Kenyans seek UK compensation for colonial abuses

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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 10:00 am » by *WillEase*


Published on Oct 4, 2012 by AlJazeeraEnglish

The British high court in London will decide on Friday, whether a case brought by a group of elderly Kenyans will continue.

The court has access to more than eight thousand secret files, and is considering if too much time has passed to hold a fair trial.

They are seeking compensation for abuses committed by British colonial forces in the 1950s.



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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 11:40 am » by Icarus1


another dirty secret from englands colonial past rears its ugly head, let me tell you something bro if england had to pay for all its past sins around the world there wouldnt be enough money on the planet to do so , look how they treat the gurkhas ffs




Mahatma Gandhi - "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.
We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.

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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 12:58 pm » by Edgar 2.0


Icarus1 wrote:another dirty secret from englands colonial past rears its ugly head, let me tell you something bro if england had to pay for all its past sins around the world there wouldnt be enough money on the planet to do so , look how they treat the gurkhas ffs




Mahatma Gandhi - "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.


Well, putting Gandhi into context with Black Africans is not really a smart thing to do :

I feel convinced that every
minute wasted over the matter merely hastens a calamity for Johannesburg and
that through absolutely no fault of the British Indians. Why, of all places in
Johannesburg, the Indian Location should be chosen for dumping down all the
Kaffirs of the town passes my comprehension


http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL004.PDF

But he was powerless to accommodate us beyond
the horrible din and the yells of the Native prisoners throughout
the day and partly at night also. Many of the Native prisoners are only
one degree removed from the animal and often created rows and
fought among themselves in their cells. The Governor could not
separate the very few Indian prisoners (It speaks volumes for Indians
that among several hundred there were hardly half a dozen Indian
prisoners.) from the cells occupied by the Native prisoners. And yet it
is quite clear that separation is a physical necessity. So much was the
classification of Indians and other Asiatics with the Natives insisted
upon that our jumpers, which being new were not fully marked, had to
be labelled “N”, meaning Natives.


http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL008.PDF

Kaffir :

The word kaffir, sometimes spelled kaffer or kafir, is an offensive term for a black person, most common in South Africa and other African countries. Generally considered a racial or ethnic slur in modern usage, it was previously a neutral term for black southern African people.

The word is derived from the Arabic term Kafir, which means 'disbeliever' or literally, 'one who conceals [the truth]'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffir_%28racial_term%29

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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 1:29 pm » by Noentry


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Everyone who could of been held accountable is dead or to old to prosecute.
This is now an historical crime.

Not justice, but Money is all that is left, for the victims.
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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 1:38 pm » by Edgar 2.0


Noentry wrote:When talking about the Empire.
Alf Garnett must be consulted.


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Everyone who could of been held accountable is dead or to old to prosecute.
This is now an historical crime.


Not justice, but Money is all that is left, for the victims.


Yeah, a historical crime is, well...historical. :D When it's old, it's much easier to dismiss. Like, let bygones be bygones.

Anyways, i've always admired Ze Germans because of their apology to the Jews. And, while we're at it, the Croats (which had a quisling nazi state during the WW2) also.

I'd like to see Brits to do the same way to their ex-colonial states.
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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 1:48 pm » by Noentry


Edgar 2.0 wrote:
Yeah, a historical crime is, well...historical. :D When it's old, it's much easier to dismiss. Like, let bygones be bygones.

Anyways, i've always admired Ze Germans because of their apology to the Jews. And, while we're at it, the Croats (which had a quisling nazi state during the WW2) also.

I'd like to see Brits to do the same way to their ex-colonial states.


So would I.

As long as its "historical" Ze British will eventually apologise.
Maybe in 75-100 years, the Iraqis might get an apology too.

Jesus was an Englishman, you know. :mrgreen:


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PostFri Oct 05, 2012 7:53 pm » by Bandanko


England should pay for its colonial crimes, but then they should also charge the countries for bringing sanitation, roads, hospitals, booze prostitution and other modern marvels ;)

I often apologise to the Indians (when heavily drunk) about what my country did to theirs... We stole your diamond i moan, we raped your country i cry and sob. if only you could have stopped fighting each other for a month you could have kicked us out...

Dont know a lot about Africa though tbh, but the dutch and french should be in the dock with "us" if were talking colonialism. the spanish should be made to pay for the south americans they wiped out.

then the americans should have to pay for the american indians that were killed...

you get to power on the backs of others, that is how it was done then, that is still how it is done now unfortunatly :(



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