New Pope is accused of kidnapping babies and Jesuits

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Guys, I "googlelated" this text from this: Novo Papa é acusado de sequestrar bebês e jesuítas durante ditadura, and am not in the mood of checking if it's too trunkated..sorry about that, but, it seems ok to understand!!

You can also deepen your research >HERE< (in portuguese too), just googlelate...it's worthy info!!!

New Pope is associated with kidnappings of Jesuits and baby during the Argentine dictatorship. Cardinal boasts of friendship with one of the commanders of the military junta in seven years that left 30 people dead, and was called to testify in various processes

Announced today (13) as the new pope in a vote seen as surprising, the Argentine Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio is investigated within their country by collaboration with the dictatorship. In both cases the most famous, is responsible for aid that would have given the kidnapping and torture of two Jesuits and the appropriation of babies, a common practice of the last military regime (1976-83).

The participation of Bergoglio in government responsible for the deaths of 30 million people is ancient and famous, but the clearest signs emerged over the last decade, when, after the overthrow of repressive laws to protect the past, it was possible to initiate trials . The cardinal himself boasted of good relations with the Navy commander Emilio Massera, a member of the first military junta and responsible in 1955 by Juan Perón during topple-called Glorious Revolution - a coup indeed.

It was the Navy that formed the main camp of the scheme started in 1976. The Mechanics School (Esma, its acronym in Spanish) received 5 thousand prisoners, and fewer than 200 of them left alive. The cause Esma is a major initiated in recent years, and developments which have resulted in Bergoglio reached.

In 2010, judges of the Federal Oral Court No. 5 went to the headquarters of the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires taking the deposition of Cardinal, accused of working for the kidnapping and torture of two Jesuits in 1976. At the time, Bergoglio commanded the Society of Jesus in San Miguel, and a number of witnesses to connect the crime.



Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics, the victims of kidnapping, Bergoglio accuse them denounced the NAFTA. In 2011, journalist Horacio Verbistky discovered a document from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship of Argentina confirms that suspicion. At that moment, Jalics, Hungarian, had made an application for renewal of his passport. The report points out that Bergoglio Foreign Ministry said it had "suspicious contact with guerrillas" and "conflicts of obedience." The Jesuit order was denied.

In 2010, the doctor Lorenzo Riquelme, then aged 58, stated that the group that kidnapped and tortured out of the headquarters of the Society of Jesus. Militant Peronist Youth and the Christian movement, Riquelme made the statement based on what was said to his wife, also kidnapped. She worked at the Observatory of Cosmic Physics of San Miguel, now a Peronist stronghold to a place of business of the Navy men infiltrated and controlled by Bergoglio.

Mom Debussy, a Jesuit who had the confidence Bergoglio said that sometimes the cardinal told him about the projects Massera, always showing sympathy for the regime, and that he intended to sell to the Navy Physical Observatory. Debussy said that workers were fired by religious Observatory after returning from torturous.

Another official document, dated 1976, which narrates the religious leader defended the military commanders. He advocated clarify the position of the Catholic Church, support the regime, stating that "in no way intend to formulate a position critical of the government", since a failure "would, very likely, to Marxism."

In 2011, came out the possible participation of Bergoglio in a case of kidnapping of babies, a practice adopted by the regime, which executed several women pregnant or with small children. The Federal Oral Court No. 6 Cardinal summoned to testify in the process of Estela de la Cuadra, a founder of the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo. According Estela, now the pope has relevant information about the disappearance of his niece, Ana, stolen from his mother's arms in a police station of La Plata, a town near Buenos Aires.

In the same year, a French court ruled that the Argentine Judiciary took testimony from Bergoglio suspicion of involvement in the disappearance of a French priest who lived in the Society of Jesus. The testimony of a nun in 1984 already indicated the relationship between the then head of the congregation with the kidnapping that resulted in the deaths of Gabriel Longueville and priest Charles de Dios Murias.

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Pope Francis’ election stirs up Argentine ‘dirty war’ allegations

Michael Warren

BUENOS AIRES — The Associated Press

Published Thursday, Mar. 14 2013, 10:05 AM EDT

Last updated Thursday, Mar. 14 2013, 10:22 AM EDT


Pope Francis is known for his humility, his reluctance to talk about himself. The self-effacement, admirers say, is why he has hardly ever denied one of the harshest allegations against him: That he was among church leaders who actively supported Argentina’s murderous dictatorship.

It’s without dispute that Jose Mario Bergoglio, like most other Argentines, failed to openly confront the 1976-1983 military junta while it was kidnapping and killing thousands of people in a “dirty war” to eliminate leftist opponents.


But the new pope’s authorized biographer, Sergio Rubin, argues that this was a failure of the Roman Catholic Church in general, and that it’s unfair to label Bergoglio with the collective guilt that many Argentines of his generation still deal with.

“In some way many of us Argentines ended up being accomplices,” at a time when anyone who spoke out could be targeted, Rubin recalled in an interview with The Associated Press just before the papal conclave.

Some leading Argentine human rights activists agree that Bergoglio doesn’t deserve to be lumped together with other church figures who were closely aligned with the dictatorship.

“Perhaps he didn’t have the courage of other priests, but he never collaborated with the dictatorship,” Adolfo Perez Esquivel, who won the 1980 Nobel Peace Prize for documenting the junta’s atrocities, said Thursday. “Bergoglio was no accomplice of the dictatorship. He can’t be accused of that,” Perez Esquivel told Radio de la Red in Buenos Aires.

Other activists are angry over the positions Bergoglio, 76, has taken in recent years, as Argentina pursues investigations aimed at exposing those responsible for killing as many as 30,000 people, and finding traces of their victims. Some say he’s been more concerned about preserving the church’s image than providing evidence for Argentina’s many human rights trials.

“There’s hypocrisy here when it comes to the church’s conduct, and with Bergoglio in particular,” said Estela de la Cuadra, whose mother co-founded the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo activist group during the dictatorship to search for missing family members. “There are trials of all kinds now, and Bergoglio systematically refuses to support them.”

Bergoglio twice invoked his right under Argentine law to refuse to appear in open court in trials involving torture and murder inside the feared Navy Mechanics School and the theft of babies from detainees. When he eventually did testify in 2010, his answers were evasive, human rights attorney Myriam Bregman told the AP.

Bergoglio’s own statements proved church officials knew from early on that the junta was torturing and killing its citizens even as the church publicly endorsed the dictators, she said. “The dictatorship could not have operated this way without this key support,” she said.

Rubin, a religious affairs writer for the Argentine newspaper Clarin, said Bergoglio actually took major risks to save so-called “subversives” during the 1976-1983 dictatorship, but never spoke about it publicly before his 2010 biography, “The Jesuit.”

In the book, Bergoglio wrote that he didn’t want to stoop to his critics’ level — and then shared some of his stories. Bergoglio said he once passed his Argentine identity papers to a wanted man with a similar appearance, enabling him to escape over the border to Brazil, and added that many times he sheltered people inside church properties before they were safely delivered into exile.

The most damning accusation against Bergoglio is that as the young leader of Argentina’s Jesuit order, he withdrew his support for two slum priests whose activist colleagues in the liberation theology movement were disappearing. The priests were then kidnapped and tortured at the Navy Mechanics School, which the junta used as a clandestine prison.

Bergoglio said he had told the priests — Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics — to give up their slum work for their own safety, and they refused.

“I warned them to be very careful,” Bergoglio told Rubin. “They were too exposed to the paranoia of the witch hunt. Because they stayed in the barrio, Yorio and Yalics were kidnapped.”

But Yorio later accused Bergoglio of effectively delivering them to the death squads by declining to publicly endorse their work. Yorio is now dead, and Jalics has refused to discuss these events since moving into a German monastery.

Both priests were eventually dropped off blindfolded in a field after a harrowing helicopter ride, two of the few detainees to have survived that prison.

Rubin said Bergoglio only reluctantly told him the rest of the story: that he had gone to extraordinary, behind-the-scenes lengths to save them.

Then in his 30s, the Jesuit leader persuaded the family priest of feared dictator Jorge Videla to call in sick so that he could say Mass instead. Once inside the junta leader’s home, Bergoglio privately appealed for mercy, Rubin wrote.

“Fortunately, a while later they were freed, first because they couldn’t accuse them of anything, and second, because we moved like crazy people. The very night that I learned of their kidnapping, I began moving” to save them, Bergoglio recalled. All this was done in secret, at a time when other church leaders were publicly endorsing the junta and calling on Catholics to restore their “love for country” despite the terror in the streets. And other members of the slum church who were captured along with the priests were never seen again.

“It’s a very sensitive subject,” Rubin told the AP. “The Argentine church was one of the most conservative in Latin America. It showed a good disposition toward the military authorities, who, to make matters worse, considered themselves Christians and called themselves good Catholics.”

Within the church hierarchy at the time, there were about 50 bishops, and most were conservatives. Some were very progressive, and ended up killed. Bergoglio was somewhere in the middle, Rubin suggested.

“There were some who were in it up to their necks,” he said, citing Christian Federico von Wernich, who served as a police chaplain then and is now serving a life sentence for torture and kidnapping.

“There were those who risked it all to openly challenge the junta, and some of those ended up dead,” Rubin added, among them Bishop Enrique Angelelli who was killed in a suspicious traffic accident in 1976 while carrying evidence about two murdered priests.

Rubin says activists closely allied with the government of president Cristina Fernandez have “have tried to insert Bergoglio into some human rights trials, even when he truly shouldn’t be.”

On the other hand, activists say the Argentine church waited far too long to apologize for its human rights failures, and has yet to identify those responsible for many human rights violations that the church was aware of at the time.

Bergoglio was named Buenos Aires cardinal in 2001. But it wasn’t until 2006, after then-President Nestor Kirchner declared an official day of mourning for Angelelli on the 30th anniversary of his death, that Bergoglio called him a “martyr” in the church’s first official recognition that the bishop was murdered.

Under Bergoglio’s leadership, Argentina’s bishops also issued a collective apology in October 2012 for the church’s failures to protect its flock during the dictatorship, but the statement blamed the era’s violence in roughly equal measure on both the junta and its enemies.

“Bergoglio has been very critical of human rights violations during the dictatorship, but he has always also criticized the leftist guerrillas; he doesn’t forget that side,” Rubin said.

Bergoglio also was accused of turning his back on the De la Cuadra family, which lost five relatives to state terror, including Estela’s sister Elena, who was five months’ pregnant before she was kidnapped and killed in 1977.

The family appealed to the leader of the Jesuits in Rome, who urged Bergoglio to help them. Bergoglio then assigned a monsignor to talk with police, who gave them a heartbreaking statement: The woman was a communist, and therefore doomed, but she had given birth in captivity to a girl. That baby, in turn, was given to a family “too important” for the adoption to be reversed.

Despite this evidence in a case he was personally involved with, Bergoglio testified in 2010 that he didn’t know about any stolen babies until well after the dictatorship was over.

“Bergoglio has a very cowardly attitude when it comes to something so terrible as the theft of babies,” Estela de la Cuadra told the AP. “The question is how to save his name, save himself. But he can’t keep these allegations from reaching the public. The people know how he is.”
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The new Pope, a misogynist who believes that man is superior to woman

The appointment of the new pope is the news that occupies front pages of newspapers, minutes of television and space in social networks that have served to promote more positive messages both the faithful and of the worst kind and that unfortunately seem to be true.

If, following the appointment of Benedict XVI came to light its Nazi past, this time have been the words of Pope Francisco which have raised the indignation. And, five years ago few said "women are naturally unfit for political office" as much as it related to the current president of Argentina, Cristina Fernandez, candidate at the time, does not leave anyone cold.

Delving into his words, the new pope, achieving record-breaking title of Im-presentable, said in addition to what has already been said that "the natural order and the facts tell us that the man is a politician par excellence the Scriptures show that women always support thinker and maker of man, but nothing more than that. "No wonder that these statements run like wildfire through Facebook and Twitter causing contempt of anyone who reads it.

It is inconceivable that in the XXI century and the strong religious crisis living Christianity obceque to keep on top of the hierarchy to a character outdated ideas that still have not heard it for over 50 years and there was a sexual revolution men we went a little common sense to learn that women, at least, are equal to men.

Taken from this, Originally in Spanish: LINK



Where it is written:

"Women are naturally inept for political office" "The natural order and the facts tell us that the man is a politician par excellence, the Scriptures show us that women always support thinker and maker of man, but nothing more than that"

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I bet Messi is sainted before long: Saint Lionel Messi.

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So the peaceful looking new Pope has a few corpses hidden in the wardrobe.

I'm shocked, ya hear me?

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I bet Messi is sainted before long: Saint Lionel Messi.

LOL!

Maradona said around here, that "Football's "god" is already Argentinian's, now, the Pope is Argentinian's too"

Pff, he prolly consider himself Football's god cos he earned Argentine a World Cup by making a Goal with his hand!!!

Good seein ya again, mate

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Maradona said around here, that "Football's "god" is already Argentinian's, now, the Pope is Argentinian's too"

Pff, he prolly consider himself Football's god cos he earned Argentine a World Cup by making a Goal with his hand!!!

Good seein ya again, mate[/color][/b]

Nice to see you mate.

I'm surprised fat boy, Diego, isn't in Rome trying to get a his sins erased.....