Mobile Phones: Tomorrow Will be Too Late!!

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PostTue Feb 24, 2009 11:47 pm » by Towelie


If you think about it, if it was that bad wed all be dead by now, if a few phones could boil an egg what would those people that never get off theres be like. The damage is most likley accumulative, over a course of a few years maybe even decades itll most likley start taking effect.
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PostWed Feb 25, 2009 12:00 am » by Notgeoffrey


theshee wrote:
notgeoffrey wrote:Please read this link, read it all and read it carefully..... It's far too much to post in its entirity on this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_pho ... and_health

The research, from many countries and international organisations is overwhelmingly suggesting that there is NO SCIENTIFICALLY VALID LINK to the alleged symptoms and mobile phone use.


Did you read the link I left??? Dr Henry Lai and Dr N. P. Singh from the University of Washington in Seattle believe the radiation changed brain cell membranes in the rats - and the effects are so severe that it could affect humans, too.

This statement was not uttered by some uneducated anti-technology activist, but rather was written by British physicist Dr. Gerald Hyland and was printed in the prestigious medical journal The Lancet.


Did you read it? All the way to the end? Here's a couple of quotes from that very report....

"DNA damages in cells could have an important implication on health because they are cumulative. Normally, DNA is capable of repairing itself efficiently. Through a homeostatic mechanism, cells maintain a delicate balance between spontaneous and induced DNA damage. DNA damage accumulates if such a balance is altered. Most cells have considerable ability to repair DNA strand breaks; for example, some cells can repair as many as 200,000 breaks in one hour. However, nerve cells have a low capability for DNA repair and DNA breaks could accumulate. Thus, the effect of RFR on DNA could conceivably be more significant on nerve cells than on other cell types of the body. Cumulative damages in DNA may in turn affect cell functions. DNA damage that accumulates in cells over a period of time may be the cause of slow onset diseases, such as cancer."

I've highlighted the relevant words. And this in his own words, from the same paper....

"Therefore, caution should be taken in applying the existing research results to evaluate the possible effect of exposure to RFR during mobile telephone use. It is apparent that not enough research data is available to conclude whether exposure to RFR during the normal use of mobile telephones could lead to any hazardous health effect."

He has NO EVIDENCE of harmful effects on the human being from the use of mobile phones. He says so himself. In his paper he is postulating theory based on possible effects. He goes on to say that this uncertainty means that younger children should avoid the use of mobile phones, which I happen to agree with anyway.

It is not scientifically valid to use a single paper that only postulates an idea to contradict the work of international organisations such as the WHO, and many other scientific works that have so far provided abolutely no evidence of harm.

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PostWed Feb 25, 2009 12:23 am » by Theshee


Yes well, I still stick by what I said. Also for as many links you can find about mobiles being ok there is just as many against the use of them. So its all about personal opinion and choice, as its my choice NOT to use one. If it came out about the dangers about using Mobiles the industry would loose billions. No way would I put myself at risk, Ive been on the receiving end of my ear heating up and headaches off them. I know for a fact that Specialist tell you when you have cancer to avoid them like the plague so something is going on for defo :top:

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PostWed Feb 25, 2009 12:45 am » by Notgeoffrey


theshee wrote:Yes well, I still stick by what I said. Also for as many links you can find about mobiles being ok there is just as many against the use of them. So its all about personal opinion and choice, as its my choice NOT to use one. If it came out about the dangers about using Mobiles the industry would loose billions. No way would I put myself at risk, Ive been on the receiving end of my ear heating up and headaches off them. I know for a fact that Specialist tell you when you have cancer to avoid them like the plague so something is going on for defo :top:


I fully respect your right, and the right of anyone else, to make a choice in this matter. I'm just trying to make the point that the media will pick up on an idea and run with it without fully understanding what is happening.

People still believe that the MMR vaccine can cause autism. Petrol stations still have signs telling you to switch off your mobile phone in case it causes an explosion if it rings. Both of these ideas have been thoroughly debunked now, and yet because it was in the papers it is still thought to be true by many. In the case of the MMR vaccine that thoroughly disgusting piece of media hype (and in my opinion selfish, irresponsible limelight seeking by Andrew Wakefield), the media has caused a lot of unnecessary suffering in unvaccinated children.

People still believe that global warming is caused by carbon dioxide created by us.... well, I suppose the jury is still out on that one, but is strongly suspect it won't be long before that theory too is completely shattered.

We all should be careful before we leap to any conclusions - as I found out when I debunked the idea of chemtrails on this very site, then looked into it properly and felt like a right idiot... :oops: . A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, (I mean that as a general statement rather than aimed at you, by the way! ) and all media reports should be checked out before we decide how to run our lives around them.

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PostWed Feb 25, 2009 1:02 am » by Theshee


I get where your coming from totally :flop: But behind every rummer or hearsay there is some element of truth. All I am saying the money factor in mobile phones is way to big for anyone to speak openly and publicly about the dangers.

On the MMR jab, I know someone personally who's child did get autism off it!!! Maybe it was over hyped, as there is danger in everything. Again, its about choice. And again, totally agree that we can not let the media run us and EVERYTHING must be checked out thoroughly, not just another opinions :flop:

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PostWed Feb 25, 2009 6:13 pm » by Notgeoffrey


theshee wrote:
On the MMR jab, I know someone personally who's child did get autism off it!!! Maybe it was over hyped, as there is danger in everything. Again, its about choice. And again, totally agree that we can not let the media run us and EVERYTHING must be checked out thoroughly, not just another opinions :flop:


I'm sorry that your friend's child has autism, but there is no way it was caused solely by the MMR vaccine. Every study (except the disinfo provided by Wakefield, and some inadequately researched works using his data) has proved this. The child may have been diagnosed following his/her MMR jab, but it is no more than coincidental timing.
The strongest link was the use of a mercury based preservative called thimerosal which was used as a preservative in some vaccines, but has now been banned. The symptoms of progressive mercury poisoning are extraordinarily similar to those of autism, so I suppose if the child had a massive (and I do mean MASSIVE) programme containing many, many vaccinations then there is a possibility of a cause there, but it is not correct for anyone to say that MMR has caused autism. Even in the case of this potential link though, there is still insufficient evidence to say that it is even possible, let alone likely.

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PostWed Feb 25, 2009 6:14 pm » by Notgeoffrey


sheeple wrote:I noticed some side effects in my ear, the one exposed to the mobile, and recently started to use earphones keeping the mobile in my jacket pocket.



It would be interesting to find out if this has any effect, Sheeple. Please let us know.

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