Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s trial will convict us all

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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 1:45 pm » by Timewarp


by Paul Craig Roberts

Republican members of Congress and what masquerades as a “conservative” media are outraged that the Obama administration intends to try in federal court Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of 9/11, and four alleged co-conspirators.

The Republican and right-wing rant that a trial is too good for these people proves what I have written for a number of years: Republicans and many Americans who think of themselves as conservatives have no regard for the US Constitution or for civil liberties.

They have no appreciation for the point made by Thomas Paine in his Dissertations on First Principles of Government (1790):

“An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.”

Republicans and American conservatives regard civil liberties as coddling devices for criminals and terrorists. They assume that police and prosecutors are morally pure and, in addition, never make mistakes. An accused person is guilty or government wouldn’t have accused him. All of my life I have heard self-described conservatives disparage lawyers who defend criminals. Such “conservatives” live in an ideal, not real, world.

Even some of those, such as Stuart Taylor in the National Journal, who defend giving Mohammed a court trial do so on the grounds that there are no risks as Mohammed is certain to be convicted and that “a civilian trial will show Americans and the rest of the world that our government is sure it can prove the 9/11 defendants guilty in the fairest of all courts.”

Taylor agrees that Mohammed deserves “summary execution,” but that it is a good Machiavellian ploy to try Mohammed in civilian court, while dealing with cases that have “trickier evidentiary problems” in “more flexible military commissions, away from the brightest spotlights.”

In other words, Stuart Taylor and the National Journal endorse Mohammed’s trial as a show trial that will prove both America’s honorable respect for fair trials and Muslim guilt for 9/11.

If, as Taylor writes, “the government’s evidence is so strong,” why wasn’t Mohammed tried years ago? Why was he held for years and tortured--apparently water boarded 183 times--in violation of US law and the Geneva Conventions? How can the US government put a defendant on trial when its treatment of him violates US statutory law, international law, and every precept of the US legal code? Mohammed has been treated as if he were a captive of Hitler’s Gestapo or Stalin’s KGB. And now we are going to finish him off in a show trial.

If the barbaric treatment Mohammed has received during his captivity hasn’t driven him insane, how do we know he hasn’t decided to confess in order to obtain for himself for evermore the glory of the deed? How many people can claim to have outwitted the CIA, the National Security Agency and all 16 US intelligence agencies, NORAD, the Pentagon, the National Security Council, airport security (four times on one morning), US air traffic control, the US Air Force, the military Joint Chiefs of Staff, all the neocons, Mossad, and even the supposedly formidable Dick Cheney?

Considering that some Muslims will blow themselves up in order to take out a handful of Israelis or US and NATO occupation troops, the payoff that Mohammed will get out of a guilty verdict is enormous. Are we really sure we want to create a Muslim Superhero of such stature?

Originally, according to the US government, Osama bin Laden was the mastermind of 9/11. To get bin Laden is the excuse given for the US invasion of Afghanistan, which set up the invasion of Iraq. But after eight years of total failure to catch Osama bin Laden, it became absolutely necessary to convict some culprit.

Unfortunately, there will be no such sensible outcome. David Feige has told us what the outcome will be (Slate, Nov. 19). The prosecution doesn’t need any evidence, because no judge and no jury is going to let the demonized “mastermind of 9/11” off. No judge or juror wants to be forever damned by the brainwashed American public or assassinated by right-wing crazies. Keep in mind that the kid, John Walker Lindh, termed “the American Taliban” by an ignorant and propagandistic US media, was guilty of nothing except being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Despite the complete trampling of his every right, he got 20 years on a coerced plea bargain.

The price that Mohammed will pay will be small compared to the price we Americans will pay. The outcome of Mohammed’s trial will complete the transformation of the US legal system from a shield of the people into a weapon in the hands of the state. Feige writes that Mohammed’s statements obtained by torture will not be suppressed, that witnesses against him will not be produced (“national security”), that documents that compromise the prosecution will be redacted. At each stage of Mohammed’s appeals process, higher courts will enshrine into legal precedents the denial of the Constitutional right to a speedy trial, thus enshrining indefinite detention, the denial of the right against damning pretrial publicity, thus allowing demonization prior to trial, and the denial of the right to have witnesses and documents produced, thus eviscerating a defendant’s rights to exculpatory evidence and to confront adverse witnesses, The twisted logic necessary to disentangle Mohammed’s torture from his confession will also be upheld and will “provide a blueprint for the government, giving them the prize they’ve been after all this time--a legal way both to torture and to prosecute.”

It took Hitler a while to corrupt the German courts. Hitler first had to create new courts, like President George W. Bush’s military tribunals, that did not require evidence, using in place of evidence hearsay, secret charges, and self-incrimination obtained by torture.

Every American should be concerned that the Obama administration has decided to use Mohammed’s trial to complete the corruption of the American court system. When Mohammed’s trial is over, an American Joe Stalin or Adolf Hitler will be able to convict America’s Founding Fathers on charges of treason and terrorism. No one will be safe.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com

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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 2:50 pm » by Cornbread714


Good article!
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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 5:10 pm » by Spock


The article was bullshit.

I'm pretty damn sure Thomas Pain wasn't talking about a radical terrorist that orchestrated the murder of over 3,000 people in one day. I guarantee Thomas Pain would say pulverize the fool.

Also KSM is a war combatant that was lucky he didn't already get met with M-16s to make him look like he went through a meat grinder.

KSM deserves NO public trial to put his ideologies on display, he deserves to be taken behind the wood shed and chipped starting at his toes.
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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 5:37 pm » by Opiwan


I volunteer to lower him into it.

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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 5:43 pm » by Cornbread714


spock wrote:The article was bullshit.

I'm pretty damn sure Thomas Pain wasn't talking about a radical terrorist that orchestrated the murder of over 3,000 people in one day. I guarantee Thomas Pain would say pulverize the fool.

Also KSM is a war combatant that was lucky he didn't already get met with M-16s to make him look like he went through a meat grinder.

KSM deserves NO public trial to put his ideologies on display, he deserves to be taken behind the wood shed and chipped starting at his toes.


Once again you miss the entire point. Right over your head.
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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 5:54 pm » by Spock


No it wasn't over my head CornBread. I had a hard time getting through the first half of it.

Because what I read was more conservative bashing from an opinion that i don't agree with. KSM does not deserve the rights of an American citizen. He should not be brought to NY unless you set him on a street corner and allow him to find his way out.

What is the point of the trial. He's a war criminal. He proclaimed war on the U.S.

Why is this article "over my head"? I'm pretty sure I'm not reading anything into it that is not blatantly stated.
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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 6:09 pm » by Heinousone


It will be a laughing matter for me when our country falls and so many of the secret workings of our clandestine government come out into the light and we all begin to see what duped fools we are. Running around proclaiming someone guilty simply because we are told he is guilty. Running around agreeing to doing such horrible things to a person simply because we are told it is necessary. Running around defending the government in this matter even though they cared not to defend Americans on the day supposedly orchestrated by this man.

We have fallen so far.

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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 6:12 pm » by Cornbread714


spock wrote:No it wasn't over my head CornBread. I had a hard time getting through the first half of it.

Because what I read was more conservative bashing from an opinion that i don't agree with. KSM does not deserve the rights of an American citizen. He should not be brought to NY unless you set him on a street corner and allow him to find his way out.


It's not conservative-bashing, as such.

The author is not your average bleeding-heart liberal, Spock. He worked in the Reagan administration and was considered "the father of Reaganomics".

The issue is about the judicial system and the need to protect it and the rule of law, according to the Constitution. It's about your freedom, believe it or not.
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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 6:16 pm » by Spock


WHAT! Come on - KSM killed 3,000 people on 9-11 - he was a hit man. It has nothing to do with our government wanting to start a war with Islam. It has something to do with Larry Silverstein wanting to collect insurance money and gain stock profits.

But then again, just because Silverstein is a Jew doesn't mean this has anything to do with Israel or zionism.

How about the Iceman. Should he be loved and justified?
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PostSun Nov 29, 2009 6:19 pm » by Spock


cornbread714 wrote:
spock wrote:No it wasn't over my head CornBread. I had a hard time getting through the first half of it.

Because what I read was more conservative bashing from an opinion that i don't agree with. KSM does not deserve the rights of an American citizen. He should not be brought to NY unless you set him on a street corner and allow him to find his way out.


It's not conservative-bashing, as such.

The author is not your average bleeding-heart liberal, Spock. He worked in the Reagan administration and was considered "the father of Reaganomics".

The issue is about the judicial system and the need to protect it and the rule of law, according to the Constitution. It's about your freedom, believe it or not.


War criminal. The man is a war criminal, that first struck the United States from a foreign land.

Hang his ass. He is one of the guilty people behind 9-11. Not a poor soul that should be given a "fair" trial.
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