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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 1:55 pm » by Nihilgeist


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garciaface wrote:This has nothing to do with religion, class of people, or even individual family life styles. This has to do with a people completely sick of invasion forces. If Pakistani troops invaded America, or London, as a mercenary force of “debt collectors” for the Chinese, and that invasion lasted ten years, eventually people in America and England would probably kill their own family members, too, if they started bedding down with Pakistani soldiers. Just think about it for a second. We, America and England, are an INVADING HOARD in Iraq. We have no legal right to be there! We never did. And, we have no logistical, beneficial, or intelligent reason to STILL be there. Just imagine yourself in those people’s shoes. He did the right thing. I would, too. This will help the youth of Iraq and Afghanistan realize that America and England are enemies of Iraq and Afghanistan, and will always be.



Now I know why I put this dumbass on ignore. Jesus you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/alleyes/2009/11/terrorism-thats-personal.html
We typically think of terrorism as a political act.

But sometimes it’s very personal. It wasn’t a government or a guerrilla insurgency that threw acid on this woman’s face in Pakistan. It was a young man whom she had rejected for marriage. As the United States ponders what to do in Afghanistan — and for that matter, in Pakistan — it is wise to understand both the political and the personal, that the very ignorance and illiteracy and misogyny that create the climate for these acid attacks can and does bleed over into the political realm. Nicholas Kristof, the New York Times op-ed columnist who traveled to Pakistan last year to write about acid attacks, put it this way in an essay at the time: “I’ve been investigating such acid attacks, which are commonly used to terrorize and subjugate women and girls in a swath of Asia from Afghanistan through Cambodia (men are almost never attacked with acid). Because women usually don’t matter in this part of the world, their attackers are rarely prosecuted and acid sales are usually not controlled. It’s a kind of terrorism that becomes accepted as part of the background noise in the region. ...

“Bangladesh has imposed controls on acid sales to curb such attacks, but otherwise it is fairly easy in Asia to walk into a shop and buy sulfuric or hydrochloric acid suitable for destroying a human face. Acid attacks and wife burnings are common in parts of Asia because the victims are the most voiceless in these societies: They are poor and female. The first step is simply for the world to take note, to give voice to these women.” Since 1994, a Pakistani activist who founded the Progressive Women’s Association to help such women “has documented 7,800 cases of women who were deliberately burned, scalded or subjected to acid attacks, just in the Islamabad area. In only 2 percent of those cases was anyone convicted.”

The geopolitical question is already hard enough: Should the United States commit more troops to Afghanistan and for what specific purpose? As American policymakers mull the options, here is a frame of reference that puts the tough choices in even starker relief: Are acid attacks a sign of just how little the United States can do to solve intractable problems there — therefore, we should pull out? Or having declared war on terrorism, must the United States stay out of moral duty, to try to protect women such as these — and the schoolgirls whom the Taliban in Afghanistan sprayed with acid simply for going to class — who have suffered a very personal terrorist attack? We offer links to smart essays that come to differing conclusions.

• In August, Perspective published a New York Times Magazine piece that followed up the story of Afghan sisters Shamsia and Atifa Husseini, who were attacked with acid simply for attending school. If you wish to refresh your memory, you may read the original article.
• Two very smart, informed observers come to opposite conclusions on the proper U.S. course of action in Afghanistan:

1. In his “Think Tank” blog at NewYorker.com, Steve Coll argues why we can’t leave — “What If We Fail In Afghanistan?” Read the essay in full.

2. In an essay entitled “The War We Can’t Win” in Commonweal (also reprinted in the November issue of Harper’s), Andrew J. Bacevich makes the case that we are overstating the importance of Afghanistan to U.S. interests. Bacevich is a professor of International Relations at Boston University and the author, most recently, of The Limits of Power. A retired Army lieutenant colonel, he served from 1969 to 1992, in Vietnam and the first Persian Gulf War. He was a conservative critic of the Iraq war. Several of his essays have run before in Perspective. Read his essay in full.

• Read the original story about acid attacks by Nicholas Kristof.

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Irum Saeed, 30, poses for a photograph at her office at the Urdu University of Islamabad, Pakistan, Thursday, July 24, 2008. Irum was burned on her face, back and shoulders twelve years ago when a boy whom she rejected for marriage threw acid on her in the middle of the street. She has undergone plastic surgery 25 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Shameem Akhter, 18, poses for a photograph at her home in Jhang, Pakistan, Wednesday, July 10, 2008. Shameem was raped by three boys who then threw acid on her three years ago. Shameem has undergone plastic surgery 10 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Najaf Sultana, 16, poses for a photograph at her home in Lahore, Pakistan on Wednesday, July 9, 2008. At the age of five Najaf was burned by her father while she was sleeping, apparently because he didn't want to have another girl in the family. As a result of the burning Najaf became blind and after being abandoned by both her parents she now lives with relatives. She has undergone plastic surgery around 15 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Shehnaz Usman, 36, poses for a photograph in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008. Shehnaz was burned with acid by a relative due to a familial dispute five years ago. Shehnaz has undergone plastic surgery 10 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Shahnaz Bibi, 35, poses for a photograph in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008. Ten years ago Shahnaz was burned with acid by a relative due to a familial dispute. She has never undergone plastic surgery.

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Kanwal Kayum, 26, adjusts her veil as she poses for a photograph in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008. Kanwal was burned with acid one year ago by a boy whom she rejected for marriage. She has never undergone plastic surgery.

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Munira Asef, 23, poses for a photograph in Lahore, Pakistan, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008. Munira was burned with acid five years ago by a boy whom she rejected for marriage. She has undergone plastic surgery 7 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Bushra Shari, 39, adjusts her veil as she poses for a photograph in Lahore, Pakistan, Friday, July. 11, 2008. Bushra was burned with acid thrown by her husband five years ago because she was trying to divorce him. She has undergone plastic surgery 25 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Memuna Khan, 21, poses for a photograph in Karachi, Pakistan, Friday, Dec. 19, 2008. Menuna was burned by a group of boys who threw acid on her to settle a dispute between their family and Menuna's. She has undergone plastic surgery 21 times to try to recover from her scars.

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Zainab Bibi, 17, adjusts her veil as she poses for a photograph in Islamabad, Pakistan, Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2008. Zainab was burned on her face with acid thrown by a boy whom she rejected for marriage five years ago. She has undergone plastic surgery several times to try to recover from her scars.

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Naila Farhat, 19, poses for a photograph in Islamabad, Pakistan, Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2008. Naila was burned on her face with acid thrown by a boy whom she rejected for marriage five years ago. She has undergone plastic surgery several times to try to recover from her scars.

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Saira Liaqat, 26, poses for the camera as she holds a portrait of herself before being burned, at her home in Lahore, Pakistan, Wednesday, July 9, 2008. When she was fifteen, Saira was married to a relative who would later attack her with acid after insistently demanding her to live with him, although the families had agreed she wouldn't join him until she finished school. Saira has undergone plastic surgery 9 times to try to recover from her scars.

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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 2:14 pm » by Fatdogmendoza


nihilgeist wrote:Not found in religions in general, eh?

Honor killing in Christianity:

http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/christian-family-murdered-daughter-for-family-honor-honor-killing-in-christianity/

Faten Habash’s father wept as he assured his daughter there would be no more beatings, no more threats to her life and that she was free to marry the man she loved, even if he was a Muslim. All he asked was that Faten return home.

Hassan Habash even gave his word to an emissary from a Bedouin tribe traditionally brought in to mediate in matters of family honour, a commitment regarded as sacrosanct in Palestinian society. But the next weekend, as Faten watched a Boy Scouts parade from the balcony of her Ramallah home, the 22-year-old Christian Palestinian was dragged into the living room and bludgeoned to death with an iron bar. Her father was arrested for the murder.

“He gave me his word she would not be harmed,” said Ibrahim Abu Dahouq, the Bedouin mediator. “He was crying and begging her to come home. They were even telling me that for their daughter to leave their house as a bride would be an honour for them. We never believed that love would lead to death in this ugly way.”

Two days later, another ritual of killing unfolded a few miles away in Jerusalem.
Maher Shakirat summoned three of his sisters to discuss a family uproar after one of them, Rudaina, was thrown out by her husband for an alleged affair. Maher listened to Rudaina’s denials, and her sisters’ pleas that they were not covering up the affair. Then he forced the three women to drink bleach before strangling Rudaina, who was eight months pregnant. The other sisters tried to flee but Maher caught and strangled Amani, 20. The third, Leila, escaped but was badly injured by the bleach.

Maher, a bus driver in his 30s, is in hiding but his parents were arrested for allegedly ordering the murders and his wife was detained as an accomplice. As he was taken into custody, Rudaina’s father, Amin, was asked why his daughters were killed. “Because they dishonoured the family,” he said. “A married woman who goes with another man isn’t good.”
The murders of Faten Habash and the Shakirat sisters last month were the latest in a series of brutal “honour killings” that have shaken the Palestinian community over recent weeks.

The deaths have prompted demands for a change to laws inherited from the days of Jordanian rule that deem all women to be “minors” under the authority of male relatives and that provide a maximum of six months in prison for killings in defence of “family honour.”
But those calls have met with resistance in parliament where religious Palestinian MPs argue that reform will lead to a collapse in the moral fabric of society. According to the Palestinian women’s affairs ministry, 20 girls and women were murdered in honour killings last year and about 50 committed suicide – often under coercion – for “shaming” the family through sex outside marriage, refusing an arranged marriage or seeking a divorce. Another 15 women survived attempts to kill them.

The ministry says that dozens of other killings are covered up each year. “We had one woman of 26 who was certified as dying of old age,” said Maha Abu Dayyeh Shamas, director of the Women’s Centre for Legal Aid and Counselling. “Putting ‘falling into well’ on the death certificate is very common. We find that the women were strangled and then dumped in the well.”

Faten Habash’s murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan.

Faten’s father enlisted the family priest to stop his daughter on the grounds that, even though she was 22, all women are legally regarded as minors under the authority of their male relatives. The Palestinian authorities returned Faten to her home where she was beaten and her pelvis broken as she was either thrown from a window or jumped trying to escape. She spent six weeks in hospital. She sought protection under an ancient Bedouin formula for resolving disputes, known as Tanebeh. Abu Dahouq, a lawyer for the Dawakuk tribe, negotiated with the Habash family.

Mr Dahouq said: “Faten believed she had received a guarantee of security.” Two days later she was murdered. “This family had no honour, no manners, no ethics,” he said. “And the girl was as honourable as could be. All she wanted to do was marry this man she loved. I think the people in her church also have responsibility for this killing. They told this family that their daughter brought shame, so that makes them part of the crime.”

The family priest, Father Ibrahim Hijazin, declined to talk about Faten’s killing other than to say he called the Palestinian authorities to prevent her from reaching Jordan. But he says other families would have reacted as hers did. “There is no interfaith marriage among Arabs. Catholics here are Christian by faith and Muslim by culture, and in this community it is forbidden for Christians to marry Muslims. It’s not good. It’s a tribal mentality. I don’t accept it, but it is the culture,” he said.

After Faten’s murder, several hundred Palestinian women held a vigil in Ramallah to demand an end to honour killings.

The Palestinian women’s affairs minister, Zuhaira Kamal, called for a change to the law to allow women over 18 to marry without the consent of a male relative and reform of the old Jordanian legislation that frees the killers after a few months. But MPs have resisted the move.

“They’re very traditional there,” said Mrs Abu Dayyeh Shamas. “They say these are our traditions, that a man who is in a moment of anger is driven to do these things. It gives a message to the community that you can kill without punishment. We have a lot of complaints from women that their husbands are having affairs. We ask these MPs if they think these women should be allowed to kill their husbands. They can’t answer that question.”

Although honour killings have a long history in Palestinian society, women’s rights groups say the rise in these murders cannot be separated from the resurgent violence of the past four years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “Things are breaking down because of the changing relationship between men and women. Increased numbers of women are the main source of income while her husband sits around. That is the kiss of death for that family,” said Mrs Abu Dayyeh Shamas.

“Men feel they have lost their dignity and that they can somehow restore it by upholding the family’s honour. We’ve noticed recent cases are much more violent in nature; attempts to kill, rape, incest. There is an incredible amount of incest.”

Case 2 : Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud murdered her daughter, Rafayda, because she became pregnant after being raped by two of her brothers.

“My daughter fell over and broke her knee. I took her to hospital and there the doctor told me she was pregnant. So I killed her. It’s as simple as that,” said Mrs Qaoud on her doorstep in Ramallah. Mrs Qaoud waited until the baby was born and given up for adoption. Then she presented her 22 year-old daughter with a razor blade and told her to slash her wrists.
She refused so her mother pulled a plastic bag over her head, sliced her wrists and beat her head with a stick. The brothers were sentenced to 10 years for the rape. Mrs Qaoud spent two years in prison for killing her daughter. She has purged her home of all pictures of her older children, and declines to discuss the killing, saying all she wants is to forget about it.
The repercussions of Faten Habash’s murder are still being felt; the man she loved is in protective custody after threats from the Habash family.

The Bedouin mediator says the Habashes have dishonoured his tribe by breaching the pledge that Faten would not be harmed. “The crime is not against the girl, the crime is against our family,” said Mr Abu Dahouq. “Since they have broken their word, we have the right to retaliate. There will be a reaction for betraying their religion and betraying us.”



B: Please enlighten me on how this doesn't reflect on the mainstay of a culture that allows such things to happen and it's own law enforcement personnel secretly agree with what has occurred because they hide behind the "human rights and laws" they're supposed to be enforcing; when they clearly believe otherwise, that was brought upon them by a more civilized culture? This has EVERYTHING to do with countries that "we have bombed/nuked" in your words. This has everything to do with the type of people and the culture they live in that come from these countries to our own shores.

You know what? Fuck it, I don't need a ridiculous "explanation" from you. I have all the evidence I need right here, considering the majority of those cases above were Muslims in the Western world.

But keep drinking your kool-aid Phaeton. You're a sad little pathetic denier of the reality around you.


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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 6:55 pm » by Iamthatiam


Nihilgeist, Du hast mich fast weinen hier Bruder !! :(

Apparently these cultures have trouble accepting the feminine aspect of their own societies, and thats something too arraigated through centuries of culturally formated fear regarding the universal Yin aspect, which were once adopted by the whole world, being slowly overcome by our western societies...They had been kept stuck into this shit by superstitious ignorance, as if they were still living on the middle ages!

Its amazingly stupid how superstition were propagated through centuries depriving humanity of its connection with this one universal aspect so important to the maintenance of the collective balance and its healthier dynamics...And to see the forms adopted by each ideological reality....

Everything, from the witch hunting 'till these shit we are discussing here has its roots inside the same fear, being this last shown just another barbaric justification to destroy something demonized by the fear/hate feeding axis which had taken over this planet long ago, and these stupid sheeple arent able of seeing this crap, keeping their beliefs and their cultural structures inside this ignorant cycle apparently forever...

Frecking disgusting....

They once feared the beauty and power of the feminine for manipulative strategic reasons, now the present civilization must understand and sublimate this in an balanced manner otherwise we will have its diametrically opposed reactions, where the positive masculine aspects of the Yang will be suppressed by the negative aspects of the Yin.....More troubled times in a different manner...

We must help these people to wake up as quicker as possible about this specific reality stated here
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 7:06 pm » by Glassjaw667


Honor killings are not that uncommon in strict Islamic nations. Hell just go to Liveleak.com and search 'honor killings'.

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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 7:16 pm » by Phaeton


nihilgeist wrote:http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/03/honor-killing-islams-gruesome-gallery.html

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Hatin Surucu Germany Muslim brothers gunned her down for adopting Western ways.

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Banaz Mahmood UK

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Aqsa Parvez Canada -- lies in an unmarked grave despite our relentless ongoing efforts to right that terrible wrong.


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Caneze Riaz, 39, and her four daughters, Sayrah, 16, Sophia, 15, Alicia, 10, and Hannah, 3 UK (Muhammad Riaz killed his wife and four daughters by throwing petrol over them as they slept and igniting it.)


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Uzma Rahan, 32,and sons, Adam 11, and Abbas, eight, and six-year-old daughter, Henna

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10 women beheaded in Iraq

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Samaira Nazir UK


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Hina Salem Italy ("Mohammed Saleem cut his daughter’s throat because she refused an arranged marriage and instead wanted to integrate into Italian society".)

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Methal Dayem, a 22-year-old Cleveland State student, USA.

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Sazan Bajez-Abdullah Germany


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Rudayena Jemael with her son and killer Salim Israel.

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Hesha Yones UK (hacked to death)

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Burned Alive A Victim of the Law of Men Souad


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Ibtihaz Hasoun Israeli Arab


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Fadime Sahindal Sweden


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Zahida Peeveen at 29, before the malicious attack by her husband. At the time of the attempted honor killing, she was six months pregnant.


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Ghazala Khan Denmark


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The killing of Ghazala Khan in Denmark by her brother may be the only instance where an 'honour' killing has been photographed while being perpetrated. This picture was captured on cell phone camera and shows the woman's brother aiming the gun at his sister, lying on the ground. Her fiancee, also seen, was wounded, but survived. The killing was planned by her entire family, and Pakistani taxi drivers were used as spies to spot her and alert her family.


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As a 13-year-old girl in Turkey, Rojda was raped, then forced to marry her
rapist under Islamic law. Her face was mutilated by her "husband's" family
when she refused to prostitute herself after he was imprisoned for raping
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Dua Khalil, 17 Iraq


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Rim Abu Ghanem 19 (Dr. Suliman Abu Ghanem, a 33-year-old pediatrician at Assaf Harofeh Hospital, who along with his three brothers decided to murder his sister for refusing an arranged marriage) Israel

1/3 of the women murdered in Jordan are a result of Islamic "honor" killing. And yet I could not find one picture of a murdered girl in Jordan.

"It was a brutal scene. One victim's head was nearly cut clean off," an official is quoted as saying. (here)

And the thing is, this is the end - the final act, the culmination of the subjugation, oppression, violent abuse of women in Islam. The terror that precedes the murder is almost unimaginable. Living in fear, every day, living in fear of physical and mental abuse and still, standing up and living their own lives -- only to be murdered for it.

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Sabia Rani 19 UK (not only did four members of her husband's family do nothing to help her, they turned a blind eye as he continued the beatings and ultimately murdered the helpless young woman at the house they all shared).


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Shafilea Ahmed UK more here

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Teenager 'honour killing' girl made dramatic plea for help before she died

Ramla: Woman killed in front of her children

Israel: Ramla: 18-year-old shot dead

Australia Virgin Murdered in "Honor" Killing

Israel: Clever Enough to Play Dead

Randa Abdel Qader: Stomped, Suffocated, Stabbed, Dad walks free
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Sharia against women:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0120a6c9c03f970b-500wi



A: Yes, really. Linking to some Atlas Shrugged propaganda site does not change one iota of my statement.. The fact some cultures that mainly 'adhere' to Islam, or say they are 'Muslims', do this kind of crazy acts - does not mean it is Islamic. At all.


Within the Qur'an there is no mentioning of anything that allows for or justifies honor killings. The first and most basic right in the Qur'an that every Muslim is expected to follow is, in fact, the right to life. As written in the Qur'an,

That if anyone slays a human being – unless it be [in punishment] for murder or for spreading corruption on earth – it shall be as though he had slain all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. (5:32) .

It is thus believed that it is not Islam as a religion, but 'Islamic culture', and the prominent and long- standing view that women are considered property, as the sources of for honor killings.

As noted by Christian Arab writer, Norma Khouri, honor killings originate from the belief that a woman’s chastity is the property of her families, a cultural norm that dates back to 1200 B.C , under the rule of Hammarabi and other Assyrian tribes.

Matthew Goldstein has also noted that honor killings were encouraged in ancient Rome, where male family members who did not take actions against the female adulterers in their family were "actively persecuted".

Lavinia – a historical figure of Rome found in Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus – is killed by her father after having been raped and mutilated. In ancient Rome, being raped was seen as dishonorable to the point of destroying a woman's life and reputation, and honor killing was supposed to be a "merciful" act.


So before promoting another bullshit propaganda piece, check your sh* before posting.
Especially if your post condemns and criminalises a whole religious congregation.

You really have no notion of the obvious fact we are being played out against eachother do you. Happily playing along with this conditioning ploy so very prevalent throughout the Western hemisphere. "Theyre all terrorists, 'bloodthirsty savages'.. hellbent on destroying the West because they envy our Freedom".

Jesus H Christ.

Eyes wide effing SHUT.

Goodnight nurse.. :sleep:

My apologies, but this kind of uneducated, ignorant hatefull bs pisses me off.
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 7:23 pm » by Kinninigan


Really cant say too much here, as we just had a judge "walk free" for beating his disabled daughter here in the states.

Maybe is muslums learned how to be "better lovers" their daughters would not wanna date "white men". Maybe sexy muslums girls wanna trade in their burkas and korans for lipstick and highheels, and stop living in countries that will stone them to death, beat them, and date men who will probley never give them an orgasm.
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 7:24 pm » by Phaeton


Now I know why I put this dumbass on ignore. Jesus you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.


lmfao. Thats just wonderful.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." —Albert Einstein

Condemning a whole religious congregation based on faulty, tendentious info / propaganda, then proceeds to call someone who tries to point some facts out as the one who has no clue what he is talking about.

Can it get anymore retarded?

You should see Idiocracy. Youll feel right at home.
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PostMon Nov 07, 2011 7:37 pm » by Phaeton


B: Please enlighten me on how this doesn't reflect on the mainstay of a culture that allows such things to happen and it's own law enforcement personnel secretly agree with what has occurred because they hide behind the "human rights and laws" they're supposed to be enforcing; when they clearly believe otherwise, that was brought upon them by a more civilized culture? This has EVERYTHING to do with countries that "we have bombed/nuked" in your words. This has everything to do with the type of people and the culture they live in that come from these countries to our own shores.

You know what? Fuck it, I don't need a ridiculous "explanation" from you. I have all the evidence I need right here, considering the majority of those cases above were Muslims in the Western world.

But keep drinking your kool-aid Phaeton. You're a sad little pathetic denier of the reality around you.


Hypocrite. So what, Im supposed to conclude the American culture / people are to be scoffed because they 'let their country make a wasteland of countless nations in their lust for oil and werent able to stop it'? The West is so very apt in pointing out the 'faults' and 'primitive nature' of the rest of the world. Tell you what dreamer, the West has a helluvalot more demons to deal with than the countries they love to point their finger at.

Indeed. You have all the evidence right there, via your oh so objective and insightful links. You wouldnt know reality if it stared you right in the face mr. sleepwalker.

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Sleep on hater. :flop:
Youre the wet dream of every Western government.

People like you scare the hell out of me you know that? People like you is why the ones who play us like a chessgame can do what they do. Ignorant, easily manipulated, hateful / fearful people like you.
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PostTue Nov 08, 2011 2:43 am » by Newssniffer


troll2rocks wrote:
newssniffer wrote:
troll2rocks wrote:Hope that guy gets his legs blown off his arms hacked off and is forced to live a begger sucking US cock for pennies.

Sick disgusting waste of humanity.

Poor girl, hope she haunts his dreams


Says the guy who exemplifies some type of real of fictional mass murderer in every avatar they have used since their miserable existence on this site.

So yeah, we choose you to be the judge.



Lol when you reach 50 posts we will talk, until then, you are not even considered!!! :love: :love: :love: :love:

PS I was not aware that the Predator and IT the bloody clown were mass murderers, I was under the impression that they were fictional characters ??? I could be wrong I mean maybe they came to life and went on a real life killing spree, but the odds are against it :cheers: However I can speak for Kerrblurr, he may well be a mass murderer


Haha... I've been here for long enough to watch Trolls like you drive good people like Hesop from this forum. Remember, post counts are only skin deep.

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PostTue Nov 08, 2011 2:50 am » by Slamgunshark


troll2rocks wrote:Hope that guy gets his legs blown off his arms hacked off and is forced to live a begger sucking US cock for pennies.

Sick disgusting waste of humanity.

Poor girl, hope she haunts his dreams



Word dude!

Word! I agree!
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