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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 6:35 am » by Opalserpent


handy4321 wrote:I will go ahead and say what many here think but will not say. You make it so blatantly obvious that you are directly or indirectly employed by and alphabet agency. The gig is up agent, crawl back into a dark corner with your masters. :lol: :peep:

Sorry people and DiscloseTV, I just could not take it any longer!



Not all the mods here are zio's Handy man.

To be sure there have been some sayanim hasbara here over the past
couple years but we call them out pretty quickly.

Some posters will always repost mainstream western pro war zionist articles
and others of more righteous non zionist posters will post from
RT and rense and alternative sources that are not mainsteam
and completely fabricated to serve agenda's of the few.


Hey check out this completely unrelated article from activist post.

These are good signs the Elites behind these wars of regime change and central bank installation
are starting to get scared.



http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/10- ... ntrol.html



Video's referred to in the article are in the above link with the below information.
Some excellent video's are posted as evidence of our changing times.

Most people by now know that the "Rebellion" in Syria is a U.S. Saudi and israel backed
attempt to overthrow the Assad government and install puppets friendly to U.S. interests.
Please tell me I'm wrong and Tell General Wesley Clark that he was wrong
when he said the U.S. was going to invade 7 countries with no real reason.
Whether we like it or not Syria will be invaded and Iran and Lebanon as General
Wesley Clark said which is going to destabilize the region and probably lead
to WW3.

Also if these non allied nations begin to sell oil in anything other then U.S. dollars as a
reserve currency then america is basically fcuked.


10 Signs The Global Elite Are Losing Control
Eric Blair
Activist Post


Karma is coming for the elite in a big way. As the Powers That Be head toward a devastating defeat in their war plans for Syria, signs are emerging that their rule over humanity is rapidly diminishing.

Over the last decade the global elite have been on a mad dash to consolidate power over the world. It's always been their plan like some evil villain in a comic book, but after 9/11 the plan went into overdrive and then turbo charged during the financial crisis of 2008.

Yet it's doomed to fail because humans are meant to be guided by their own free will, not controlled like livestock. The more the elite try to control humanity, the more entropy occurs. Entropy, for those who don't know, is the lack of order or predictability; a gradual decline into disorder.

Although the elite still enjoy a huge wealth advantage over the masses, they are now resigned to behaving like tyrants to maintain control. This, in turn, exposes their dark side which has been cleverly concealed for ages. Not anymore.

People are waking up in droves, at least as fast as the elite can build their full-spectrum prison matrix. Let them try. To paraphrase Victor Hugo, "No army can stop an idea whose time has come."


Here are ten signs that the elite are losing control over the people:

1. Official lies no longer effective: The lies they tell simply don't work anymore. There was a time when official lies, especially about war and peace, were believed. Because, after all, how evil would it be to lie about such things? Generally people want to believe they are being told the truth when life and death is at stake. The boy who cried wolf has cried one too many times. Even if they told the truth at this point, very few would believe them.


2. No confidence in politics: US politicians have a paltry approval rating. The trust in government is at all-time lows here and around the world. Mainstream polls show only 10% of the public has confidence in Congress. In other words, 90% don't believe in them to be competent to govern.

Watch this Town Hall exchange below where a man threatens US Senator John McCain with arrest for treason to his face. This would have never happened just a year or two ago:



3. No confidence in media: The most recent polls show that 77% of the population no longer trusts corporate TV news. Is it any wonder why the establishment media failed to sell the lies about the alleged Syria chemical event? With all their monopoly might over the airwaves, they can no longer claim that black is white simply because officialdom says so.

4. Bankers rejected: Hungary recently became the first country to follow Iceland's lead by shedding international bankers (IMF) and is considering pursuing prosecution of past prime ministers who enslaved the people with debt.



Look for this trend to continue even if nations decide to default to break free.

5. Vatican abruptly cleaning up its act: Under the previous Pope, Pope Benedict, scandals erupted from the Vatican ranging from covering up pedophile priests to money laundering and fraud. Benedict, in an unprecedented move, abruptly retired to make way for a seemingly much more likable Pope Francis. Pope Francis by all measures is working furiously to reclaim the church's peaceful and humble reputation. Whether this is genuine or a PR move, it's telling that the church was forced into such a drastic turnaround to save itself from losing all credibility.

6. Mutiny among soldiers: Finally. Soldiers, who are outlawed from making political statements, are steadily speaking out against US military adventurism. As Einstein famously said "The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service."

7. Militarized police state: One of the darkest signs that the elite are losing their grip on power is the construction of the militarized police state specifically trained to combat domestic civil unrest. Local cops with tanks and other combat gear are working with Feds at Fusion centers, active Army units are on American soil for the first time in history, the NSA spy grid is being used by the IRS and DEA, and the elimination of due process for Americans under the NDAA are just some of the tyrannical moves made to secure the elite criminals from public backlash. They're clearly scared, and they should be given what they've done to the American people and the Constitution.



8. Serious secession movements everywhere: A state seceding from a larger political entity used to be an ultra-fringe concept, until now. In America, secession movements are winning over the public in parts of Colorado and California. In Europe, serious secession movements are happening in Spain and Scotland, as well as several EU nations flirting with the idea of dropping out of the euro. Decentralization = Entropy!

9. GMO food being rejected everywhere: Control the food and you control the people. True in theory, but much more difficult in practice. GMO leaders like Monsanto are being exposed. All of their economic and political strength cannot defeat the spread of knowledge about the dangers of pesticide-soaked Frankenfoods. GMO fields are being burned in protest in America and around the world, informed nations continue to reject their products, and labeling laws are gaining traction.

10. Cannabis liberation: Many reading this will think marijuana legalization is a superficial development. However, it is a major signpost that the elite's grip is fading. Enormous resources have been spent to keep cannabis illegal. Cannabis has been a powerful medicine for physical, mental, and spiritual health throughout the ages. This single plant represents a huge threat to the power structures and their industries, hence its seemingly senseless illegality. The approaching global reversal of the tyrannical policy of prohibition is the first of many concessions to come.


Read more from Eric Blair Here

http://www.activistpost.com/search/label/Eric%20Blair


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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 7:02 am » by *WillEase*


Obviously there are many anti-American, Jew hating bigots here tonight to whom I say "fuck off".
I've posted articles and news coverage from both sides of the argument in an attempt to simply update the latest news on the subject.
But you assholes feel the need to attack the messenger like typical insignificant trolls tend to do.
I've seen dozens of you come and go over the years, none of which could stifle me. :roll:

*WillEase* wrote:Should America Listen to Vladimir Putin?
The New York Times says so. What does history say?

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To Vladimir Putin’s impressive résumé—Russian president, kgb agent, jet fighter pilot, judo champion, shirtless horseman, whale hunter, master of tigers—he can now add New York Times op-ed contributor.

Yes, the one-time top newspaper in America has opened its pages to this one-time officer of the Soviet secret police. With the (now fading) possibility of an American strike on Syria, the Times gave Putin a platform “to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders” (his words)—to plead with us to cool off and forgo an attack.

The Russian president wants to keep Bashar Assad in power. He wants to curb America’s power in the Middle East—and everywhere else—and cement his own. But what a smooth operator he is. He’s presenting himself as the cool-headed statesman. In offering up a sham proposal to help secure Syria’s chemical weapons, he throws a lifeline to Assad—and causes shallow people with no memory nor understanding of human nature to clap their hands with joy.

Putin knows Americans don’t support military intervention. He is playing on the nation’s war-weariness. In his Times article he waxes grandiloquent: Like it or not, we must uphold international law; we must stop resorting to force; we need civilized diplomatic and political settlement and so on. These are bold statements from the man who invaded Georgia just five years ago (without UN permission). The man who has ordered the elimination of tens of thousands of Chechens. The man who has openly supported Iran despite its sponsoring terrorism. The man whose backing of the Syrian regime, in fact, is a major reason Assad has been so willing to slaughter his opposition by the thousands. Don’t be hasty to use force, he tells America. And the New York Times considers his advice sage and fit to print.

Putin also took a sanctimonious shot at President Obama referring to America as “exceptional”: “It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.” Yes, that’s another quote from Vladimir Putin. In the New York Times.

Apparently the Times editors agree that America is unexceptional. For that matter, even Barack Obama said as much on his first trip abroad as president: Asked if he believed in American exceptionalism, he said he believed in it in the same way that Brits believe in British exceptionalism, and Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism. America’s about as “exceptional” as every other nation in the world, it appears. This passes for enlightened thought today.

I wonder what Alexander Solzhenitsyn would think.

I’ve been reading The Gulag Archipelago this week—Solzhenitsyn’s voluminous record of the horrors of the Russian prison system, a book that helped bring down the Soviet empire. And I wonder what this man, who was trapped in the gulags for 11 years, would think of the New York Times knowingly serving as propaganda organ for a kgb officer.

The Gulag Archipelago exposes you to the realities of the world that spawned the kgb—and the system that shaped the current president of Russia, who is now humiliating America’s president and propagandizing the intellectually addled American public. (It was published in the U.S. in 1973, just a year or two before Putin joined the Soviet police.) This book makes me appreciate just how exceptional America truly is in the context of history—a history in which the vast majority of people have had an experience closer to the nightmares Solzhenitsyn suffered than to the freedoms Americans have enjoyed for over two and a quarter centuries now.

For decades, Russian citizens lived in constant fear that their own government would arbitrarily arrest and imprison them for “crimes” of which they weren’t even aware. Police extracted confessions using countless forms of psychological and physical torture. “Thus it was that the conclusions of advanced Soviet jurisprudence, proceeding in a spiral, returned to barbaric or medieval standards,” Solzhenitsyn wrote. “Like medieval torturers, our interrogators, prosecutors and judges agreed to accept the confession of the accused as the chief proof of guilt” (emphasis added throughout). No corroborating evidence needed.

What a blessing is the Fifth Amendment in protecting Americans from such abuses! It guarantees: “nor shall [any person] be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.” No American can afford to take for granted how wonderful it is not to be subject to the injustice and torment that were forced on the people of Soviet Russia.

Solzhenitsyn described how the Soviet police arrested people without even explaining their alleged offense, and conducted intimidating and coercive interrogations aimed at keeping the accused in total ignorance of the law. “It seems a virtual fairy tale that somewhere, at the ends of the earth, an accused person can avail himself of a lawyer’s help,” he wrote wistfully. “This means having beside you in the most difficult moment of your life a clear-minded ally who knows the law.” That “somewhere” is at this end of the earth: America. What a blessing to have such protection against abusive authorities robbing citizens of their legal rights.

To those who know nothing about the depths to which people in power can descend, these rights seem very cheap. But the man deprived of them—the man rotting away in a Russian gulag, for instance—recognizes their value—and how exceptional is the nation that upholds them!

So much of history trumpets the lesson that unchecked power can unleash unchecked evil. That an unrestrained human heart given power and authority is capable of unspeakable depravity.

America’s founders had a firm, personal understanding of the abuses they wanted to protect people from. In crafting America’s judiciary and other branches of government, at every turn they put checks on officials and constrained their intrusion into citizens’ private lives. At every turn they empowered the individual, creating an environment of personal liberty. The society that resulted was historically unique. To an unprecedented degree and on an unprecedented scale, people were free to own personal property, free from unwarranted search and seizure, free from being subject to the whims of a dictator, free to enjoy the fruits of hard work, free to pursue their dreams within a free economic market.

It was something extremely unusual—altogether exceptional—in human history.

Today, these liberties are being eroded by government officials who see nothing exceptional about them. These powerful men and women view the United States Constitution with contempt. Mr. Obama has disparaged it as being “a charter of negative liberties”—as if such an oxymoron could exist. These intellectuals—influenced by the same poisonous Marxist thought that upended Russian politics, and that Solzhenitsyn spent his life fighting—dislike the fact that the Constitution limits government and safeguards the people’s freedoms. And so they belittle it, sidestep it, ignore it. And they pompously, ignorantly speak of how there is nothing exceptional about the nation it protects.

Then, they offer space in their esteemed paper to the Russian president, whose worldview is one of contempt for what truly has made America exceptional—and who believes the government has every right to silence the press, stamp out dissent, punish political enemies, and exert absolute authority over the people.

Solzhenitsyn quotes a Russian proverb: “Dwell on the past and you’ll lose an eye; forget the past and you’ll lose both eyes.” Americans today, having forgotten even the very recent past, are ignorantly discarding the freedoms that our wise founders devoted their lives to establish. With mystifying exuberance, they are embracing some of the very principles that led to the disaster of communism.

And today they congratulate themselves for being “open-minded” enough to embrace the criticisms of the American way of life penned by a KGB agent.
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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 7:21 am » by Opalserpent


LOLZ, sorry to flame you Willease. LOLZ.

Got to love the freedom of speech we have. Have a nice day man. LOLZ.

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Still, this website caters for alternative views to mainstream news reality. :cheers:
And we can both enjoy a good argument though I haven't had many recently anymore. :cry:
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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 7:42 am » by Temps13


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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 8:55 am » by Opalserpent


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You bring up a good point Temps, though the oil is also an important factor.

Check out what I found, looks like my Super Hero Putin is making the
rothschilds bankers very uncomfortable in Russia: :look:


http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/03/23 ... es-to-u-k/

Putin’s Purge Of The Rothschild Money Changers From Russia: Another Rothschild Goon Found Dead & Another Flees To U.K.


WHEN PUTIN WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT of Russia in 2000, Russia was bankrupt. The nation owed $16.6 billion to the Rothschild-run International Monetary Fund while its foreign debt to the Rothschild-controlled Paris & London Club Of Creditors was over 36 billion dollars.



By 2006 Putin had paid off Russia’s debt to the Rothschilds. Russia’s financial dependence on the Mafia financiers was now over. Putin could then establish what became his Russian Unity Party’s campaign slogan:Putin’s Plan Means Victory For Russia! This slogan continues to make the New World Order Bankers very nervous… 2007 ~ Political Vel Craft


Check out the link, there's more links showing how Putin is making these globalists bankers
lives difficult.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/03/23 ... es-to-u-k/ :banana:


PUTIN can't get any higher on my hero list. :sunny:

Get those bankers PUTIN!!!!


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Do the world a favor Mr Putin, you know you want to. :hugging:

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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 10:16 am » by Akashicrebel


handy4321 wrote:I will go ahead and say what many here think but will not say. You make it so blatantly obvious that you are directly or indirectly employed by and alphabet agency. The gig is up agent, crawl back into a dark corner with your masters. :lol: :peep:

Sorry people and DiscloseTV, I just could not take it any longer!



right now, this forum is well balanced. before, when the "hasbara" office thought there blatant propaganda method can work here- it was quite like you said, some people couldn't take it anymore. But the "hasbara" agents are not here anymore, thanks to mod Marduk I think, and also even there bosses could see that the damage they where doing to Israel was greater then anything they actually could achieve.(many members could see how Israel really playing thanks to them). I consider it to be an important lesson.
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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 10:27 am » by Temps13


Yeah,thats great Opal,haha,I admire Putin myself in a lot of ways..& Ahmadinejad..
Killing bankers lol..sending pussy riot to a gulag & poisoning a traitor with Pollonium :lol:
Yeah of course its the oil & the pipeline too,the stance on GM foods & all the rest..
Plus the fact they want to check Syria off their list & isolate iran & just..well,control the middle east totally,so they're in a stronger position against Russia & China.
They aren't gonna let anything stop them from doing this,whatever it takes.
I'm patriotic as far as the Israeli people (the ones that are against stealing Palestinian's lands anyway),I love the american people,British etc..but NOT THE GOVERNMENTS -they are criminals!
I see it as we are all one race-the human race! Nationalism is a disease!
Ok,technically we may not be one race but we are in that,imo,we were all primitive workers that were created by a hidden master race..
America has been at war for all of it's existence..they are the aggressors,stealing peoples resources & wealth & forcing their way of life onto others..
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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 10:55 am » by RATRODROB


Opalserpent wrote:
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You bring up a good point Temps, though the oil is also an important factor.

Check out what I found, looks like my Super Hero Putin is making the
rothschilds bankers very uncomfortable in Russia: :look:


http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/03/23 ... es-to-u-k/

Putin’s Purge Of The Rothschild Money Changers From Russia: Another Rothschild Goon Found Dead & Another Flees To U.K.


WHEN PUTIN WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT of Russia in 2000, Russia was bankrupt. The nation owed $16.6 billion to the Rothschild-run International Monetary Fund while its foreign debt to the Rothschild-controlled Paris & London Club Of Creditors was over 36 billion dollars.



By 2006 Putin had paid off Russia’s debt to the Rothschilds. Russia’s financial dependence on the Mafia financiers was now over. Putin could then establish what became his Russian Unity Party’s campaign slogan:Putin’s Plan Means Victory For Russia! This slogan continues to make the New World Order Bankers very nervous… 2007 ~ Political Vel Craft


Check out the link, there's more links showing how Putin is making these globalists bankers
lives difficult.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/03/23 ... es-to-u-k/ :banana:


PUTIN can't get any higher on my hero list. :sunny:

Get those bankers PUTIN!!!!


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Do the world a favor Mr Putin, you know you want to. :hugging:

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as far as the Wrathchild central banks go, 4 down , 4 to go, and your right OPAL, oil is a big part, and who doesn't want to see the bankers go for a tumble, but Putin is no angel and cant be trusted in the long run by the likes of you and me.

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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 11:25 am » by Opalserpent


I agree, the disclose forum has a good balance now.

Nothing is going to stop the Wesley Clark doctrine rape train from occurring.

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I dissagree RatrodRob, he can be trusted more so then any elite satanist that
thinks of us the people as useless eaters.

The fact that Putin already postponed WW3 should win him a nobel peace prize.

No offense man but why can't we trust Putin. It's okay, I know you

read mainstream media, Who cares if he's x KGB, you have to understand

how evil works and he understands it well enough to hold the most powerful

banker owned military force in the world at bay from commiting more war crimes.

Cmon RatRod, how is Iraq going? Libya? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Yemen?

were is Putin?

Once again, what has Putin done to deserve this distrust you speak off?

How can we trust our leaders that support perpetual war and debt enslavement

and weed prohibition?



Hey RatRodRob, remember when those israeli's a couple years ago were running
around with Australian passports murdering people under our name?

I suppose you think we can trust those israeli tennis playing assassins with

Australian passports more then Putin?


I only see mossad crawlng all over our shores, not KGB man.

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PostMon Sep 16, 2013 11:56 am » by RATRODROB


Opalserpent wrote:I agree, the disclose forum has a good balance now.

Nothing is going to stop the Wesley Clark doctrine rape train from occurring.

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I dissagree RatrodRob, he can be trusted more so then any elite satanist that
thinks of us the people as useless eaters.

The fact that Putin already postponed WW3 should win him a nobel peace prize.

No offense man but why can't we trust Putin. It's okay, I know you

read mainstream media, Who cares if he's x KGB, you have to understand

how evil works and he understands it well enough to hold the most powerful

banker owned military force in the world at bay from commiting more war crimes.

Cmon RatRod, how is Iraq going? Libya? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Yemen?

were is Putin?

Once again, what has Putin done to deserve this distrust you speak off?

How can we trust our leaders that support perpetual war and debt enslavement

and weed prohibition?



Hey RatRodRob, remember when those israeli's a couple years ago were running
around with Australian passports murdering people under our name?

I suppose you think we can trust those israeli tennis playing assassins with

Australian passports more then Putin?


I only see mossad crawlng all over our shores, not KGB man.

:cheers:




Thanks for your reply, I would rather you tell me straight how you see stuff, so its ok to tell me your differences.
In a quickie, Putin has been responsible for bad shit, he looks like the good guy now and I accept that, but its not Putin's time right now, if he would benefit better by letting things get all pear shaped, then he would be just as tyrannical as the rest, just alittle more cunning and not out there like Obama etc.

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