london declared lawless the army to take back the streets

[Flecktarn Profile]

These riots have nothing to do with Mark DugganAs I write this there are sirens buzzing past my window, a bin on fire outside my flat and a Carphone Warehouse store smashed-in down the road. But that's nothing compared to the sights we've seen in places like Hackney, Clapham, Croydon and now areas outside of London such as Birmingham and Liverpool.
And why is this happening? There's no answer anymore. It's pointless even trying to look for one. One looter was caught on camera explaining it 'was fun' while another claimed they were getting their 'taxes back'. Quite how much tax a 15-year-old boy pays I'm not sure.
What started on Saturday as a vigil protest against police for the shooting of a local Tottenham man called Mark Duggan has resulted in mindless violence with no cause, no reasoning behind it. Nick Clegg came in for criticism yesterday when he used the word 'mindless' to describe the riots, but he's right. I'm willing to bet that most of the vandals - many of whom are teenagers - causing this mayhem have never even heard of Duggan.
Pundits and politicians are desperate to politicise the events of the past few days but there's little point attempting to apply rationale to people like this. What political agenda could possibly lead a bunch of teenagers to loot a Nandos?
Make no mistake, they're not crusaders on some just cause, most of them don't even have a point to make, these are morons acting like morons — nothing more, nothing less. It must actually be insulting to Mark Duggan's family and friends — who have spoken out against the riots — that people are doing this in his name, using his death as an excuse to steal some crappy trainers from a JJB Sports.
The most infuriating part of the evening's coverage came when Sky News interviewed a man whose family business — a furniture shop in Croydon — was burned to the ground along with his livelihood. How is he to blame for anything? What has he done to deserve this? For trying to build something up he gets punished by those who are hellbent on tearing everything down.
Not only that but as I write this there are reports that flats and other residential areas being set alight. There's literally no explanation why people are being made to endure such chaos just so some can enjoy their teenage kicks.
It's days like today I feel ashamed to be British. We can't even protest without it turning into downright thuggery. Welcome back from your holidays David and Boris. Get those water cannons from Ireland and fix this. And in the words of the police; parents, find out where your children are.By Richard Evans | Editor's Corner

[Daemonfoe Profile Website]

The liberals have convinced me finally.

I now think the police shold stand around blowing their whistles, and just watch London burn because to face down lawlessness is just proof of..well something retarded and nebulous.

Hand it over to the street, so no one will think there's some nefarious plan.
Let the crminals run the street, bc looting and burning is fucking awesome.
Show the PTB whos boss. Burn your own neighborhood to ashes.

BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER TO THE GROUND.

GREAT GODAMN PLAN.

I am now on the side of the apologists.
law and order is nothing but a ploy.

BURN IT BURN IT.
FUCK BRITAIN
FUCK THE POLICE>

How fucking stupid are you? NO ONE IS SAYING LET IT BURN! The police HAVE BEEN standing around blowing their whistles. This is the reality. THEY ARE LETTING IT BURN. The only thing I see people around here saying is this: "Where are the police? Why won't they take care of this problem? Why are they letting it get so bad that martial law HAS TO be declared in order to quell the situation?"

Do you have such tunnel vision that you can't even engage in the topic? You just make the topic whatever you want to talk about even if it's TOTAL FANTASY?!

[Flecktarn Profile]

LONDON (Reuters) - Just yards from the east London street where riots erupted Monday stands a house for sale that sums up the depth of division in the area.
With five bedrooms, three bathrooms and its own coach house, the elegant property has been put up for sale with an asking price of 1.7 million pounds. The main attraction, according to the advert, is the sought-after location.
Many residents of the diverse borough of Hackney said it was this ever widening and very visible gap between the rich and poor that has exacerbated tension in recent years, especially as government cuts to welfare payments have started to bite.
Britain, one of the world's major economies, has a bigger gap between rich and poor than more than three-quarters of other Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries, according to a 2008 report. Charities in Britain say that inequality is most keenly felt in London.
"It's us versus them, the police, the system," said an unemployed man of Kurdish origin in his early 20s, sitting at the entrance to a Hackney housing estate with four Afro-Caribbean friends who nodded in agreement.
"They call it looting and criminality. It's not that. There's a real hatred against the system," he added, listing what he saw as the police prejudice, discrimination and lack of opportunity that led him and his friends to loot shops, torch bins and hurl missiles at police Monday.
"There's two worlds in this borough. More and more middle classes are coming and we're being pushed out. The shops are pricing stuff like it's the West End, we can't afford the rents. We're the outcasts, we're not wanted any more.
"There's nothing for us."
Those who were out on the streets Monday night, and those who had gathered amid the debris Tuesday morning, said there was no interaction between the two distinct communities, even though they live practically on top of each other.
The rioting in Hackney was the third night of violence across the capital, sparked by the fatal shooting by police of a man in another poor borough.
"Youths are frustrated, they want all the nice clothes. They ain't got no money, they don't have jobs," a 41-year-old youth worker told Reuters, stood outside the Pembury estate, the scene of much of the trouble Monday night and home to mostly young black people.
"To live, to have money in their pocket, they have to thieve, they have to rob.
"The people that run this country, they got money, they are rich, they got nice houses. They don't care about poor people."
"SCREWING THE SYSTEM"
The statistics confirm the problem.
In 2007 Hackney was ranked the second most deprived local authority in England, behind Liverpool. More than 10 percent are unemployed. Some 11,000 people rely on state benefits to live, meaning some 24 people are competing for every available job.
According to the council, Hackney is ranked sixth out of the 32 London boroughs in terms of crime.
At the same time, small one-bedroom flats regularly cost some 300,000 pounds. On a nearby street, smart cafes are full of young families attracted to the parks and transport links to the nearby financial district. Pricey organic food shops stand next to 'pound shops' -- where all the items cost one pound.
Professor Mike Hardy of the Institute of Community Cohesion said it was not just the division between rich and poor that caused the problem, but the fact they lived so closely together.
"There is a much greater visibility of the difference," he told Reuters. "In London, the current troubles are almost focussed entirely not on a cause or a protest, but on greed and personal want. 'I haven't got something and I can take it'."
Britain's coalition government has made deep spending cuts since coming into power last year to tackle a big budget deficit. The poor say they have been hit hardest, with people in Hackney pointing to the closure of many services.
"The only way we can get out of this is education, and we're not entitled to it, because of the cuts. Even for bricklaying you need a qualification and a waiting list for a course. I signed up in November, and still haven't heard back," the Kurdish man said.
The government has also raised university tuition fees since coming into power, putting a higher education further out of the reach of youths from places like Hackney.
"They're screwing the system so only white middle-class kids can get an education," said another man, who declined to be named. He said politicians were the real criminals, and pointed to a 2009 expenses scandal in which several lawmakers were revealed to have cheated the taxpayer out of thousands of pounds.
"The politicians say that we loot and rob. They are the original gangsters. They talk about copycat crimes. They're the ones that's looting, they're the originals," he said.
One of the Kurdish man's friends pointed to alleged payments made to the police by journalists, claims currently under investigation as part of a wider phone-hacking scandal centred on the now defunct News of the World newspaper, part of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp media conglomerate.
"Everyone's heard about the police taking bribes, the members of parliament stealing thousands with their expenses. They set the example. It's time to loot," the youth said.
(Additional reporting by Tim Castle and Paul Hoskins; Editing by Jon Hemming)

[Harbin Profile]

hating the system = hating gainful employment
hating the system = hating the host society
hating the system = hating those perceived to be of the system

[Lucylastik Profile]

40 years ago Enoch Powell predicted scenes like this happening with his famous Rivers of Blood speech. Politicians do not listen and do not care, they are only interested in their fat wallets.
There are Laws to stop incidents like this one of which is LOITERING WITH INTENT.
If you dont have a valid reason for being at a certain place you were considered by law to be LOITERING. When you have large groups of youths roaming the streets of London aimlessly, rioting and looting going on. Law abiding citezens should avoid being spectators and leave the area, today with media coverage they can watch it all unfold on T.V.
Many countries shoot looters once riots such as this take place. In England they get a slap on the wrist and a silly fine. Unfortuneately the do gooders and human rights lobbyists never saw this coming.
It is time to get out of the Europian Union and get rid of the human rights laws imposed on us by Belgium and enforce our old legitimate laws to stop such stupid activity happening again.
It is not a human right to riot, break into other peoples property, steal, cause untold damage and commit arson. It is not a legal human right to overturn and set fire to cars parked in streets.
Make offenders pay restitution in full for the damage they cause, a mandantory £1000 fine and lock looters up for five years. England's got too soft on lawless yobs and hooligans they do the crime let them pay the time.