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PostWed Feb 06, 2013 9:32 pm » by One-23


we petition the obama administration to:
Commission an open, non-military, scientific study to collect and study evidence of the UAP/UFO phenomenon.

A truly scientific study of the UFO/UAP phenomenon has never really been performed. The emphasis has always been upon the impact on the military causing the study to be obviously biased. The time has come for a serious scientific inquiry with open information sharing allowing access for anyone interested in analysis.
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PostWed Feb 06, 2013 9:35 pm » by ZetaRediculous


One-23 wrote:
we petition the obama administration to:
Commission an open, non-military, scientific study to collect and study evidence of the UAP/UFO phenomenon.

A truly scientific study of the UFO/UAP phenomenon has never really been performed. The emphasis has always been upon the impact on the military causing the study to be obviously biased. The time has come for a serious scientific inquiry with open information sharing allowing access for anyone interested in analysis.
Created: Feb 06, 2013


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... n/sv6pXXqd


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Never gonna happen!!

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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 1:07 am » by Doogle


I can't get my head around this stuff.
Why the fuck do people crave disclosure from a group of people that they/we don't trust in the first place?

"Ooooooh, ooookkkkaaaayyy, you're telling the truth now?"

Do people think that if some sort of official disclosure happened that it would be from a miraculously, over-night, re-formed bunch of previously natural born liars. What the ferk?

If it happens, an official disclosure of other intelligences being present here and now, then the panic buttons in this house would be being pushed without hesitation. It would stink to high heaven.
It would have to come from a non-official beginning that, OK maybe, officialdom would have to come out and admit it because of otherwise overwhelming evidence from completely overt events.

But otherwise, why? Why would people suddenly see the Gubmints as true purveyors of transparency?

Don't get it.
Which is why I think I'd prefer it didn't happen.

Besides, I don't need anyone to disclose shit to me. I already got my ass disclosed on.


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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 5:13 am » by Cia212


Doogle wrote:I can't get my head around this stuff.
Why the fuck do people crave disclosure from a group of people that they/we don't trust in the first place?

"Ooooooh, ooookkkkaaaayyy, you're telling the truth now?"

I think people want disclosure if it means they get to meet aliens and have cool new technology. If the disclosure is that we are alone, and no aliens visit, and no advanced technology exists - then they'll still consider it a lie.

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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 7:50 am » by Iwanci


I disagree with the sentiments... disclosure IS needed... but it is not needed by some to finally have the proof they were seaking, I mean, if you havent seen a UFO by now (like me), then someone telling you they do exist is akin to me telling you how nice that candy bar is, it wont truly hit you until you have tried, or experienced it.

And, you are right, why would we trust the same people who hid the truth from us in the first place?

Why?

Because this is the natire of things and often, even though we know something to be true, we need to hear it from 'officialdom'... this then validates everyone who has suffered from its non disclosure and turns the balance and indeed the direction of the subject in a completely new direction.

When people are finally told that it is perfectly NORMAL to bekieve in UFO's because they do actually exist, all the evidence will be disclosed and the way we live from then on will change exponentially.

For example... we all know the story of jesus right? Many believe, many do not, some have changed their minds various times through their lives.... and the proponents of this belief (primarily the christian based religions) have been involved in some of the worst crimes against humanity in the name of this belief... So why trust them going forward? However, how would our lives change if all of a sudden we found out that the story of jesus was actually TRUE... how would that change people's lives? I think it would have a profound influence on the way we see life and the way we live it...

The disclosure of UFO's and aliens will have the same life changing impacts on the populace, until disclousre it will always be seen as conjecture, imagination, plausible but not quite right....

Definitive answers bring with them definitive decisions and definitive direction....


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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 8:31 am » by I2haveseen


Iwanci wrote:I disagree with the sentiments... disclosure IS needed... but it is not needed by some to finally have the proof they were seaking, I mean, if you havent seen a UFO by now (like me), then someone telling you they do exist is akin to me telling you how nice that candy bar is, it wont truly hit you until you have tried, or experienced it.

And, you are right, why would we trust the same people who hid the truth from us in the first place?

Why?

Because this is the natire of things and often, even though we know something to be true, we need to hear it from 'officialdom'... this then validates everyone who has suffered from its non disclosure and turns the balance and indeed the direction of the subject in a completely new direction.

When people are finally told that it is perfectly NORMAL to bekieve in UFO's because they do actually exist, all the evidence will be disclosed and the way we live from then on will change exponentially.

For example... we all know the story of jesus right? Many believe, many do not, some have changed their minds various times through their lives.... and the proponents of this belief (primarily the christian based religions) have been involved in some of the worst crimes against humanity in the name of this belief... So why trust them going forward? However, how would our lives change if all of a sudden we found out that the story of jesus was actually TRUE... how would that change people's lives? I think it would have a profound influence on the way we see life and the way we live it...

The disclosure of UFO's and aliens will have the same life changing impacts on the populace, until disclousre it will always be seen as conjecture, imagination, plausible but not quite right....

Definitive answers bring with them definitive decisions and definitive direction....


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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 9:04 am » by I2haveseen


Fair nuff :flop:
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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 9:04 am » by Iwanci


I2 you may ask... but I reserve the right to not reply.... :mrgreen:

Why do you ask grasshopper?

(My question may give you a hint)....
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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 10:19 am » by I2haveseen


Iwanci wrote:I2 you may ask... but I reserve the right to not reply.... :mrgreen:

Why do you ask grasshopper?

(My question may give you a hint)....


lol well let's just say I'm curious is all. Say, don't say... Is all good :cheers:
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PostThu Feb 07, 2013 11:19 pm » by Iwanci


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