New Hurricane Will Require Gulf Evacuation
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Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:22 am » by Bluejeff1954
boondox681, i live over in the next county west of you conecuh and yes i have sat thru a few hurricanes in my time, and yes we sit them out. ivan was only about 15 miles west of me when it went thru back in 2004. was married at the time and was sleeping good when at about 3:15am the wife could not stand it anymore and just had to wake me up. man was she tripping when i started quoting mick jagger "i was born in a crossfire hurricane..."
Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:07 am » by Megame23
Thanks for sharing with us lowsix.
I can't imagine the inner conflicts a photographer has in a situation like that... The desire to help by showing people, the desire to let people have their peace, the desire to help, and who knows what other feelings, all battling within.
And I agree with sock, sometimes the universe just needs a witness. Thanks for the photos and stories.
I can't imagine the inner conflicts a photographer has in a situation like that... The desire to help by showing people, the desire to let people have their peace, the desire to help, and who knows what other feelings, all battling within.
And I agree with sock, sometimes the universe just needs a witness. Thanks for the photos and stories.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~Edmund Burke
Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:31 am » by Ktm640
hurricane yea right, its a rain storm. hey sheep you cant see yourself in the mirror unless they tell you they can see it. how numb can people get. hurricane, they tell me I know it is fact. wow all I can say is wow. and I share the road with people who believe this stuff. scary
Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:39 am » by Megame23
ktm640 wrote:hurricane yea right, its a rain storm. hey sheep you cant see yourself in the mirror unless they tell you they can see it. how numb can people get. hurricane, they tell me I know it is fact. wow all I can say is wow. and I share the road with people who believe this stuff. scary
You have no right to call people sheep.Clearly you are missing the point that a large storm in the gulf right now could whip up a bunch of oil onto the land, which would be very bad. A large storm is forming now, it could always get worse. Even if this is the one to do it, a hurricane in the gulf, that is able to go far into the land, is going to wreck us.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~Edmund Burke
Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:04 pm » by Megame23
I found this on the RsOE EDIS, right in front of the coast where the storm is supposed to hit.
NESDIS Anomaly RS2
Generated: 2010-07-12T15:10:15Z Data Observed At: 2010-07-07T00:00:00Z
Using high resolution satellites from NOAA's partners in Earth observations, NESDIS scientists are able to track the location of the oil plume as it is circulated throughout the Gulf due to changing wind and currents. Satellites providing data for these analyses include the MODIS sensor on NASA's Aqua and Terra, Canadian Space Agency's RADARSAT-2 SAR, Satellite Imaging Corporation's SPOT-5, and the SAR sensor on European Space Agency's ENVISAT.
The outline of oil is based on an experimental pilot product and should be used with caution.
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php
The storm could whip up onto the land not only the oil, but whatever this shit is.
NESDIS Anomaly RS2
Generated: 2010-07-12T15:10:15Z Data Observed At: 2010-07-07T00:00:00Z
Using high resolution satellites from NOAA's partners in Earth observations, NESDIS scientists are able to track the location of the oil plume as it is circulated throughout the Gulf due to changing wind and currents. Satellites providing data for these analyses include the MODIS sensor on NASA's Aqua and Terra, Canadian Space Agency's RADARSAT-2 SAR, Satellite Imaging Corporation's SPOT-5, and the SAR sensor on European Space Agency's ENVISAT.
The outline of oil is based on an experimental pilot product and should be used with caution.
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php
The storm could whip up onto the land not only the oil, but whatever this shit is.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~Edmund Burke
Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:37 pm » by Megame23
Then there is also the toxic dispersants that BP has been using.:
Gulf Spill Cleanup Chemicals May Cause New Environmental Concerns
On Thursday BP began using the chemical compounds to dissolve the crude oil, both on the surface and deep below, deploying an estimated 100,000 gallons
By Abrahm Lustgarten and ProPublica
The chemicals BP is now relying on to break up the steady flow of leaking oil from deep below the Gulf of Mexico could create a new set of environmental problems.
Even if the materials, called dispersants, are effective, BP has already bought up more than a third of the world’s supply. If the leak from 5,000 feet beneath the surface continues for weeks, or months, that stockpile could run out.
On Thursday BP began using the chemical compounds to dissolve the crude oil, both on the surface and deep below, deploying an estimated 100,000 gallons. Dispersing the oil is considered one of the best ways to protect birds and keep the slick from making landfall. But the dispersants contain harmful toxins of their own and can concentrate leftover oil toxins in the water, where they can kill fish and migrate great distances.The exact makeup of the dispersants is kept secret under competitive trade laws, but a worker safety sheet for one product, called Corexit, says it includes 2-butoxyethanol, a compound associated with headaches, vomiting and reproductive problems at high doses.
“There is a chemical toxicity to the dispersant compound that in many ways is worse than oil,” said Richard Charter, a foremost expert on marine biology and oil spills who is a senior policy advisor for Marine Programs for Defenders of Wildlife and is chairman of the Gulf of the Farallones National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Council. “It’s a trade off – you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t -- of trying to minimize the damage coming to shore, but in so doing you may be more seriously damaging the ecosystem offshore.”
BP did not respond to requests for comment for this article.
Dispersants are mixtures of solvents, surfactants and other additives that break up the surface tension of an oil slick and make oil more soluble in water, according to a paper published by the National Academy of Sciences. They are spread over or in the water in very low concentration – a single gallon may cover several acres.
Once they are dispersed, the tiny droplets of oil are more likely to sink or remain suspended in deep water rather than floating to the surface and collecting in a continuous slick. Dispersed oil can spread quickly in three directions instead of two and is more easily dissipated by waves and turbulence that break it up further and help many of its most toxic hydrocarbons evaporate.
But the dispersed oil can also collect on the seabed, where it becomes food for microscopic organisms at the bottom of the food chain and eventually winds up in shellfish and other organisms. The evaporation process can also concentrate the toxic compounds left behind, particularly oil-derived compounds called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs.
Studies if oil dispersal have found that the chemicals used can accumulate in shellfish and other organisms.
According to a 2005 National Academy of Sciences report, the dispersants and the oil they leave behind can kill fish eggs. A study of oil dispersal in Coos Bay, Ore. found that PAH accumulated in mussels, the Academy’s paper noted. Another study examining fish health after the Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska in 1989 found that PAHs affected the developing hearts of Pacific herring and pink salmon embryos. The research suggests the dispersal of the oil that’s leaking in the Gulf could affect the seafood industry there.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -chemicals
Gulf Spill Cleanup Chemicals May Cause New Environmental Concerns
On Thursday BP began using the chemical compounds to dissolve the crude oil, both on the surface and deep below, deploying an estimated 100,000 gallons
By Abrahm Lustgarten and ProPublica
The chemicals BP is now relying on to break up the steady flow of leaking oil from deep below the Gulf of Mexico could create a new set of environmental problems.
Even if the materials, called dispersants, are effective, BP has already bought up more than a third of the world’s supply. If the leak from 5,000 feet beneath the surface continues for weeks, or months, that stockpile could run out.
On Thursday BP began using the chemical compounds to dissolve the crude oil, both on the surface and deep below, deploying an estimated 100,000 gallons. Dispersing the oil is considered one of the best ways to protect birds and keep the slick from making landfall. But the dispersants contain harmful toxins of their own and can concentrate leftover oil toxins in the water, where they can kill fish and migrate great distances.The exact makeup of the dispersants is kept secret under competitive trade laws, but a worker safety sheet for one product, called Corexit, says it includes 2-butoxyethanol, a compound associated with headaches, vomiting and reproductive problems at high doses.
“There is a chemical toxicity to the dispersant compound that in many ways is worse than oil,” said Richard Charter, a foremost expert on marine biology and oil spills who is a senior policy advisor for Marine Programs for Defenders of Wildlife and is chairman of the Gulf of the Farallones National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Council. “It’s a trade off – you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t -- of trying to minimize the damage coming to shore, but in so doing you may be more seriously damaging the ecosystem offshore.”
BP did not respond to requests for comment for this article.
Dispersants are mixtures of solvents, surfactants and other additives that break up the surface tension of an oil slick and make oil more soluble in water, according to a paper published by the National Academy of Sciences. They are spread over or in the water in very low concentration – a single gallon may cover several acres.
Once they are dispersed, the tiny droplets of oil are more likely to sink or remain suspended in deep water rather than floating to the surface and collecting in a continuous slick. Dispersed oil can spread quickly in three directions instead of two and is more easily dissipated by waves and turbulence that break it up further and help many of its most toxic hydrocarbons evaporate.
But the dispersed oil can also collect on the seabed, where it becomes food for microscopic organisms at the bottom of the food chain and eventually winds up in shellfish and other organisms. The evaporation process can also concentrate the toxic compounds left behind, particularly oil-derived compounds called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs.
Studies if oil dispersal have found that the chemicals used can accumulate in shellfish and other organisms.
According to a 2005 National Academy of Sciences report, the dispersants and the oil they leave behind can kill fish eggs. A study of oil dispersal in Coos Bay, Ore. found that PAH accumulated in mussels, the Academy’s paper noted. Another study examining fish health after the Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska in 1989 found that PAHs affected the developing hearts of Pacific herring and pink salmon embryos. The research suggests the dispersal of the oil that’s leaking in the Gulf could affect the seafood industry there.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -chemicals
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~Edmund Burke
Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:27 pm » by Megame23
naught wrote:Took this off transoceans website
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/site/2931/
LEARN MORE
Hurricanes and the Oil Spill
What will the hurricane do to the oil slick in the Gulf?• The high winds and seas will mix and “weather” the oil which can help accelerate the biodegradation process.• Movement of oil would depend greatly on the track of the hurricane.]]>top: 360px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">• Storms’ surges may carry oil into the coastline and inland as far as the surge reaches. Debris resulting from the hurricane may be contaminated by oil from the Deepwater Horizon incident, but also from other oil releases that may occur during the storm.
What will the hurricane do to the oil slick in the Gulf?
• The high winds and seas will mix and “weather” the oil which can help accelerate the biodegradation process.
• The high winds may distribute oil over a wider area, but it is difficult to model exactly where the oil may be transported.
• Movement of oil would depend greatly on the track of the hurricane.
• Storms’ surges may carry oil into the coastline and inland as far as the surge reaches. Debris resulting from the hurricane may be contaminated by oil from the Deepwater Horizon incident, but also from other oil releases that may occur during the storm.
FROM BP!!!!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~Edmund Burke
Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:43 am » by Grebbear
...
Are YOU prepared ???
Hurricane Earl is big trouble, and Fiona, whether (pun intended) as a supporting roll (pushing Earl into the Gulf),
... or, as a Devil (Ogress?), with a blue dress on (Shrek the third).
BIG Trouble is here, NOW !!
The Atlantic turbine has been purposely destroyed.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil15.htm
Which means a Hurricane could potentially stall in the Gulf, like the red eye storm on Jupiter !! Yes, a long standing (is anything permanent ??) Hurricane sized Storm in the Gulf, sucking up all the shit (dispersant) and Oil ... Making the entire Gulf toxic and uninhabitable (among other things).
Already, WE have these kinds of implications ...
"The Gulf of Mexico from the Source into the shore is a giant kill zone."
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil14.htm
... and Obama says, "the seafood is safe to eat" ??
Which makes him an accessory to commit MURDER.
"THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil08.htm#Part_II_
"The Gulf Oil Disaster A Criminal Act"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil12.htm
This isn't """THEORY""" this is happening NOW !!
How will the 'stock markets' react ??
Well 'they' are already prepared to tank, without 'Un-Natural' (pun intended ... U.N.) help.
http://mindonmoney.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/correlation-curse/
and
http://72.52.163.140/week.htm ... this link is George Ure, from the web bots
... look out below.
So ... it may sound 'crazy' but ... "IT IS" the world WE live in.
No FEAR !!
... does not mean, put OUR heads in the sand
(ie. listening and watching (and believing) the teevee, radio, newspaper)
... nor, believing 'someone else' will make OUR problems 'go away'
(G.overnment, M.ilitary, F.EMA, Town Council, neighbors, family),
OUR 'problems' ... are OUR challenges.
If OUR challenges are too big for US,
WE must ask for help, with honesty and Love.
No FEAR, means facing adversity !!
(No more systems of dis-Harmony, [ie] G/M/F/TC)
... with the knowledge WE are not alone !!
WE are in this together !!
WE are brothers and sisters of Divine Love.
WE are ALIVE !!
... and OUR lives are meaningful !!
I Believe in YOU
Get prepared !!
... its like cleaning the house; but, instead of preparing for a visit from OUR parents, in-laws, new lover ... WE need to prepare for the biggest injection of FEAR, humanity has ever faced. Eliminate its avenues of control ... have food storage & food growth (seeds and south facing indoor garden), prepare for no electricity (water & heat). Whatever scares you, prepare for,
eliminate room for FEAR to grow, to live, to be.
Then stand Y-OUR ground with LOVE, overflowing from Y-OUR heart.
November 8th ... is the due date, but many 'labor' pains will manifest between now and then ... and after Nov. 8, much work will need to be done to restore what little Harmony WE experience in the world NOW ... and after that, the storm will clear, and a "new day" will dawn ))
I Love YOU ALL
a GrebBear
Peace Love Light Truth
(- ;
; -)
ps ... if you're into synchronicity, this is a must see:
http://www.synchromysticismforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1755&start=20
Are YOU prepared ???
Hurricane Earl is big trouble, and Fiona, whether (pun intended) as a supporting roll (pushing Earl into the Gulf),
... or, as a Devil (Ogress?), with a blue dress on (Shrek the third).
BIG Trouble is here, NOW !!
The Atlantic turbine has been purposely destroyed.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil15.htm
Which means a Hurricane could potentially stall in the Gulf, like the red eye storm on Jupiter !! Yes, a long standing (is anything permanent ??) Hurricane sized Storm in the Gulf, sucking up all the shit (dispersant) and Oil ... Making the entire Gulf toxic and uninhabitable (among other things).
Already, WE have these kinds of implications ...
"The Gulf of Mexico from the Source into the shore is a giant kill zone."
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil14.htm
... and Obama says, "the seafood is safe to eat" ??
Which makes him an accessory to commit MURDER.
"THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil08.htm#Part_II_
"The Gulf Oil Disaster A Criminal Act"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryoil12.htm
This isn't """THEORY""" this is happening NOW !!
How will the 'stock markets' react ??
Well 'they' are already prepared to tank, without 'Un-Natural' (pun intended ... U.N.) help.
http://mindonmoney.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/correlation-curse/
and
http://72.52.163.140/week.htm ... this link is George Ure, from the web bots
... look out below.
So ... it may sound 'crazy' but ... "IT IS" the world WE live in.
No FEAR !!
... does not mean, put OUR heads in the sand
(ie. listening and watching (and believing) the teevee, radio, newspaper)
... nor, believing 'someone else' will make OUR problems 'go away'
(G.overnment, M.ilitary, F.EMA, Town Council, neighbors, family),
OUR 'problems' ... are OUR challenges.
If OUR challenges are too big for US,
WE must ask for help, with honesty and Love.
No FEAR, means facing adversity !!
(No more systems of dis-Harmony, [ie] G/M/F/TC)
... with the knowledge WE are not alone !!
WE are in this together !!
WE are brothers and sisters of Divine Love.
WE are ALIVE !!
... and OUR lives are meaningful !!
I Believe in YOU
Get prepared !!
... its like cleaning the house; but, instead of preparing for a visit from OUR parents, in-laws, new lover ... WE need to prepare for the biggest injection of FEAR, humanity has ever faced. Eliminate its avenues of control ... have food storage & food growth (seeds and south facing indoor garden), prepare for no electricity (water & heat). Whatever scares you, prepare for,
eliminate room for FEAR to grow, to live, to be.
Then stand Y-OUR ground with LOVE, overflowing from Y-OUR heart.
November 8th ... is the due date, but many 'labor' pains will manifest between now and then ... and after Nov. 8, much work will need to be done to restore what little Harmony WE experience in the world NOW ... and after that, the storm will clear, and a "new day" will dawn ))
I Love YOU ALL
a GrebBear
Peace Love Light Truth
(- ;
; -)
ps ... if you're into synchronicity, this is a must see:
http://www.synchromysticismforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1755&start=20
<<< See without Looking >>>
Big Love,
a GrebBear
Peace Love Light Truth
(- ;
; -)
Big Love,
a GrebBear
Peace Love Light Truth
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; -)
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