Lenard Walson and Gridkeeper "astrophotography" HOAX !!!

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PostFri Oct 10, 2008 2:18 pm » by Qiqiba


7hidden7agenda7 wrote:It seems to me that walson is more interested in cold hard cash, than about ufos, disclosure, truth or honesty. If he's so outraged by other peoples use of his "work" then he can fkn well sue them!! Take it to court and let a judge decide. & if he wants people to take him seriously then he's going to have to provide some serious answers, rather than get wallstreet, sorry i mean gridkeeper, to distract people with nonsense!


Unforunately, the only thing Gridkeeper was going to explain was that he is not Walson. Oh, and another one, about some Bambi and his lamp... :lol: :lol: :lol:

When asked really serious questions, Gridkeeper just disappeared. Isn't it enough proof, wallstret? But honestly! :flop:
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PostSun Mar 01, 2009 3:07 pm » by Gridkeeper


Abovetopsecret hoax gridkeeper and john lenard walson


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PostSun Mar 01, 2009 3:10 pm » by Gridkeeper


darkplanet wrote:Gridkeeper,

Look beyond the mudslinging here and focus on what people universally are asking you for. If you want people to respect you and or follow your story then you desperately need to provide the following (or link to a page which addresses these points):

- Coordinates to the objects in question. Verification is paramount.

- Information on how you film the objects. Replication is paramount.

- Reasons why no other amateur astronomers have replicated your results. Logic is paramount.

- What are you hiding from? Get on Camera with your partner and simply show the world that you are two separate people.

- If you can't or won't show faces then get the camera out and film a typical evening looking at the stars. Lets see footage of you two attempting to capture these images. Lets see the equipment, lets see the software. Setting is everything.


If you can't do or answer any of the above then there is very good reason for people to count you out as a fraud. Prove them wrong, answer some simple questions.


Looking up at the night sky with John and Gridkeeper (Stars and Venus)
Stars and Venus
Looking up at the night sky with John and Gridkeeper
Showing Venus filmed closely with a video cam and also showing the back view of the telecam. The stars shown in the second part of the film are orion's Belt and below. The point here is to show how stars aren't visible when zoomed in on one point of light in space.


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PostSun Mar 01, 2009 4:31 pm » by Hesop


:lol: Where's the objects? The craft?
- Coordinates to the objects in question. Verification is paramount.

- Information on how you film the objects. Replication is paramount.

- Reasons why no other amateur astronomers have replicated your results. Logic is paramount.

I believe the dispute of your material must include the SUBJECT MATTER. It would seem that your intent and focus is centered on notoriety, and not 100s OF GIANT MOTHERSHIPS IN ORBIT GETTING READY TO INVADE OUR STUPID ASSES.
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PostSun Mar 01, 2009 5:21 pm » by Towelie


Ive never seen any of this stuff before or heard of either of those people(or maybe just that one person?) all ive seen is whats on here and ive gotta say :lol: :lol: :lol: . Why bother asking him for proof its obvious hes either got none or doesnt wanna show it(id say hes got none,) theres been plenty of oportunities to offer varification about this, there just isnt any - it realy is this simple if there is any proof it wouldve been shown by now, no proof or anything like that suggests FAKE probably tryin to sell a few dvds.
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PostSun Mar 01, 2009 5:47 pm » by Dourselfafavor


Well I have read many other posts not only here but all over the internet about these three clowns and none of it is good, they claim to have this SUPER DUPER telescope that no-one in the world has ever thought of in 400 years+, Some guy had even offered them a quick 5k to go and prove it to him and they did not take him up on it?
Now you tell me what that says in volumes?
Not only this he slanders the admin on this site ( on another forum) for disabling his account here? If it is disabled then tell me how you are posting then BS artist? I would say it's just more BS coming from two or three bs artists and that is about the extent of this, I would say that no more attention be given to these people because it seems to me that they THRIVE on it and need it like a drug, furthermore I think that people like this SHOULD be banned from sites that try and promote the truth.
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PostSun Mar 01, 2009 6:31 pm » by Avimoas


7hidden7agenda7 wrote:There are several ways to detect a hoax.
Music is one of them.

really? the Music ??
so this is a hoax


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PostMon Mar 02, 2009 5:36 pm » by Gridkeeper


towelie wrote:Ive never seen any of this stuff before or heard of either of those people(or maybe just that one person?) all ive seen is whats on here and ive gotta say :lol: :lol: :lol: . Why bother asking him for proof its obvious hes either got none or doesnt wanna show it(id say hes got none,) theres been plenty of oportunities to offer varification about this, there just isnt any - it realy is this simple if there is any proof it wouldve been shown by now, no proof or anything like that suggests FAKE probably tryin to sell a few dvds.


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PostMon Mar 02, 2009 5:47 pm » by Gridkeeper


dourselfafavor wrote:Well I have read many other posts not only here but all over the internet about these three clowns and none of it is good, they claim to have this SUPER DUPER telescope that no-one in the world has ever thought of in 400 years+, Some guy had even offered them a quick 5k to go and prove it to him and they did not take him up on it?
Now you tell me what that says in volumes?
Not only this he slanders the admin on this site ( on another forum) for disabling his account here? If it is disabled then tell me how you are posting then BS artist? I would say it's just more BS coming from two or three bs artists and that is about the extent of this, I would say that no more attention be given to these people because it seems to me that they THRIVE on it and need it like a drug, furthermore I think that people like this SHOULD be banned from sites that try and promote the truth.


Oh how stupid of me, people don't make inventions.Right...

So what do YOU know about the truth? 5k, what for two people to fly to the usa and back and pay for it out of the 5k whilst also taking time off work, and I don't have a passport. Are you crazy or do you just not bother to look at ALL the FACTS. It volumes it tells me you need to be re educted in some way.

My account has never been disabled but when I first posted on the forum and was asked some questions I found I was unable to reply so haven't tried again 'til now.
If I have slandered the admin then simply quote post the link. Is that too hard.
i did a search and found that I had said this,"I was going to do this at disclose tv but there is too much abuse there."

and this

"That's interesting to know as I'm seriously considering pulling my account from there."

Where is the slander? Maybe you show me your link and I'll show you mine? Deal or no deal?

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PostMon Mar 02, 2009 5:53 pm » by Gridkeeper


avimoas wrote:
7hidden7agenda7 wrote:There are several ways to detect a hoax.
Music is one of them.

really? the Music ??
so this is a hoax


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Music shouldn't make any difference to the content of the video. I have been a music producer for 18 years #so I put music on most of my videos. People tried to rubbish that also 'til I showed a video of me building a vinyl mastering studio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eqlMibXAlU
Here is evidence of something I produced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89PH8dWH-Fo
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