on the street has no run off access for a person to go through, and the only way out is through the cover they entered in.

See what you've done 7? Brain washed people beyond what is physically possible. Like mr. fruttinutter.
It IS IMPOSSIBLE for greer to be the killer. Muzzle velocities alone, would of ripped the front of his face off that close, and second, it is impossible for a person standing infront, and to the left of the man they are shooting. To shoot that person with a gun in their right hand, above the right eye brow, in a fashon to the sense it exits out the back of the head, instead of behind the ear.

So shut up, you owe DTv an apology for 40 pages of spammed bullshit man.

[Mrmcnuggets Profile]

The Moorman Polaroid taken Dallas Texas 22 November 1963, shows two snipers nests on the Grassy Knoll, with muzzle flashes behind the picket fence left screen.

With E Howard Hunt firing on President Kennedy, and Martin Luther and Coretta King to his right. The “Badgeman” enhancement, shows Dallas Police officer Joe Smith, firing from behind the rotunda wall, alongside Gordon H Arnold talking on a hand held radio.

With an unidentified bald guy, and deaf mute Ed Hoffman and his missus to his left! William F Buckley, has been identified as Umbrella Man, whose raised device signaled the shooters on the GK, that all systems were go!

Lee Harvey Oswald was blamed for killing the President, and Dallas Police Officer Tippets, a couple miles away around forty minutes later, despite photos that show him at the doorway of the TSBD, when the shots were fired in the first instance, and when the three tramps were marched by hours later!

Ted Gunderson FBI bureau chief in Dallas when President K was murdered, is in a video in possession of a rifle on the sixth floor of the TSBD, after the shooting, he was in Memphis Tennessee, when Martin Luther King was shot, in Los Angeles California, when Senator Robert Kennedy was slain.

He subsequently became one of the principles in the Franklin Case Cover up, which goes back nearly thirty years, that has Including testimony from Rusty Nelson, that Hunter S Thompson paid him $100,000.00 a time, to film snuff killings to the tune of around fifty dead!

The Three tramps were E Howard Hunt of Watergate fame, Charles Harrelson father of TV actor Woody Harrelson, and Charles Frederick Rogers, wanted in Houston TX, for killing and dismembering both his parents in 1965.

As the limousine emerged from behind the freeway sign, the driver William Greer turned and looked over his right shoulder, he turned back, and while holding the steering wheel with his left hand, retrieved something from under the dash with his right hand.

He then transferred the object in his right hand to his left hand, and turning back around to look at the President, he brought his left hand around his body, and aimed and fired at President Kennedy’s head.

Let's think about this, shall we. A man transfers a gun from his left hand to his right hand.
This man, is sitting INFRONT, and TO THE LEFT, of the person behind them.
They then, with the gun in their right hand, shoot the person behind them in the RIGHT side of their face, above the eyebrow. With out extending their arm to meet JFKs forehead.
Do you know Mr. Stretch from the fantastic 4? Was he by any chance related to greer?

Is this possible? NO. Think about it. Hold a gun in your right hand, have a friend stand 5 feet behind you, put the gun in your right hand, and try an stick that to the right side of their face, while they are FACING right. Will it be possible? NO. For real. Think about it, yet, actually do it.


You got one thing right though, the shots from the hill. And we can see this in some of the .gif images in 7forevers thread about JFKS assassination. What happens when we dig deeper on it? We find that there was actually a police report from someone in the area, that a person was leaving a storm run off drain that went from the sewers, to the river, with a hunting rifle on their back, brown leather jacket. Just like in the watchmen.
Why would they do it like that? So anyone who comes up with the 'idea' they can just shrug off, and say they saw it in a movie.

What is the problem with this though? The drain, that the person was supposedly reported leaving, connects directly to the storm drain that is right behind the fence on top of that hill. The only access point in that area that a person could fit through, since the storm drain on the street has no run off access for a person to go through, and the only way out is through the cover they entered in.

See what you've done 7? Brain washed people beyond what is physically possible. Like mr. fruttinutter.
It IS IMPOSSIBLE for greer to be the killer. Muzzle velocities alone, would of ripped the front of his face off that close, and second, it is impossible for a person standing infront, and to the left of the man they are shooting. To shoot that person with a gun in their right hand, above the right eye brow, in a fashon to the sense it exits out the back of the head, instead of behind the right ear. With out pressing the gun directly to his forehead.

So shut up, you owe DTv an apology for 40 pages of spammed bullshit man. You damn retarded shill.


Unless JFKs face, was looking straight to the left, and I mean straight across the seats, it would be IMPOSSIBLE. and through out the video, he is not looking STRAIGHT across the seats towards his wife, he ducks and covers. Also, if greer was the shooter, how do you explain the shot shotgun passenger in the right side of his abdomen, in front of JFK you FUCKING IDIOT.

I really hope you fall down a flight of stairs or something.
moron.

And to all you who I am sure will complain about me making fun of this fucking idiot, you know what I hate the most? People breeding retards like it is going out of fashion. I have no sympathy to them, or anything that would happen to them, and actually wish them off the planet for the better. K thx.
You disagree, ask 7 for your tinfoil brain protector hat, I am sure he will give you more of a discount than Disclosetv will.