Meditation for stress and anxiety

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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 10:35 pm » by domdabears


Anyone here meditate? Anyone here mediate to reduce stress and anxiety? How do you meditate?

Does it work? How does it work? Does the room have to be silent? Can you do it laying down?




I'm asking, because I have anxiety disorder. It's been getting worse the past few years. I don't know why. I don't take medicine for it. I don't wanna take medicine for it. I try to keep everything natural. I don't wanna feel like a zombie from the medicine.

I've tried a lot of stuff. Kava Kava, st. john's wort, B vitamins, breathing techniques, and I'm now seeing a counselor for it.
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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 10:47 pm » by Doogle


Hi Dom

Can't say I'm particularly experienced with meditation, yeah I've done it, body awareness techniques etc, but I don't DO it per se; But I have seen first hand how controlling one's breathing can reduce the effects of stress and anxiety - we never breath properly, we never use the whole capacity of our lungs (not in resting anyway) and breathwork is large part of many meditation techniques.

Apart from that, get hold of some 5-HTP. It's not a drug, it's a natural food supplement; 5-Hydroxytryptophan- the precursor to serotonin which is the feel good hormone. Tryptophan rich foods - spinach/green leafy veg, cottage cheese, turkey.

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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 10:51 pm » by domdabears


Doogle wrote:Hi Dom

Can't say I'm particularly experienced with meditation, yeah I've done it, body awareness techniques etc, but I don't DO it per se; But I have seen first hand how controlling one's breathing can reduce the effects of stress and anxiety - we never breath properly, we never use the whole capacity of our lungs (not in resting anyway) and breathwork is large part of many meditation techniques.

Apart from that, get hold of some 5-HTP. It's not a drug, it's a natural food supplement; 5-Hydroxytryptophan- the precursor to serotonin which is the feel good hormone. Tryptophan rich foods - spinach/green leafy veg, cottage cheese, turkey.

Nice tip. I'll check it out right now. :flop:
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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:00 pm » by Spock


Depending on the circumstance Dom, meditation can even heighten anxiety. I've dealt with it for over twenty years and have just learned coping techniques. Like you, I have quite all medications. I feel better with an exercise regiment. Somehow feeling healthy eases the grip and frequency of the attacks.

As well, they can go away for years, to the point that you almost wonder how you could have had them in the first place, only to come back, out of the blue, for another year or so.

For me the attacks come on and it is sort of like an old plastic Halloween mask, with a rubber band, imagine putting the mask on and lifting it about an inch from your face and looking through the eye holes. It's like a sense of being detached, along with almost a black haze creeping in from your peripheral. What's worse, is the more you think about it, the heavier it gets.

But, one thing that helps eliminate it almost instantly is having cold air blown onto your face. There is sort of a feeling like, you can't feel your face, so cold water and cold air really does help.

Deep breathing, on the other hand, brings on the feeling of faint, but slow, steady breathing helps.

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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:10 pm » by 99socks


Anxiety problems can be triggered by thyroid problems. It would be a good idea to get your T3 and T4 checked. You may still have to pop a pill, but at least it won't screw with your head.

Just a thought.
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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:11 pm » by domdabears


Spock wrote:Depending on the circumstance Dom, meditation can even heighten anxiety. I've dealt with it for over twenty years and have just learned coping techniques. Like you, I have quite all medications. I feel better with an exercise regiment. Somehow feeling healthy eases the grip and frequency of the attacks.

As well, they can go away for years, to the point that you almost wonder how you could have had them in the first place, only to come back, out of the blue, for another year or so.

For me the attacks come on and it is sort of like an old plastic Halloween mask, with a rubber band, imagine putting the mask on and lifting it about an inch from your face and looking through the eye holes. It's like a sense of being detached, along with almost a black haze creeping in from your peripheral. What's worse, is the more you think about it, the heavier it gets.

But, one thing that helps eliminate it almost instantly is having cold air blown onto your face. There is sort of a feeling like, you can't feel your face, so cold water and cold air really does help.

Deep breathing, on the other hand, brings on the feeling of faint, but slow, steady breathing helps.


Yeah, I've had it for a long time. It does go away some times, and some times it will be around for months. It's a big reason why I quit smoking weed years ago, because it starting giving me panic attacks.

I finally got health insurance a couple months ago and decided to go to the doctor about this. I went three weeks ago. He prescribed me zoloft for the anxiety. I took 1 pill and it made everything 100 times worse.

I had what I can only explain it as, chemical anxiety for 2 weeks straight from it. I only took 1 pill and I never took another one again. It's just now feeling better.
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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:13 pm » by domdabears


99socks wrote:Anxiety problems can be triggered by thyroid problems. It would be a good idea to get your T3 and T4 checked. You may still have to pop a pill, but at least it won't screw with your head.

Just a thought.

It's funny you say that. You hit the nail on the head.

I was just at the doctors today. My thyroid levels were low. I just got the T4 and TSH re-checked a couple hours ago.

I also just set up an appointment with an Endocrinologist for Thursday.
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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:19 pm » by Doogle


99socks wrote:Anxiety problems can be triggered by thyroid problems. It would be a good idea to get your T3 and T4 checked. You may still have to pop a pill, but at least it won't screw with your head.

Just a thought.


Good point, and thought. Get the RT3 checked as well. But there isn't necessarily a need to pop pharmaceuticals - but maybe pharmaceutical grade natural supplements. There are squillions of things though that can cause/exacerbate anxiety, from vitamin/mineral deficiency/toxicity to heavy metal toxicity (heavy metal toxicity - not the too much Iron Maiden type)

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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:20 pm » by 99socks


Dom Da Bears wrote:
99socks wrote:Anxiety problems can be triggered by thyroid problems. It would be a good idea to get your T3 and T4 checked. You may still have to pop a pill, but at least it won't screw with your head.

Just a thought.

It's funny you say that. You hit the nail on the head.

I was just at the doctors today. My thyroid levels were low. I just got the T4 and TSH re-checked a couple hours ago.

I also just set up an appointment with an Endocrinologist for Thursday.



DEFINITELY something to tell him/her about. Also, don't forget to ask about WHY you have a thyroid problem. It could be just the first symptom of something else, like an autoimmune disorder triggered by ___________ (fill in the blank). At least for me, the trigger is corn/gluten and the subsequent nutritional deficiency from those hidden food allergies.
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PostTue Sep 04, 2012 11:21 pm » by domdabears


My thyroid level was at .24 and I cant remember the number after the 4.

I had to re take my blood test a couple hours ago. I'll find out tomorrow.

Then Thursday I'll go see the Endocrinology specialist.

I hope they don't have to take out my thyroid gland. That would suck.
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