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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:09 pm » by **Bahb3**

but what could be there motives...

They're Christians.....so the Answer is simple.... $

I bet they figure there are plenty of ignorant fools in the Disclosure Movement to fleece. I bet they look out for anyone who believe the BS people like David Wilcock spew on a regular basis, or perhaps fools who blame everything on HAARP.

Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:25 pm » by **Wolfbane7272**

bahb3 wrote:The burden of proof is not on me.......friend.

thats just my point none of us can prove anything conclusively ,wether there is a afterlife or not ,or you simply go into the ground , my personal opinion is that whatever you interpret in your own reality is what you get.

cheers

Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:51 pm » by **Bahb3**

That's nice, however that does not mean you shouldn't be challenged when you decide to prothletize to people who haven't seeked your "special" (I mean that in the retarded sense) beliefs.

If you can't handle an opposing view, perhaps you should keep you BS religious beliefs to yourself? Seems reasonable to me.....

Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:04 am » by **Wolfbane7272**

bahb3 wrote:That's nice, however that does not mean you shouldn't be challenged when you decide to prothletize to people who haven't seeked your "special" (I mean that in the retarded sense) beliefs.

If you can't handle an opposing view, perhaps you should keep you BS religious beliefs to yourself? Seems reasonable to me.....

I can agree that it should never be pushed onto someone .nor should anyone look at another person in judgement just because they do not follow the truth you are pushing ,but also i think its important to have respect for the diversity of beliefs wether we choose to believe them or not, and not judge it so callously , for we are all different and have different points of view , enviroments,etc . that is where i see religious tolerance come into play, if we didnt have that we would be fighting war after war after war in the name of our truth . and thats all i have to say , I appreciate your views and respect them as your own .

cheers

Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:22 am » by **Bahb3**

i think its important to have respect for the diversity of beliefs wether we choose to believe them or not, and not judge it so callously , for we are all different and have different points of view , enviroments,etc . that is where i see religious tolerance come into play, if we didnt have that we would be fighting war after war after war in the name of our truth .

Tell that to the Christ Cultists. If they want to kill me for not respecting their religion, that would be inline with their history of the last 2000 years. Thanks for the warning, but I will not let a bunch of Cultists silence me because they are offended. Fuck'em.

Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:30 pm » by **Naturaldefense**

salvation is not a gift,it is earned by hard work,there are many branches to the tree of life and all are valid to those who interpret with a healthy heart,who the hell are you to caution us ,as if you happen to know more than anyone else about the hows or whys of the universe,such an arrogant stance typical of brainwashed religious zealots,you know nothing about jesus,he was not a christian by the way,he was an essene jew,one of many teachers all with the same message,maybe go do some more research please,as your limited grasp is painfully boring .you dont know whats in the mind of god anymore than anyone else,perhaps you should go hang out at some religious site ,it mite suit you more,stop spreading your fear please,this the world does not need,its already done enough damage by idiots like you causing division among mankind,cos thats what you do.by the way christianity is sun worship mate,

Salvation is not earned by hard work, it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast. But God, who is rich in mercy, and his great love for us allowed his only son to be born on this earth, walk and teach us of God, lived without sinning, suffered and die for us, so he could rise again and set up his church (kingdom). For by grace (unmerited favor) we are saved through faith, and that not of ourselves, it is the gift of God. Friend, I am not trying to cause division, unless it is to root out the lies of Lucifer/Satan, his deception includes all accepting sin for the sake of mankind. Sin does still separate us from God - only Jesus can save those who learn through obedience to God's word. Lucifer worship includes the worship of sun, moon and stars - he wants people to worship anything (their cars, homes, bank account, etc. anything put before God is idol worship) and at long as you worship anything but God, you are living for Lucifer. You can't have to masters: are you for or against God mate? Oh yeah, I deeply regret that you do not believe in the living God of creation, I hope that if you feel pricked in your heart you might want to re-evaluate your beliefs.

Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:55 pm » by **Kilaspy**

He is the Son of Man.
He was born of a virgin on 25th. Dec.
He has 12 followers
He turns water into wine.
He heals the sick.
He is transfigured before his deciples.
He dies as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.
He is wrapped in linen and anointed with myrrh.
He resurrects after three days.
He ascends to heaven.
He will come again to judge.
This is not the story of Jesus, it is the story of Osiris/ Dionysus written hundreds of years before the time of Jesus.
A specialist on the New Testament Ernst Kasemann summerized his research on the life of Jesus "One is overwhelmed by how little can be called authentic"
The theologian Bultmann said "The character of Jesus, a clear picture of his personality and life have faded beyond recognition, it would not surprise me in the slightest if the bones of Jesus were found today".
German theologian Holger Kersten said " To ascribe divine authority to writings containing countless contradictions, mistakes, logical errors, false statements and obvious lies borders on blasphemy".

Methinks it is a fairytale.

Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:19 pm » by **Lowsix**

kilaspy wrote:He is the Son of Man.
He was born of a virgin on 25th. Dec.
He has 12 followers
He turns water into wine.
He heals the sick.
He is transfigured before his deciples.
He dies as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.
He is wrapped in linen and anointed with myrrh.
He resurrects after three days.
He ascends to heaven.
He will come again to judge.
This is not the story of Jesus, it is the story of Osiris/ Dionysus written hundreds of years before the time of Jesus.
A specialist on the New Testament Ernst Kasemann summerized his research on the life of Jesus "One is overwhelmed by how little can be called authentic"
The theologian Bultmann said "The character of Jesus, a clear picture of his personality and life have faded beyond recognition, it would not surprise me in the slightest if the bones of Jesus were found today".
German theologian Holger Kersten said " To ascribe divine authority to writings containing countless contradictions, mistakes, logical errors, false statements and obvious lies borders on blasphemy".

Methinks it is a fairytale.

Its called Mythology.

Google it.

Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:50 pm » by **Kilaspy**

Fairytale== A story about imaginary beings and events, often containing a moral message and as a repository of the hopes, passions and fears of humankind.
Near enough!

Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:02 pm » by **Wolfbane7272**

kilaspy wrote:Fairytale== A story about imaginary beings and events, often containing a moral message and as a repository of the hopes, passions and fears of humankind.
Near enough!

here is the ever present glaring fact of the bible , it was written by men ,men fantasize and aspire to greatness ,in word ,thought ,and deed . Never has it truly been the the words of God, but of the men that interpet it as such .So we can all look to ourselves for the folly.