Kenneth Humphreys - Jesus Never Existed, Judaism & Christian

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Kenneth Humphreys - Jesus Never Existed, Judaism & Christianity(RED ICE RADIO)



July 29, 2010
Kenneth Humphreys is the author of "Jesus Never Existed". He's been running the website jesusneverexisted.com for about 10 years and he joins us to discuss his work and research on the lack of historical references and historical records as proof for the existence of Jesus. We progress chronologically through the timeline and of the ancient world. We talk about the rise of Judaism, the Jewish people, creation of Christianity and how the religion was created and exported and eventually adopted by the Roman Empire as the official state religion. How did this happen? Who were the propagandists involved in this process? We go though the history and progress forward and talk about the Roman Catholic Church, the creations of Islam, and the fight with Judaism. Topics Discussed: Jesus not a single character? Jesus of Gamala, Jesus Ben Panthera, Jacob the Min, Fulfillment, The Jesus Seminar, The Jewish Story, Was there a King David? Judea, Galilee, Is it all Mythology, Who noticed Jesus when he supposedly was alive? The Crucifixion, Roman Empire, Josephus, Messiah, The Jewish - Roman War, Councils of Carthage, First Council of Nicaea, The Bar Kokhba Revolt, Rival Christian Movements, Orthodoxy, History, Messianic Judaism, Catholicism, Judaism Exported, 38,000 Christian Denominations, The Persecution of the Christian, The Arrest of Peter, Martyrs, Who Wrote the Bible? The Piso Family, Vespasian, Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus, Joseph Atwill, Titus, India, Glastonbury, Cleopatra & Caesar, Caesarian, Dan brown, Bloodline, Shroud of Turin and more. Don't miss our second hour with Kenneth Humphreys as we talk about the Roman Catholic Church, The Christian Crusades, Zionism, Rise of Radical Islam, The Knights Templar, Jesuits, Dark Ages, Burning of Witches, Symbolism of the Church and more.

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[Pateriot Profile]

Kenneth Humphreys is delusional if he seriously thinks that Jesus never existed. If his argument is that everything that we believe about Jesus is probably not true, than I would have to agree; to say he never existed is just plain wrong, almost to the point of intentional deception.

[Pateriot Profile]

Kenneth Humphreys is delusional if he seriously thinks that Jesus never existed. If his argument is that everything that we believe about Jesus is probably not true, than I would have to agree; to say he never existed is just plain wrong, almost to the point of intentional deception.

[Anuki Profile]

Kenneth Humphreys is delusional if he seriously thinks that Jesus never existed. If his argument is that everything that we believe about Jesus is probably not true, than I would have to agree; to say he never existed is just plain wrong, almost to the point of intentional deception.

I like to believe he existed but to be honest,
claiming this:

to say he never existed is just plain wrong

is based on ..????

[Endless16 Profile]

Jesus never existed, it's all about symbolism... If there is a God it's likely he doesn't speak English or Latin too btw...

[Lowsix Profile]

Kenneth Humphreys is delusional if he seriously thinks that Jesus never existed. If his argument is that everything that we believe about Jesus is probably not true, than I would have to agree; to say he never existed is just plain wrong, almost to the point of intentional deception.

I agree.

And Anuki, people do refuse to accept this, but he is referenced by historians contemporary to his time, his crucifixion is noted in roman records (court documents to pontius pilate), and there are around 6 legitimate external references to the man...

its astounding how many times ive posted it, and each times its simply written off..when for a fair good portion of the academic world...do accept his existence.

Just to address the simpler "did he exist?" question..the answer is yes.
And agreed with Pat that to state unequivocally he did not is intentional deception.

What, where, and how the man became the myth is truly legitimate territory however.

[sockpuppet Profile]

and there are around 6 legitimate external references to the man...

Some of that is contested still... I don't think it's strong enough to build an argument on.

[Endless16 Profile]

Kenneth Humphreys is delusional if he seriously thinks that Jesus never existed. If his argument is that everything that we believe about Jesus is probably not true, than I would have to agree; to say he never existed is just plain wrong, almost to the point of intentional deception.

I agree.

And Anuki, people do refuse to accept this, but he is referenced by historians contemporary to his time, his crucifixion is noted in roman records (court documents to pontius pilate), and there are around 6 legitimate external references to the man...

its astounding how many times ive posted it, and each times its simply written off..when for a fair good portion of the academic world...do accept his existence.

Just to address the simpler "did he exist?" question..the answer is yes.
And agreed with Pat that to state unequivocally he did not is intentional deception.

What, where, and how the man became the myth is truly legitimate territory however.

He didn't exist, Christianity is based on the religions which came before it, it's a natural progression, the stories are metaphors not to be taken literally, any historians which mentioned Jesus at the time were probably talking about the stories or the new religious cult and their belief system, or making the same mistake we are making today and were taking them literally...

Most of Christianity is based on Judaism with more emphasis on Astrology.

[Sakattack Profile]

Kenneth Humphreys is delusional if he seriously thinks that Jesus never existed. If his argument is that everything that we believe about Jesus is probably not true, than I would have to agree; to say he never existed is just plain wrong, almost to the point of intentional deception.

I agree.

And Anuki, people do refuse to accept this, but he is referenced by historians contemporary to his time, his crucifixion is noted in roman records (court documents to pontius pilate), and there are around 6 legitimate external references to the man...

its astounding how many times ive posted it, and each times its simply written off..when for a fair good portion of the academic world...do accept his existence.

Just to address the simpler "did he exist?" question..the answer is yes.
And agreed with Pat that to state unequivocally he did not is intentional deception.

What, where, and how the man became the myth is truly legitimate territory however.

Please, do some mature research before saying that there are Roman records of Jesus. There is ABSOLUTELY NO FORMAL RECORD OF JESUS . Not even the historians of Jesus's time mention him. Best example is Josephus, who was born in Judea a bit before Jesus's supposed death , and became the best historian of his time. His writings include details of lives of common crooks and enemies of judaism and anything and everything that happened at his time that he could know about, but only 2 brief passages about jesus, both of which have been debunked and one of the 2 has been proven to be a fraud of the early Catholic church. Now why would the church need to create proof of Jesus? Especially the early church since their time was so close to Jesus's supposed life time.

I could go on for hours about why Jesus never existed, not the Jesus we know about anyways.

The book of James, starts by saying the name of Jesus once and never repeats ANYTHING about him, not his name, not his teachings nothing. Many Paulists have said that it is a book at the edge of being heretical, because it teaches salvation through works and not faith as Paul taught. The book of James was written by someone from the original church of Jerusalem, the first passage is an interpolation by the early church. The Jerusalem church was started by people who had met a very real Jesus, who they believed was the Messiah of the Jewish people, as promised in the bible. That messiah would come back to liberate them from the oppressor. Does this sound like the Jesus we know from the New Testament? What we know is the Pauline doctrine, a guy who i believe used the Jerusalem church and their messiah to create Christianity. His motive could very well be to keep his precious judaism free of the Jesus pollution. And he made it happen by makng Jesus the Greek's messiah.

Ever wandered why James never tried to help Paul when they almost lynched him in Jerusalem?

Ever wandered, how can Paul teach to not ask Judgement from outside the church but solve our differences from within because the others are not worthy to judge us, but when he is cornered in Jerusalem he asks to be judged by Nero?

He was a manipulator and a very good one at that.

At the Jewish court he says he is Jewish
At the Roman court he says he is Roman
And at the right time he asks for Nero

I see a man bying time and playing all his cards, i see a manipulator, a self proclaimed 13th apostle, with a vision confirmed by someone who was not even there when it supposedly happened, who confirmed it with another "vision", a dream.

It's ridiculous

[Flecktarn Profile]

the real santa ,never exsisted ,made up by coke ,sorry kids
harry potters not real ,sorry kids
jesus is not real ,its a story in a book ,,sorry beleivers
Atheism is the only true religion ,,,,sorry i dont beleive you