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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 3:25 am » by Slith


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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 4:14 am » by Kayla


What a waste of skin, and the police saying what he did was right :shock:
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 4:29 am » by Rmcampwest


troll2rocks wrote:Hope that guy gets his legs blown off his arms hacked off and is forced to live a begger sucking US cock for pennies.

Sick disgusting waste of humanity.

Poor girl, hope she haunts his dreams

If she can't I would be more than glad to. .308 Style!

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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 5:18 am » by Iamthatiam


ryanm3393 wrote:sounds like fiction to me its probably more propaganda to make us hate the middle east more


Not fiction at all...

Journalistic Propaganda'd be an better description!

To hate something, not just middle easterns, but since these two cultures are too departed ideologically its easier to do so.These hate feeding entities have been spreading this shit everywhere...from all sides to all sides...Its their psychic WEB!

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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 5:42 am » by kentrb


it happened twice in a town of 8 thousand folks here in northern british columbia,canada.
the one i know happened,the other i just learned about.
one killed his daughter over eastern philosophies
one killed his daughter over western philosophies
they both killed thier daughters
two daughters are dead
there seems to be a fundimental problem with philosiphies
clearly philosiphy kills daughters and it uses man to do the dirty work
does anyone know any family philosophies
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 9:22 am » by Fatdogmendoza


garciaface wrote:This has nothing to do with religion, class of people, or even individual family life styles. This has to do with a people completely sick of invasion forces. If Pakistani troops invaded America, or London, as a mercenary force of “debt collectors” for the Chinese, and that invasion lasted ten years, eventually people in America and England would probably kill their own family members, too, if they started bedding down with Pakistani soldiers. Just think about it for a second. We, America and England, are an INVADING HOARD in Iraq. We have no legal right to be there! We never did. And, we have no logistical, beneficial, or intelligent reason to STILL be there. Just imagine yourself in those people’s shoes. He did the right thing. I would, too. This will help the youth of Iraq and Afghanistan realize that America and England are enemies of Iraq and Afghanistan, and will always be.


What you say mate rings of a possible slight truth. however I think that you are pasting over what was obviously a honour killing....I dont think this was the killing of a collaborator, And if it was, what kind of father would do that to his own daughter unless he thought his HONOUR had been compromised...All I can say is that he is a selfish sick fuck. Any regime/ culture or belief system [*and yes I am referring to religion also] that condones that sort of punishment or action is definitely in need of a serious fix.
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 12:50 pm » by Nihilgeist


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You run a complete circle in your first paragraph. On one hand you rage against a culture you imply is barbaric, and then justify barbarism with the other hand.

I pity you for thinking that this is Islam. I pity you for thinking your culture has no blood on it's own hands.


They have no value of human life, no concept of human rights. All they have a concept of is maintaining the "honor" of the 'men' that still live with their mothers and rely on the women to survive, yet keeping them in a completely subservient role as they make the laws and enforce them.

So as humans ourselves, why should we place our value system on their culture when engaging and dealing with them when they don't even value it themselves? It's completely and utterly pointless. Treat them as they treat themselves.

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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 1:45 pm » by Nihilgeist


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:bang; You are one highly conditioned, misinformed, sick individual.

Well done sir. :flop:

This story has:
A - no bearing whatsoever on Islam / religion;
B - no bearing whatsoever on the inhabitants of the countries the US bombed / nuked for oil.

Mental midget


A: Really?

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/03/honor-killing-islams-gruesome-gallery.html

HONOR KILLING: ISLAM'S GRUESOME GALLERY

Another young woman tortured and murdered to add to the gruesome gallery..... The horror of these young girls terror stricken victims, who live in homemade concentration camps is given the imprimatur of the West in its complicit silence - the urbane face of bloodthirsty savagery. The West looks away and more girls lead desperate, brutal lives. The "Feminists" look away and pretend it is outside the realm of women's rights- leftists tools of Islamic jihad.. These useful idiots are on someone's payroll or they fear Islam. Either way, get out of the way. Shame on all of you for failing our women, our children, our girls, our very way of life. How dare they throw our superior culture with both hands.

May Jessica Mokdad: Islamic Honor Killing in MichiganMay 4, 2011

Image20-year-old Woman Dead; Stepfather Charged with Murder: MyFoxDETROIT.com

Honor Killing in Michigan: Rahim Alfetlawi Murders Step-Daughter Jessica Mokdad for Not Following Islam hat tip Answering Muslims

At least there's a good chance of justice in the city of Warren. In Dearborn, police are being sued for covering up honor killings in an act of self enforced sharia and also to preserve the city's reputation.

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Februrary 2011: Honor killing of Täter Harun in Germany. "By about 22 clock he confessed to the horrific bloodbath" with more than 100 stab wounds in the 21 year mother-to-be. The child died as well.

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Harry Potter star, Afshan Azad, badly beaten by her father Abdul Azad, and his son Ashraf attempted honor killing earlier this month because of her relationship with a Hindu man.


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November 2, 'o9: Noor Almaleki is Dead Run over by her Muslim father for being too "westernized", she lingered for days.


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Police in Kingston, Ontario, charged three Montrealers, Mohammed Shafia, his wife Tooba and their 18-year-old son Hamed with a shocking crime. The trio are accused of mass murder, the killing of three of the couple's teenage daughters, including their eldest child, Zainab, 19, (above left, in a photo taken in 2007 in the United Arab Emirates with her friend Zubaida Siddique) and Rona Amir Mohammed, a 50-year-old woman who was Shafia's secret, first wife.

Honor killings on the rise in the West. The media gags itself and throws women under the bus.
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Tulay Goren: Schoolgirl 'was tortured by her father' before she was murdered in Muslim honour killing
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Notice the man's face is protected and the victims of these "honor" murders are always beautiful.

The depraved murder Önder B. und Müjde
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"Canada" Honor Killings of Four Muslim Girls in Canada: "The girls were not allowed to go out alone, for example, neither to the cinema nor to meet friends and they were not able to dress freely"
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Feroz Mangal and Khatera Sadiqi were shot by Khatera's brother as they sat in a parked car at the Elmvale Acres shopping plaza .
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Sisters: Yasmine (right) and Sabrina Larbi-Cherif were allegedly killed by Yasmine's boyfriend Mohammed Ali

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Ayman Udas Poet and Artist

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Gulsen P: GERMANY: HONOR KILLING VICTIM'S FACE "BEATEN BEYOND RECOGNITION"

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UK: Muslim Husband Convicted of Murdering His Abused Wife....... Sabina Akhtar


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Aasiya Hassan had her head chopped off by her "moderate" Muslim husband


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Sahar Daftary UK


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Lidia Motylska, 19, Leeds

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Amina and Sarah, the Said sisters - raped and murdered by their Muslim father - still at large.

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Amina & Sarah Said. "Please don't tell my Father!"


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Sandeela Kanwal, 25, was found dead on her bedroom floor last July. Her father told police he strangled his daughter with a bungee cord because she wanted a divorce.


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Morsal Obeidi (stabbed to death 23 times by her brother - for "turning away from her family").
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 1:49 pm » by Nihilgeist


http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/03/honor-killing-islams-gruesome-gallery.html

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Hatin Surucu Germany Muslim brothers gunned her down for adopting Western ways.

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Banaz Mahmood UK

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Aqsa Parvez Canada -- lies in an unmarked grave despite our relentless ongoing efforts to right that terrible wrong.


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Caneze Riaz, 39, and her four daughters, Sayrah, 16, Sophia, 15, Alicia, 10, and Hannah, 3 UK (Muhammad Riaz killed his wife and four daughters by throwing petrol over them as they slept and igniting it.)


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Sweden


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Uzma Rahan, 32,and sons, Adam 11, and Abbas, eight, and six-year-old daughter, Henna

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10 women beheaded in Iraq

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Samaira Nazir UK


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Hina Salem Italy ("Mohammed Saleem cut his daughter’s throat because she refused an arranged marriage and instead wanted to integrate into Italian society".)

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Methal Dayem, a 22-year-old Cleveland State student, USA.

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Sazan Bajez-Abdullah Germany


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Rudayena Jemael with her son and killer Salim Israel.

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Hesha Yones UK (hacked to death)

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Burned Alive A Victim of the Law of Men Souad


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Ibtihaz Hasoun Israeli Arab


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Fadime Sahindal Sweden


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Zahida Peeveen at 29, before the malicious attack by her husband. At the time of the attempted honor killing, she was six months pregnant.


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Ghazala Khan Denmark


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The killing of Ghazala Khan in Denmark by her brother may be the only instance where an 'honour' killing has been photographed while being perpetrated. This picture was captured on cell phone camera and shows the woman's brother aiming the gun at his sister, lying on the ground. Her fiancee, also seen, was wounded, but survived. The killing was planned by her entire family, and Pakistani taxi drivers were used as spies to spot her and alert her family.


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As a 13-year-old girl in Turkey, Rojda was raped, then forced to marry her
rapist under Islamic law. Her face was mutilated by her "husband's" family
when she refused to prostitute herself after he was imprisoned for raping
another child.


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Dua Khalil, 17 Iraq


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Rim Abu Ghanem 19 (Dr. Suliman Abu Ghanem, a 33-year-old pediatrician at Assaf Harofeh Hospital, who along with his three brothers decided to murder his sister for refusing an arranged marriage) Israel

1/3 of the women murdered in Jordan are a result of Islamic "honor" killing. And yet I could not find one picture of a murdered girl in Jordan.

"It was a brutal scene. One victim's head was nearly cut clean off," an official is quoted as saying. (here)

And the thing is, this is the end - the final act, the culmination of the subjugation, oppression, violent abuse of women in Islam. The terror that precedes the murder is almost unimaginable. Living in fear, every day, living in fear of physical and mental abuse and still, standing up and living their own lives -- only to be murdered for it.

UPDATE:


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Sabia Rani 19 UK (not only did four members of her husband's family do nothing to help her, they turned a blind eye as he continued the beatings and ultimately murdered the helpless young woman at the house they all shared).


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Shafilea Ahmed UK more here

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Teenager 'honour killing' girl made dramatic plea for help before she died

Ramla: Woman killed in front of her children

Israel: Ramla: 18-year-old shot dead

Australia Virgin Murdered in "Honor" Killing

Israel: Clever Enough to Play Dead

Randa Abdel Qader: Stomped, Suffocated, Stabbed, Dad walks free
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Sharia against women:
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 pm » by Nihilgeist


Not found in religions in general, eh?

Honor killing in Christianity:

http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/christian-family-murdered-daughter-for-family-honor-honor-killing-in-christianity/

Faten Habash’s father wept as he assured his daughter there would be no more beatings, no more threats to her life and that she was free to marry the man she loved, even if he was a Muslim. All he asked was that Faten return home.

Hassan Habash even gave his word to an emissary from a Bedouin tribe traditionally brought in to mediate in matters of family honour, a commitment regarded as sacrosanct in Palestinian society. But the next weekend, as Faten watched a Boy Scouts parade from the balcony of her Ramallah home, the 22-year-old Christian Palestinian was dragged into the living room and bludgeoned to death with an iron bar. Her father was arrested for the murder.

“He gave me his word she would not be harmed,” said Ibrahim Abu Dahouq, the Bedouin mediator. “He was crying and begging her to come home. They were even telling me that for their daughter to leave their house as a bride would be an honour for them. We never believed that love would lead to death in this ugly way.”

Two days later, another ritual of killing unfolded a few miles away in Jerusalem.
Maher Shakirat summoned three of his sisters to discuss a family uproar after one of them, Rudaina, was thrown out by her husband for an alleged affair. Maher listened to Rudaina’s denials, and her sisters’ pleas that they were not covering up the affair. Then he forced the three women to drink bleach before strangling Rudaina, who was eight months pregnant. The other sisters tried to flee but Maher caught and strangled Amani, 20. The third, Leila, escaped but was badly injured by the bleach.

Maher, a bus driver in his 30s, is in hiding but his parents were arrested for allegedly ordering the murders and his wife was detained as an accomplice. As he was taken into custody, Rudaina’s father, Amin, was asked why his daughters were killed. “Because they dishonoured the family,” he said. “A married woman who goes with another man isn’t good.”
The murders of Faten Habash and the Shakirat sisters last month were the latest in a series of brutal “honour killings” that have shaken the Palestinian community over recent weeks.

The deaths have prompted demands for a change to laws inherited from the days of Jordanian rule that deem all women to be “minors” under the authority of male relatives and that provide a maximum of six months in prison for killings in defence of “family honour.”
But those calls have met with resistance in parliament where religious Palestinian MPs argue that reform will lead to a collapse in the moral fabric of society. According to the Palestinian women’s affairs ministry, 20 girls and women were murdered in honour killings last year and about 50 committed suicide – often under coercion – for “shaming” the family through sex outside marriage, refusing an arranged marriage or seeking a divorce. Another 15 women survived attempts to kill them.

The ministry says that dozens of other killings are covered up each year. “We had one woman of 26 who was certified as dying of old age,” said Maha Abu Dayyeh Shamas, director of the Women’s Centre for Legal Aid and Counselling. “Putting ‘falling into well’ on the death certificate is very common. We find that the women were strangled and then dumped in the well.”

Faten Habash’s murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan.

Faten’s father enlisted the family priest to stop his daughter on the grounds that, even though she was 22, all women are legally regarded as minors under the authority of their male relatives. The Palestinian authorities returned Faten to her home where she was beaten and her pelvis broken as she was either thrown from a window or jumped trying to escape. She spent six weeks in hospital. She sought protection under an ancient Bedouin formula for resolving disputes, known as Tanebeh. Abu Dahouq, a lawyer for the Dawakuk tribe, negotiated with the Habash family.

Mr Dahouq said: “Faten believed she had received a guarantee of security.” Two days later she was murdered. “This family had no honour, no manners, no ethics,” he said. “And the girl was as honourable as could be. All she wanted to do was marry this man she loved. I think the people in her church also have responsibility for this killing. They told this family that their daughter brought shame, so that makes them part of the crime.”

The family priest, Father Ibrahim Hijazin, declined to talk about Faten’s killing other than to say he called the Palestinian authorities to prevent her from reaching Jordan. But he says other families would have reacted as hers did. “There is no interfaith marriage among Arabs. Catholics here are Christian by faith and Muslim by culture, and in this community it is forbidden for Christians to marry Muslims. It’s not good. It’s a tribal mentality. I don’t accept it, but it is the culture,” he said.

After Faten’s murder, several hundred Palestinian women held a vigil in Ramallah to demand an end to honour killings.

The Palestinian women’s affairs minister, Zuhaira Kamal, called for a change to the law to allow women over 18 to marry without the consent of a male relative and reform of the old Jordanian legislation that frees the killers after a few months. But MPs have resisted the move.

“They’re very traditional there,” said Mrs Abu Dayyeh Shamas. “They say these are our traditions, that a man who is in a moment of anger is driven to do these things. It gives a message to the community that you can kill without punishment. We have a lot of complaints from women that their husbands are having affairs. We ask these MPs if they think these women should be allowed to kill their husbands. They can’t answer that question.”

Although honour killings have a long history in Palestinian society, women’s rights groups say the rise in these murders cannot be separated from the resurgent violence of the past four years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “Things are breaking down because of the changing relationship between men and women. Increased numbers of women are the main source of income while her husband sits around. That is the kiss of death for that family,” said Mrs Abu Dayyeh Shamas.

“Men feel they have lost their dignity and that they can somehow restore it by upholding the family’s honour. We’ve noticed recent cases are much more violent in nature; attempts to kill, rape, incest. There is an incredible amount of incest.”

Case 2 : Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud murdered her daughter, Rafayda, because she became pregnant after being raped by two of her brothers.

“My daughter fell over and broke her knee. I took her to hospital and there the doctor told me she was pregnant. So I killed her. It’s as simple as that,” said Mrs Qaoud on her doorstep in Ramallah. Mrs Qaoud waited until the baby was born and given up for adoption. Then she presented her 22 year-old daughter with a razor blade and told her to slash her wrists.
She refused so her mother pulled a plastic bag over her head, sliced her wrists and beat her head with a stick. The brothers were sentenced to 10 years for the rape. Mrs Qaoud spent two years in prison for killing her daughter. She has purged her home of all pictures of her older children, and declines to discuss the killing, saying all she wants is to forget about it.
The repercussions of Faten Habash’s murder are still being felt; the man she loved is in protective custody after threats from the Habash family.

The Bedouin mediator says the Habashes have dishonoured his tribe by breaching the pledge that Faten would not be harmed. “The crime is not against the girl, the crime is against our family,” said Mr Abu Dahouq. “Since they have broken their word, we have the right to retaliate. There will be a reaction for betraying their religion and betraying us.”



B: Please enlighten me on how this doesn't reflect on the mainstay of a culture that allows such things to happen and it's own law enforcement personnel secretly agree with what has occurred because they hide behind the "human rights and laws" they're supposed to be enforcing; when they clearly believe otherwise, that was brought upon them by a more civilized culture? This has EVERYTHING to do with countries that "we have bombed/nuked" in your words. This has everything to do with the type of people and the culture they live in that come from these countries to our own shores.

You know what? Fuck it, I don't need a ridiculous "explanation" from you. I have all the evidence I need right here, considering the majority of those cases above were Muslims in the Western world.

But keep drinking your kool-aid Phaeton. You're a sad little pathetic denier of the reality around you.
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