meteorite nazi buddha looks like jesus...

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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 9:34 am » by Teloc


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A Buddhist statue brought to Germany by a Nazi expedition to Tibet has been proven to be of extraterrestrial origin. Sounds like an Indiana Jones movie, right? Well, it isn’t.

Known as the ‘Iron man’ the 24 cm high sculpture was carved out from a Chinga meteorite (rich in iron) found near the Mongolian-Russian border that crashed down to the Earth somewhere between 10.000 and 20.000 years ago. The sculpture most likely depicts the god Vaiśravaṇa, the chief of the Four Heavenly Kings, an important figure in Buddhist mythology.

The team analyzed the statue and the geochemistry suggested by the iron, nickel, cobalt, and other trace elements very much matches the Chinga meteorite. The piece that made the ‘Iron man’ is the third biggest known from that fall.

Interestingly enough, the material is extremely hard, and not adequate for sculptures, because it requires a huge effort to carve; this means the artist definitely knew the rock was somehow special and worth the effort. It is still unknown who made the statue and when, but archaeologists believe it was created by the 11th century Ben culture – more exact estimates are impossible at the moment.

The Nazis were probably thrilled by the fact that the statue has a Swastika on it, a symbol they adopted and distorted during World War II.

“While the first debris was officially discovered in 1913 by gold prospectors, we believe that this individual meteorite fragment was collected many centuries before,” said Buchner in a statement. “The Iron Man statue is the only known illustration of a human figure to be carved into a meteorite.”


http://www.zmescience.com/science/archa ... -27092012/
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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 10:32 am » by Cwmman


Ataxites are a class of iron meteorites with a high nickel content .

The 1,000-year-old artefact, stolen from Tibet by Nazi scientists in 1938, is carved from a meteorite

"The statue was chiselled from a fragment of the Chinga meteorite"

can you carved or chisell a iron meteorite ?
what tools would they have used a 1000 years ago ?
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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 11:44 am » by Chillitiger


Cwmman wrote:Ataxites are a class of iron meteorites with a high nickel content .

The 1,000-year-old artefact, stolen from Tibet by Nazi scientists in 1938, is carved from a meteorite

"The statue was chiselled from a fragment of the Chinga meteorite"

can you carved or chisell a iron meteorite ?
what tools would they have used a 1000 years ago ?





My thoughts too. An awesome piece of art.
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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 11:50 am » by Iwanci


Yet again the questioning proves only one thing.. a lack of comprehension as to how it was developed. It does not prove it is an elien artifact, to me it proves that a someone found this piece of meter and developed a way to chisel it.. what I do not know is the 'how'. But I bet I could do some research and figure it out.... where there is a will, there is a way!
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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 1:21 pm » by Edgar 2.0


Cwmman wrote:Ataxites are a class of iron meteorites with a high nickel content .

The 1,000-year-old artefact, stolen from Tibet by Nazi scientists in 1938, is carved from a meteorite

"The statue was chiselled from a fragment of the Chinga meteorite"

can you carved or chisell a iron meteorite ?
what tools would they have used a 1000 years ago ?



This was carved in 2nd century BC :

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So the tools existed.

Can you chisel an iron meteorite is a good point. :flop:

Marble is around 6 on the Mohs scale, Granite about 8.
I don't know for sure, but Google says Ataxites are estimated at 5 - 5-5

So i guess it could've been chiseled relatively easily.

BUT :

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Iron meteorites also differ in hardness and therefore some cut much quicker and easier than others. The most difficult to slice are those with inclusions. The large inclusions in a Canyon Diablo, Nantan or Odessa meteorite make them very hard to cut. This is partly because of the mineral schreibersite which is very hard not to mention the presence of microscopic diamonds that sometimes surround their inclusions.


Then again, Inuit used these sorts of meteorites for centuries...
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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 2:30 pm » by Tjahzi


looks like jesus, lmao.

looks like me too..
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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 2:46 pm » by Cosmine


Of course,the chinise created gunpowder 5000 years ago but ignored steel! :think:


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Ancient steel

Steel was known in antiquity, and may have been produced by managing bloomeries, or iron-smelting facilities, in which the bloom contained carbon.[15]

The earliest known production of steel is a piece of ironware excavated from an archaeological site in Anatolia (Kaman-Kalehoyuk) and is about 4,000 years old.[16] Other ancient steel comes from East Africa, dating back to 1400 BC.[17] In the 4th century BC steel weapons like the Falcata were produced in the Iberian Peninsula, while Noric steel was used by the Roman military.[18] The Chinese of the Warring States (403–221 BC) had quench-hardened steel,[19] while Chinese of the Han Dynasty (202 BC – 220 AD) created steel by melting together wrought iron with cast iron, gaining an ultimate product of a carbon-intermediate steel by the 1st century AD.[20][21] The Haya people of East Africa invented a type of high-heat blast furnace which allowed them to forge carbon steel at 1,802 °C (3,276 °F) nearly 2,000 years ago.[22]

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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 3:17 pm » by Rkobilan


Don't discount the Shang dynasty artifacts or prior. Some are crafted and fitted with meteorites. They fashioned swords with meteorite as the blade with a jade hilt. So it must have been a common practice... At the very least in North, and East Asia.

"Throughout a long period of time, archeological discoveries continuously unearth ancient Chinese weapons, some of them ancient kung fu weapons. Recently, a 2,200 year old metal and jade weapon was unearthed. While jade is considered as a decorative element, forging a weapon of this type has never been within the bounds of imagination of many archeologists, up until now.In many Hollywood films, these Ancient Chinese Weapons and Armor have been featured. Just what is the history of these Kung Fu accessories and how has the art of creating such weapons evolved since then?


As far back as 6,000 years ago, the ancient Chinese fashioned many types of weapons ranging from meteorite metal, iron, bronze, bamboo, wood, stone and jade. Because they were martial arts weapons, some of them were supposed to mimic or simulate the movements of animals and insects, whether real or in myth. Long before Hinduism and Buddhism brought Kung Fu from India, the Chinese had already mastered the art of melee weaponry and combat. The influence of Kung Fu merely improved ancient Chinese fighting styles. In actual fact, weapon fabrication, technique of usage, materials and shape greatly depended on the ruling dynasty or emperor at any period of time. A single dynasty may last for many centuries so weapons of a future dynasty may also have been influenced by a previous one."

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PostFri Sep 28, 2012 4:01 pm » by Bandanko


Nazi Buddha??

can we start saying Buddha stolen by Nazi's please?

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PostTue Oct 30, 2012 9:30 am » by Fatdogmendoza


'Space Buddha' Statue May Be a Fake


A supposed Buddhist statue allegedly carved from a meteorite 1,000 years ago may not be as ancient as suspected, according to a Buddhism expert who argues that the statue may be a 20th-century fake.

The criticisms don't target the material the statue is carved from, which is an iron- and nickel-rich meteorite from the Siberia-Mongolia border. But outside experts are questioning the statue's origins.

Achim Bayer, a Buddhism expert at Dongguk University in South Korea, argues in a new report that the Buddha statue has obvious "pseudo-Tibetan features," marking it as a European reproduction likely made between 1910 and 1970.

Among these features are European-like shoes that come to the ankles rather than boots; trousers instead of robes; tube-shaped sleeves unlike those seen on traditional Tibetan or Mongolian garb; a full beard, which is not seen on Tibetan and Mongolian deity sculptures; an unusual single earring; and a cape that resembles one worn by Romans rather than ancient Tibetan deities.

In their original paper published in the journal Meteoritics & Planetary Science, Stuttgart University researcher Elmar Bucher and colleagues reported that the Buddha statue first came to Germany after a 1938-1939 Tibet expedition by zoologist and ethnologist Ernst Schäfer, who was sent to the region by the Nazi party to find the origin of Aryan language and culture. The statue then passed into the hands of a private owner. [Fallen Stars: A Gallery of Famous Meteorites]

But the researchers also warned that the estimates of the age of the statue — which they pegged around 1,000 years — were preliminary and welcomed comments by cultural scholars.

"I am happy to provide such information," Bayer wrote in his report, available online.

Beyond the origins of the statue, Bayer also called into question the idea that it was brought to Germany by a Nazi expedition in the late 1930s. Isrun Engelhardt, a German historian who has studied these expeditions, told Bayer that the controversial statue likely did not arrive in Germany in Nazi hands.

Bayer suspects the statue was either produced for the antique market or for the Nazi memorabilia market, with the expedition story meant to increase the value of the statue.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/space-buddha-s ... 01489.html



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